Scarborough may have unintentionally spilled some beans on MSNBC this AM

[blm]

If you were watching MSNBC this AM, Scarborough was on and talking about Bush's speech.

He made a comment about how Republicans had been losing ground with black voters and that after getting 10% of the black vote in 2000, Bush only got 8% in 2004.

MY EARS SHOT UP IMMEDIATELY.

The GOP and their corporate media have been claiming that Bush INCREASED his numbers of black votes to 11% in 2004. And they said they did it through the unusually high black vote for Bush in OHIO.

What I am thinking is that Scarborough has seen the ACTUAL internals they use to develop their strategies.

And he accidentally told the truth this morning. Black vote for Bush was 8%

[TwilightZone]

1. I think it's more likely that he doesn't have a clue and made the number

up on the spot. He's not exactly well known for his accuracy or his love of research.

[jobycom]

3. That's what I would say, too. He's a Repub, when has one of them

ever gotten a fact right? And what Rove operative in their right mind would show Scarborough any secret info, anyway? The man is as smart as tennis shoe, and at any time could wind up implicated in another murder, and then he would have secret info to hold over BushCo's head. They wouldn't tell him anything.

[The Doctor.]

16. What was her name again?

I've often thought of having someone call him;

*Ring... Ring*

"Hello, this is Joe Scarborough."

Distant ghostly voice; "joe... joe... where are you? my head hurts... it's dark here... joe? joe... where are you?"

Just need a girl that sounds like she did.

Every month or so would do him good.

[jobycom]

28. Lauri Klausutas, but

there's no gaurantee Scarborough killed her. All we know for sure is that he obstructed anyinvestigation into her death, got a medical examiner to lie at the scene of the crime, and fed false information to the press, so that is she was murdered, Scarborough made sure the murderer went free.

Or it could have been someone he hired...

[Melodybe]

26. than again how many black republicans do you know?

10% is way too high.

[jobycom]

27. You gotta figure that after they

double punch ballots in the black districts, turn people away at roadblocks, move polling stations... Maybe they can get the black vote low enough that 10% vote white... I mean Republican.

[maine_raptor]

2. Either that or Joe Blow just doesn't have his facts straight again

As usual, I might add.

[blm]

4. I dunno...Joe's pretty good at spouting the party line lies.

.

[Bumblebee]

5. It is a well-known fact that in 2004 he got even less than in 2000.

No news here.

[MnFats]

6. so how many black votes can the next GOP prez candidate expect?

it would seem to me he'll get about a dozen nationwide and will be a liability in districts with significant black populations...

[MissMarple]

8. Probably correct. But a connection must be made to all of the poor,

not just poor blacks. I think this callous disregard affects all people living in poverty. They have nothing to give the GOP except their votes, if they do vote. And, the GOP will give them nothing except for a shell game.

And, quite frankly, with our current lack of infrastructure development we are all sitting on the edge. The middle class will take the next big hit from the GOP's plan to "starve the beast". If they want government to go to hell in a hand basket, hell is where we will all end up.

The Denver Post reported today that the city's fire trucks and equipment are in need of an overdue update. Denver's budget constraints, unaided by any practical assistance from Homeland inSecurity, are keeping the city unprepared for a major disaster.

Roads, levees, bridges, viable, sustainable energy sources, emergency preparedness....all go begging. We are stretching too thin.

So, all of the poor, all of America are the targets of these GOP criminals. Someone needs to take the ideologue goggles off the average GOP supporters, and then unmask the pretenders for what they are.

[Brother Buzz]

21. When Rove gets done spreading a ton of dough around the Gulf Region...

to include a bunch going to black churches as part of that Faith Based crap, how many black preachers will be lining up to spread GOP talking points? Cripes, using public money for political purposes, what a novel concept.

[Ksec]

7. Scarborough is good at "murdering" facts

and gettin away with it....

