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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:44 PM
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The Big "Pro-Life" Scam
Republicans can't win the abortion issue at the ballot box. The vast majority of Americans want abortion to remain legal, albeit with some restrictions.

They can't nominate Justices who are honest about being against abortion and have talked or written about it.

Bush himself will only say he "values life" (like who doesn't), and will not commit to saying Roe V Wade should be overturned or commit to saying there should be a constitutional amendment banning abortion. He doesn't say these things because polls show he would lose support if he does. America doesn't agree with them.

So what do they do? They try to find prospective justices who have no paper trail and who will not divulge anything in confirmation hearings, but who they know will overturn Roe V Wade.

They try to hoodwink the American people with STEALTH candidates, all the time loudly proclaiming how full of integrity they are.

They are dishonest liars who don't have the courage of their convictions. And if Americans can't see through the duplicity, they deserve what they get.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:55 PM
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1. Yep. And it's not "pro life". It's ANTI choice.
If the republicans, the honest anti-choice ones, were successful in overturning Roe v Wade, then the republican OPERATIVES would have no big ISSUE to divide the country with.

Dividing the country is their agenda... and until they find a suitable replacement, they need to keep it hot.

The "gay marriage" thing hasn't been as hot nor as easily used to rouse the protection instincts as the baby thing. They have videos of little fetuses in the womb, responding to pain invitro, and that just gets the fundies all torn up, and on the band wagon.

"Gay marriage" is a mutual decision between adults, and doesn't really strike the same prtective hysteria as the baby videos do. The fundie operatives (those in high positions), have to make people think THROUGH a whole set of "what-ifs"; like "what if" someone influenced your child, and "what if" your child then DECIDED to become gay; and "what if" you couldn't influence your child to turn away from it all.

Too much thinking has to be engaged at once, and the fundies have to react with quick sound-bites, ready made, for their base to be able to "get it".

The abortion thing strikes the right cord for division. The "support the troops" thing is too easily refuted, when your kid gets killed, and when you see Cindy Sheehan.

Roe v Wade is too valuable as a political tool for the neocons to keep people divided. Until they have COMPLETELY saturated the courts and State governments with their black-box-elected or appointed officials, the neocons can't afford to reverse Roe.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:58 PM
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2. That's why I put it in quotes n/t
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:34 PM
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5. I personally favor
the term 'forced birth', but that's just me.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:59 PM
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3. The problem is
I don't deserve what they are going to get. So I have to work harder to wake them up to the con they are getting pulled on them.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:00 PM
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4. the religiously insane have been infiltrating American politics
with STEALTH candidates (from school boards, to transportation districts, to city councils to the judiciary, all the way to the Senate and the WH) for decades now.

It is a silent coup based on lies and mental illness.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 05:27 PM
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6. I used to be a real moderate on this subject
Untill i was forced out of my sisters church for not taking pictures of woman entering abortion clinics with a digital camera. They wanted to scarlet letter these women by putting up on a website. When I said "no" they kicked me out. I was so distraught i couldn't speak for three days.

Simply put I believe that the only say so a man has over the procedure is before the sexual act. And also I dont like the way the anti choicers treat anyone who disagrees with them in the slightest bit in regards to thier action. Finally I personally believe thatlife begins when the heart starts beatting and the brain connects but thats just me. And I dont legislate my opinnon.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:02 PM
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7. Well that's just it
everyone has to follow the dictates of their heart on this. and it ain't anyone's right to empower the state to make those decisions for us.

The real radical activists on this issue are on the anti-choice side, because they have the fever of religion to buttress their zealotry.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:06 PM
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8. i feel sorry for anybody that has children
It's true "pro-life" is nothing but a scam. I don't feel that it is necessary for me to put another slave on this planet. A slave that may be forced into dying in a foreign land because of deceptions.
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