What's wrong with Biden?

[calmblueocean]

I'm just curious to see why Joe Biden has so little support on DU. Maybe you all know something I don't, but to me he seems like a great candidate for 2008. Lots better than Hillary, anyway. But all I ever see are people bashing him. So why no love for Joe? Give me specifics.

[Lindsay]

1. Biden talks a great fight.

He's an impressive speaker with an impressive knowledge of constitutional law.

But he says one thing and does another, like voting for that abomination of a bankruptcy bill.


on edit: typo as usual

[Melodybe]

23. Because he is a corporatist dem, he votes by and for the war machine

He is a DINO!!!

[bluestateguy]

2. Biden (D-MBNA)

That's why.

Oh, and he is a sanctimonious, pompous, opportunistic ass, who goes in whatever direction the polls go. He also plagiarizes speeches.

[WhiteTara]

3. When Alberto "geneva convention is quaint" Gonzales

was up for confirmation for attorney general, Biden waxed eloquently and told Gonzales "I really really like you man". That just about made me puke. Of course that is only one small story, I'm sure you'll hear many more.

[Lethe]

4. he never saw a war he didnt like? nt

[daninthemoon]

5. I mostly love him, but there is something ingenuine about his

constant smile. He is a politician to the core. Nonetheless, as far as I can remember, he has been a consistant voice of reason and defiance to the rethugs. Does anyone remember how he voted on Iraq?

[MisterP]

8. for--didn't even need to check my list

[Catrina]

11. He may be a voice of reason

as he was on the Condy nomination, but then he voted for her. He's unpredictable and, imo, a showman. Sometimes he sounds great, exhibits outrage at appropriate times, only to vote for a Republican issue just when you thought he was a real Democrat.

I don't trust him, he doesn't act according to his conscience. Unless his mouth is not speaking for his conscience. If he did, he would not have voted for Concoleeza Rice.

Don't remember his vote on the war, but I think he voted for it.

[mazzarro]

20. Biden Chaired The Senate Committee That Gave * Green Light For War

That kangaroo committee refused to call Scott Ritter and other anti-war leaders to testify and instead invited all sorts of lying "so called experts on Iraq" to give alarmist testimonies in front of tv-cameras in order to boost a foregone decision to support war against Iraq.

[Cleita]

6. I guess it has something to do with him always stating how

much he likes *. Probably the Repbulican residue on both him and Hillary don't work for me very well, but I would rather take Hillary if I have to settle for DLC. At least she's a woman and might have that perspective in her decisions.

[tkmorris]

7. He is all bluster

I really don't feel like going into a detailed analysis of all his failings but what it comes down to is Joe is great at getting face time on camera and appearing to be tough, and then he goes on to vote for the very thing or person he was so tough about.

Gonzales for example. People perceive that Joe held his feet to the fire because that's what they saw on television. In the end though Biden voted to confirm him. Bankruptcy changes, same deal. And on and on. I almost prefer a Zell Miller, or at least a Diane Feinstein, because they don't bullshit you. Joe Biden pretends to be a leading Dem voice of the opposition but when crunch time comes he rolls over again and again.

Edited because I confused a name.

[ruggerson]

9. He's about as genuine as Pam Anderson's breasts

[shadowknows69]

14. Biden's like a dud bottle rocket

with a long fuse. he'll get all fired up about something or passionately rant on why he should oppose something then when blast off time comes he just goes ftttttt! dud.

[daninthemoon]

10. OK, now I don't like him at all anymore.

[Bumblebee]

12. Oh, please, no -- he is a pompous, mostly spineless narcissist

who talks a big game (and enjoys hearing himself talk) but never comes through. Not him!

[charlie]

13. Preening showhorse

who regularly runs the course backwards.

[Selatius]

15. He's OWNED by MBNA

He voted against the interests of every hardworking American in this country by voting for that atrocious bankruptcy bill, which just makes it harder for everybody to get help when they need it the most.

[valerief]

19. He's their whore, for sure

[Lex]

16. Biden plagarized in a speech when he ran for Prez in 1988. PROBLEM.

"Democratic presidential candidate Joseph R. Biden Jr., a U.S. senator from Delaware, was driven from the nomination battle after delivering, without attribution, passages from a speech by British Labor party leader Neil Kinnock. A barrage of subsidiary revelations by the press also contributed to Biden's withdrawal: a serious plagiarism incident involving Biden during his law school years; the senator's boastful exaggerations of his academic record at a New Hampshire campaign event; and the discovery of other quotations in Biden's speeches pilfered from past Democratic politicians."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/biden.htm

[xray s]

17. We need a fresh face in '08

someone like Clark or Schweitzer of Feingold.

The same old tired DC crowd won't do it. Too much baggage.

[ruggerson]

18. Or Warner or Schweitzer

:)

[ncteechur]

21. He and the rest have not guts--no balls--no staying power.

There are a few who continually push back against this administration... Conyers and a very few others. The rest hit a sound byte and then it is back to doing nothing. They do not push back. They do not counter-punch. They do not call this corrupt administration out for being the liars and crooks that they are. The line from the American President sums it up--they are too busy tying to keep their jobs that they forget to DO THEIR JOBS. I'm sick of it. There are some republicans in Congress that push back against the administration more than the democrats do collectively sometimes. That is pitiful.

[Rageneau]

22. Is that you, Joe?

[tkmorris]

24. deleted

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Senator Running Mouth? Pro-war, Pro-Corporation, DLC(R).

He does the impossible! He makes even the likes of Joe Lieberman look (somewhat) ethical.