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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:30 PM
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What about Arianna Huffington for Governor?
Would she be a good candidate for governor of CA? I love her website, but don't know much more than that about her. I think a woman could easily make Arnold look like a parody of manhood.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:31 PM
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1. You do realize that she ran against Arnold, right?
She was one of the zillions who ran in the special election after the recall.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:31 PM
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2. She could talk circles around the foolanator!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:32 PM
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3. She was a candidate in the recall. She has her fans & her detractors.
I've been both, & currently I'm ambivalent about her.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:33 PM
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4. I love Arianna, but she has to seriously reframe herself...
Read George Lakoff's Don't Think of an Elephant! to learn how easily Ah-nuld defeated everyone in the recall election.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:40 PM
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5. I like her politics, but she's as big a prima dona as Schwarezeneggar.
California is finding out already what the consequences are of hiring utterly unqualified showbiz types with no management skills. Of course I'm no Californio, so I don't get a say. But I have a feeling the people out there are getting a little tired of substance-free politics. I think the latest poll numbers show that over 58% of Calinfornians think that "You Would Cry Too, If it Happened to You" should be the new state motto.

"What's a motto?"

"I don't know. Whatsa motto with you?"

See how lame show biz shit is when there's a state in crisis?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:42 PM
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6. I would sooner vote for Arianna than Arnold
I think that Arianna is a registered independent (and I know she is a former Republican) and for that reason would have a hard time garnering support.

The Democratic Party's establishment would oppose her simply because she not a Democrat; the Democrats will run their own candidate for governor and do all they can to elect him. That will include smearing Arianna, an independent who will be more of a threat to the success of the Democrats than to Arnold.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:26 PM
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7. Huffington worked against Dems - - espeically Gore - - for DECADES
She is one of the reasons that we are stuck with both Smirk and Aaaanold. Why should we repay what was a best a total lack of political foresight (and at worst an intentional plan to support the far right in order to further her own career) by supporting her for Governor.

Here's some of the things she was saying back in 2000 (and this is just the tip of the iceberg - - I could post hundreds of articles going back through decades of her bashing Dems and supporting Republicans, as she did in 2000, as you will see below):

http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=288

The Unbearable Lightness Of George And Al

October 04, 2000 < Printer-friendly version >

Well, the first debate is over, and the official results are in: It was a great night for John McCain. By the end of that 90-minute joint press conference George W. Bush and Al Gore staged in Boston, my overwhelming feeling was: This is not a choice, it's a farce. Can we go back and replay Super Tuesday? If Bush's goal was to look presidential, he needs a big-time make-over. In fact, it was painful to watch what the tension did to him -- you could all but smell the fear through the TV screen. But then maybe this was just the first step in that interactive television we've been hearing so much about. (He also needs to stop losing weight, or get some shirts with a smaller collar.)

On the other hand, it was hard to watch Gore drone on and on without your mind wandering. Mine drifted to the refrigerator. Hmm, have those eggs passed the sell-by date? Of course, Gore would probably pick up on what you were thinking and launch into his five-part plan for ensuring food freshness: "I hear what you're asking, and if you'll entrust me with the presidency, here's what we'll do with your eggs ...." And was he aware of the disconcerting effect his constant sighing and groaning at his opponent's answers was having? (Also, despite the fact that he's his "own man," I suggest he take a fashion tip from the president and start wearing those jowl-concealing higher collars).

(more... )

http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=237

John McCain's Dilemma: Loyalty To What?

March 09, 2000 < Printer-friendly version >

John McCain's campaign to get 1,034 delegates crashed and burned on Super Tuesday - but his campaign to shift the ethos of American politics is still very much alive. "I am no longer an active candidate for my party's nomination," he said in a short speech Thursday morning. But he is actively in charge of Campaign 2000's most coveted wild card, the McCain Voter. In fact, his speech suspending his campaign seemed directed to the "millions of Americans" who "have rallied to our banner" and "ignited the cause of reform, a cause far greater and more important than the ambitions of a single candidate. "He implored them: "Promise me that you'll never give up."

Al Gore and George W. Bush are now going out of their way to capture that reform constituency. While Bush pleaded, "John, let's team up and win," Gore was shameless: "To those Republicans and Independents out there, whose heroes are Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, to all of you I say as well, join with us. Our campaign is now your cause."

Meanwhile good (a.k.a. blindly loyal) Republicans everywhere were urging McCain to endorse Bush without delay. As Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), one of the few senators behind McCain, put it: "John understands the consequences and the big stakes. The big stakes are defeating Al Gore." Clearly McCain has decided there are bigger things. He offered his "best wishes" to Bush but did not endorse him, nor did he hand over his supporters to the GOP as if they were a gift he could deliver.

The reason, in fact, they are not "deliverable" is the reason they are McCain supporters in the first place. They flocked to him precisely because he embodied a change from the kind of politics-as-usual attitude such an endorsement would represent. If, after spending his entire campaign defining Bush as emblematic of everything that is wrong with modern politics, McCain had turned around and backed him, that giant stomping sound would not be applause but rather a stampede in the other direction.

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http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/printer_friendly.php?id=244

Al Gore: A Profile In Pandering

By Arianna Huffington

April 03, 2000

When the people who like Al Gore try to explain why, they typically wax lyrical about his competence. But it's this very competence, combined with an utter lack of core principles he'd be unwilling to jettison in his pursuit of the presidency, that makes the vice president such a frightening specimen of the modern politician Candidatus No-Shameus . Over the course of Campaign 2000 alone, Gore has shown himself to be a political shape-shifter of unsurpassed skill -- a sure-fire first-ballot inductee into the Panderers' Hall of Fame.

