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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:30 AM
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I'm so fcking pissed! Lindsay Graham on Fox w/ Chris Wallace.
They were talking about how we were going to pay for all of the rebuilding of the Gulf Coast.

Lindsay Graham said rather than borrow money, Congress should cut benefits straight across the board, OR delay the prescription drug benefit for up to 2 years.

HOW ABOUT GIVING UP YOUR TAX CUT - YOU PIG????
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:32 AM
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1. Some repug said pretty much the same thing on
George Stephenopolus (sp?) show.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:33 AM
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2. You must be crazy. Don't you understand that some of us are 'entitled'?
You know, the ones who's children don't have to serve in Iraq. It's not for them to do the dirty work.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:33 AM
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3. Even better, bring the troops home
and stop throwing away a billion a week in that hole they call Iraq.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:35 AM
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4. To his credit, and I hate to give credit to Graham
He did say that he hopes they have learned from Iraq, spending all of that money, and not getting anywhere over there.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:43 AM
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11. Graham is actually trying to attend to the Nation's business
Unlike people like Coburn, Cornyn, Hutchinson, Sessions, Chambliss, Ricky, etc. who are simply pursuing an agenda that is in the interest of the oligarchy of the affluent.

Someone needs to be courageous enough to put this into play. Like it not, we are going to have to pay for this sooner, rather than later. We cannot keep smiling and shoving the bill to our children. Anyone who cares about future generations must accept the moral responsibility we have to tend to our collective national debt.
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:47 AM
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14. Don't be fooled by Graham.
He's a slimebucket like the rest of them who may be having higher political aspirations, so he has to sound reasonable.

Remember, this turd was one of the "prosecutors" during Clinton's sham impeachment.

I will NEVER believe a word this guy says.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:54 AM
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18. I'll save my judgment for when
they have the votes for relief efforts and whatnot. How did he vote by the way on that first relief bill?
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:36 AM
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5. well I hope
that by giving this type of thinking "air time", Middle America
will wake up to the "warped mindset" of the right???

holy cats that's stupid.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:43 AM
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12. this kind of thinking proves they are asleep.... Fascist Corporate Whores.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:39 AM
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6. Why do you watch the Rupert/Saudi News Corp?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:42 AM
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9. Waiting for George Steph to come on, besides, face it,
we are controlled by the repukes right now, and we need to know where their pointy little heads are at.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:41 AM
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7. I just saw Biden giving Bu$h and Wolfie a blow job.. on CNN
they got to have pictures of him with farm animals or something worse for him to whore out that bad...
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:41 AM
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8. For your own sanity, stop listening to these turds.
These are empty words from hollow men who couldn't care less whether most of us thrive or fail: live or die.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:43 AM
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10. I hate to add to your angst, but check out this repug:
They have no shame.

Senator hunts for `death tax` dead
WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- A leading proponent of abolishing the federal estate tax reportedly looked into using Hurricane Katrina victims to promote the cause.

Time magazine reports U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., called his old law professor to discuss the prospect. The professor, Harold Apolinsky, is also a co-author of federal legislation to repeal the estate tax, Time said.

Sessions called Apolinsky Sept. 9 and left a voicemail indicating the legislation -- which ran into some opposition on Capitol Hill before Katrina struck -- could get a boost if someone who would be affected by the tax were to die during the hurricane.

'(Arizona Sen.) Jon Kyl and I were talking about the estate tax,' Sessions reportedly said on the tape. 'If we knew anybody that owned a business that lost life in the storm, that would be something we could push back with.'

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/article...


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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:45 AM
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13. Kyl is MY senator - ugh. I have to post that article in the Az forum.
I want him out!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:54 AM
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19. "We Have A Robust Economy, And We Don't Want To Do Anything
to slow the economy down. Tax increases tend to slow the economy down, so theres a delicate balance there". Kyl this morning on Wolfie Blitzer

What can I say.

Also, Biden noted that elimination of the estate tax would cost $1T over ten years.

Cut taxes, bill the children. And the GOP is the 'family values' party.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:48 AM
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15. This gives Republicans the perfect excuse
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 10:51 AM by OHdem10
to do what they hve intended for years.

Dismantle the FDR Social Programs. They(Republicanss) never voted for these
and live to see them gone.

Use Katrina to cut other programs. The less people receive
they will miss as time goes by. Cut here there and pretty soon
no safety net.

Congress needs watch
ing and very carefully carefully. They control the purse.

The President gets on TV and doing some Republican Doublespeak
makes some people think "He sounds like FDR or Lyndon Johnson.
No--No No----read between the lines. Congress controls the
money. The president may sound like he is spending 300,000
billion. He is so so generous. Watch Appropriations.

Democrats who are usually clueless had better be watching
very carefully. It may be Good Bye Safety Net.

Why not go through that Transportation bill and re-direct all
the Pork to the Gulf Coast.



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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:50 AM
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16. and common sense
doesn't get air time anymore anyway..
"it doesn't sell".

(more bumper stickers to ponder for the right)
1.Crazy sells.
2.Vote for Crazy.
3.Crazy and Proud of It.
4.Common sense is so Yesterday.


For Dem's:
I've always liked:
"The Common Sense Revolution"

by the way is it common sense or commonsense?? lol


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:50 AM
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17. Of course not
Then he'd actually have to give something up.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:04 AM
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20. Now you know why I can only shake my head
when someone here says 'contact your senators'.

Graham is the 'reasonable' one.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:06 AM
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21. Vitter and Pence (IN) are saying the same thing.
Pence, especially! Pence said no way to reverse tax cuts - cut prescription drugs instead.

This is bullshit - and it's time to start demanding that they do this.

Cut benefits to the elderly, the poor, the sick, the disabled... and enjoy your $2000 suits that you wear to church.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:09 AM
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22. Is his buddy, Hillary, going to go along with him again on this one?
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 11:25 AM by higher class
Hillary, whose brains, savvy, idealism, and drive I've praised since I learned about her? Will she cut herself out or in on this idea?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:18 AM
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23. If she was smart, or for that matter any Dem that is looking at '08
They would initiate the drive to take back the tax cut.

That was one of Kerry's biggest issues last year.

Hillary and Kerry together would be a good place to start this.
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