[daninthemoon]

9. He makes it up as he goes along.

[KittyWampus]

10. BLM, if this thread isn't on greatest page, I WILL SCREAM!

now why Democrats don't just repeat the two words "southern strategy" and make the GOP squirm... I'll never understand.

[TheStates]

11. He lies about everything. What's new?

When the GOP's moving its lips, it is lying. Blacks would never support them, nor the class racism either.

[KharmaTrain]

12. Blacks Are Getting Very Energized

Quiet, but in every major city...especially in the South and Mountain West, a lot of blacks from New Orleans are being forced and/or absorbed into those communities. The status quo has been shaken and we're not really hearing what's going on.

A good friend of mine is monitoring this situation closely. First there was a collective horror as blacks saw other blacks being abandonded in a major city by the Federal Government. They blame Bush, period. Nothing more, nothing less.

Next came the trashing by the right wing pit bulls...saying blacks were stupid for not getting out of town or they are the cause of their own problems. This has stirred up a hornet's nest as well.

His take is the black vote really wasn't that strong in 2004 as it was in 2000 and it really hasn't been courted and energized since Clinton in '92. He thinks that's going make a difference in registration next year...and his intuition it could be a surprising way...a stronger turnout of blacks in suburban areas that could tip the balance in some red districts.

[bobbieinok]

13. sure hope so.......some could decide no one cares and just not vote

or there could be a massive resistance

I spoke to a youngish black man 2 days ago......he said many blacks are watching carefully; he knew what was going on and his family helping evacuees in Atlanta did too

[TheStates]

14. Well its high time they take the gloves off.....

Its high time to throw Diebold out and I think, begin a new revolution.

[kster]

15. Any and all

electronic vote counting and tabulating system need to go, not just diebold. The machines are there for one thing and one thing only ,to steal votes.

[Raster]

17. part of the rewards of fed money going to faith-based initiatives

specifically targeted the conservative black, christian ministries. they got fed funds, they preached the party line. what is horrifying many, and rightly so, is the callous disregard of human life clearly delineated by color and/or financial status. Never, ever, ever forget that while the bush* federal government COULD NOT get water and food to the victims of Katrina, Anderson Cooper was able to film them dying of dehydration.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Blame bush, not only blacks let me tell you

but what I am seeing is anger.. but don't hold any hope any longer that this will translate into votes... I also feel there is anger, but the kind that transforms societies through other means, for many... including me, are giving up on the political process.

As much as I know many Dems worked behind the scenes we need them to take on the bullies on the air as well, and damn it I know why they can't but hot damn it, I have lost any faith this country can be taken back through any means but out right a violent, very violent revolution

[DemonFighterLives]

18. Not to discount Black Republicans

but they appear to be supporting bush only because they have found some easier money. The ones who have sold their soul to the devil, Condi and Colin seem to have abandoned their roots.

Most Blacks are smart enough to know that the only chance for power is with the dems. The republicans are racists and elitists. I heard that more blacks are slipping away from dubby and also Hispanics. It is bad enough for dubby to slaughter English, but when he slaughters Spanish, it must be twice as bad.

Time for all of us in the Big Tent to stand together to take the country back.

:grouphug:

[Cha]

19. I hadn't heard that about

bushwa getting "an unusually high amount of Black votes in Ohio"!

If I had I would have immediately known it was BOGUS!

I just read a poll on DU that I can't find again(naturally)..but it said that Black communities had Higher numbers of people who thought the War ON Iraq effected the World adversely(paraphrasing here).

They're too intelligent to vote for that idiot in Ohio or anywhere else. And, the bushwa think we're Idiots to believe it for a second.

[JNelson6563]

22. I think your words are insightful

"And he accidentally told the truth...."

Talk about spot on! :toast:

Julie

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Oh wow!

[BamaBecky]

24. Whoa!...n/t

[tlsmith1963]

25. I Suspected This

I mean, *why* would more black people vote for Bush when so many of them are in the military, & Bush has screwed up Iraq so bad? No way would they vote for him after that!

Tammy