(snip)

Like a rock-'n'-roll drummer with no sense of rhythm, Gore just can't find the beat. The week that ended with Gore pandering to the Cuban-American voting bloc began with him trying to turn his "no controlling legal authority" vulnerability on the issue of campaign finance reform into the centerpiece of his general election run.

(more... )

http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=276

Corporate America 2000: A Convention Preview

August 10, 2000

(snip)

"The Republican convention in Philadelphia was the most open and shameless buying and selling of public officials in history," Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura told me this week. "And it will be exactly the same outrage with the Democrats in Los Angeles." Similar productions, slightly different demographics. At least George W. Bush had the good sense to remain silent about the enormous amounts of corporate money pouring into his party's coffers. But Gore has apparently decided to rail against special interests, even as he's nuzzling up to their back pockets. No wonder he's known in the business as "a natural."

(more... )

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h061200_1.shtml

Postscript—The next level: Someone always seems to take the Official Spin up to the next level. Last fall, pundits spent a month embarrassing themselves about the number of buttons on Gore's suits (three). Three-button suits had been in fashion for years; Brooks Brothers (!), in the Wall Street Journal (!), was running ads for such suits at the time. Brooks Brothers!! But the Official Spin was hard and unyielding: Gore had taken some weird advice on clothes from an overpaid "guru." The pundits took turns embarrassing themselves with their inane and vacuous comments. Finally, Arianna Huffington improved the news on Rivera Live one night:

HUFFINGTON: Frankly, what is fascinating is the way he's now dressing makes a lot of people feel disconnected from him. And there was this marvelous story in one of the New Hampshire papers saying, "Nobody here in Hanover wears tan suits with blue shirts and buttons all four buttons." It's just not the way Americans dress.

In a year of embarrassing and inane pundit commentary, we think this one may have taken the cake. After weeks of complaining about three-button suits, Huffington found a way to top other scribes. We have pointed this out again and again: When the pundits agree to say the same thing, the only way to stand out is by saying it larger. This leads to spinning the message up—to saying that Gore is wearing four-button suits, or to saying that he reinvented himself two times. We pray that history will look back with jaws agape at our press corps' utter inanity. But understand this: If this hopeless crew had to earn its keep, they'd all have been fired long ago.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:32 PM
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8. Thanks for posting these. I remember her as being a very potent agent of
the Right.

Even though she writes some pretty good stuff now, I haven't forgotten those days.

I've asked here whether she ever adequately explained her apparent political transformation. Someone linked something from her site, it seemed rather glib and didn't do a very good job explaining anything as far as I was concerned, especially considering how active she shilled for the Right in the near past.

I'm glad she appears to be on the right side of issues now but her credibility as a spokesperson for the opposition is not the greatest in my mind.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:10 PM
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11. Is there no redemption?
I too was once a fundy repuglican.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:16 PM
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13. Not only that she was part of the media smear machine against Clinton
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 03:17 PM by Cleita
when he was impeached. She was on every other talk show alongside Ann Coulter, Kelley Conway and Barbara Olson trashing his character.
I have forgiven Arianna because she has been very active in getting out the word that the Republicans she once worshipped are nothing but a bunch of crooks. So I give her credit for that. I think she is an excellent writer and would rather have her doing her articles and columns like she always does.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:31 PM
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18. I remember her and her husband ran
the most vile campaign I ever saw against Feinstein.(Bleh)
I always felt an apology to Californians was in order, since the new Arianna has lots to say about campaigning
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:51 PM
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20. I remember that.
Hooboy!
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:34 PM
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9. Why do people love celebrities to govern them?
it's a sign of a sick society.


What's wrong with people who have education and experience in government?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:55 PM
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10. She ran for Governor and apparently didn't do so good.
I'd happily support her if I were a Californian, but she doesn't look like she'd be real viable as a candidate. Too bad since I'm sure she would be a vast improvement over Ahnold.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:12 PM
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12. She ran against Arnold and lost the last time.
What makes you think she would win this time?
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:31 PM
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17. I preserved that debate tape
between her, Arnold, Bustamante, McClintock, and Camejo, and believe me, it wasn't a pretty debate.

I'd rather she stick to writing and to her blog; she's more effective in those venues.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:41 PM
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21. She's a good writer and reaches more people that way.
I don't think she would be a good administrator, but then Ahnold isn't either.
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:23 PM
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14. As a Southern Californian, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat. She has
some great ideas and really independent/progressive outlook on things. When she ran for Governor, she ran not realizing the knuckle-dragging gropenator was going to run. Once he entered the race, he gobbled up the media and played them like a violin. It was sickening to watch.

But we're all on to him now. The press isn't so awestruck by him now.

Right now, he'd have a very hard time winning an election. If we can get a good dem or progressive/independent (a la Viargosa) we could win in a walk. This state is sick of Arnold and his shrill shrew of a spouse.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:25 PM
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15. I'm voting for someone I can understand.
I love Arianna, think she is brilliant...insightful but lordy, I have trouble understanding her sometimes. After steroid boy's thick accented drivel, I'm backing Angelides. He is a terrific speaker; he is a true progressive; he plans for the future not just 2morrow.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:27 PM
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16. I don't worry about the accent but the brain and the heart.
I'm going for Angelides too if he runs. Also, he's more qualified for government that either Arnold or Arianna.
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:33 PM
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19. Californians
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 03:33 PM by nvliberal
need to stick with people who know or should know what the hell they are doing and forget about the glamour and the showbiz nonsense.

Arnold's due for a booting, but I don't know if voters in the state have enough sense.
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