LOOK AT THIS!! Exit Poll Data Does Not Match Pre-Election Polls

[helderheid]

Exit Poll Data Does Not Match Pre-Election Polls
by Tim Lohrentz Thursday, Jan. 06, 2005 at 5:14 AM

The national exit poll data was adjusted during the early morning hours of November 3. This report reveals many inconsistencies in this adjustment, including a weighting process that leaves impossible results, such as 104% turnout of the Bush 2000 voters.

It is now well known that the final exit polls from the November 2 Presidential contest between George W. Bush and John Kerry were adjusted (weighted) once actual vote tallies arrived in order to match the reported vote. This paper will first demonstrate that the weighting process was invalid. In other words, it is mathematically impossible to match the exit polls to the reported results of the popular vote. Then this paper will compare exit poll results to pre-election poll trends over the last month leading up to the election and then provide some other clues regarding which states may have fraudulent results.

more...

http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1713046.php

[malaise]

1. More proof

the German election today. Everyone else's exit polls work.

[helderheid]

2. I slept in - what was the result? Both polls and outcome?

[malaise]

4. No majority government -CDU lost big time

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/0,1595,266,00.html# - use the live ticker.

17:54 UTC
One Point Difference Between CDU, SPD
The latest vote counts from 7:30 pm, an hour and a half after the polls closed across the country show the difference between CDU and SPD narrowing to about one percentage point.

CDU: 35.3
SPD: 34.1
FDP: 10.1
Greens: 8.1
Left Party: 8.5

The division of seats in the Bundestag:

CDU: 220
SPD: 212
FDP: 63
Greens: 50
Left: 53

[louis-t]

6. Not only do everyone else's exit polls work

but ours ALWAYS worked until 2000.

[malaise]

9. Correct

and the silence from the media and most leading academic institutions given the science of polling can only mean collusion. I have lots of respect for those academics who exposed it for what it was. Exit polls are very accurate and are used across the globe.

[Richard Steele]

21. Perhaps not ALWAYS....

I hear that the exit poll data
for B*sh's Texas Gubenatorial race
is nowhere to be found these days...

[FreedomAngel82]

32. If you haven't yet

go to bradblog.com and listen to his interview with the sports guy. I can't remember his name right now but he tells how the polls worked and he knows numbers since he works in the sports casting field and how the same people who did our exit polling did the exit polling in the Ukraine and we all know what happened with that. Did the same people do the same exit polling for Germany?

[PatrioticLeftie]

3. The evidence just keeps mounting

and the RW just keeps ignoring

[helderheid]

5. maybe with brad blog's "diethroat" this issue will finally come to light -

Why did the Ukraine election get overturned? Oh right! Exit polls didn't match...

[ticapnews]

7. Sorry, but it doesn't matter...

We could find a letter from Walden O'Dell to George W. Bush explaining exactly how he was going to rig each voting machine, in painstaking detail, and it still wouldn't matter. Shrub has a base of 35-40% who will not desert him. He could invite Osama bin Laden to stay the weekend in the White House, he could have an orgy with a group of Boy Scouts in the Rose Garden and he could admit that he stole the election. These people would find some way to justify it.

"Of course he had to steal the election, we'd all be dead now if John Kerry had won. We should all be grateful that the president and his advisors had the foresight to override the votes of those traitorous liberals who wanted us to surrender to the terrorists."

And his followers would see the logic in that statement.

[helderheid]

8. I agree however it DOES matter - if 2004 is exposed, we have a chance in

future elections. Otherwise, kiss democracy goodbye, kids!

[blossomstar]

17. upset in 2000, kissed democracy goodbye in 2004....still, I voted.

[cassiepriam]

18. You are totally correct ticapnews....

The facts, truth no longer matter.
BushCo can do whatever they want with impunity.
Katrina response will not matter either.
Bush will do what he wants before he leaves the WH.

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Someone has a quote

from a republican guy that said now they create their own realities. *sigh* We just live in them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

36. You've capitulated

You've capitulated. So what do you advise doing? Are you immigrating?

[Junkdrawer]

19. Yeah! Polls prove the pre-election and exit polls were not cooked...

:think:

[bleever]

10. One more nomination, please? It's been a big week for election

news. Here's another good piece.

:thumbsup:

[oasis]

11. Kicked and recommended for maximum exposure all day Sunday.

[stepnw1f]

12. Kick (nt)

[helderheid]

13. thanks all y'all

TIA really deserves credit for this find:

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=168

[MelissaB]

15. You're welcome, and

thanks TIA! :hi:

[helderheid]

14. kick

[Peace Patriot]

16. Recommended! How I would put it is this:

1. Electronic voting companies run by major Bush donors and campaign chairs gained control of our election system in the 2001-2004 period, by means of contracts with the states for new voting technology that included TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, and no requirement of a "paper trail" for recounts and audits. This coup was made possible by a $4 billion boondoggle appropriated by Bush's "pod people" in Congress to facilitate secret programming of the vote tabulation, and to enrich Bush's buds at Diebold and ES&S, not only by providing ready cash for purchase of their voting systems with no controls on lavish lobbying, but also by state matching fund requirements which hogtie the states to the expensive, long term servicing contracts that these systems require (which also facilitates access to election machinery and data by private company personnel).

2. The Democratic Party leadership fell for it. Insane as it seems. (Was there ever a corrupt boondoggle that Democrats didn't fall for?) (Star Wars, maybe. Not much else.)

3. Having sold away our right to vote, the Democrats then went as silent as monks--as dead as doornails, and as AWOL as Karl Rove was in the first 3 or 4 days of Katrina (negotiating his Treasongate pardon, was he?) (--that's my guess)--as the long nightmare of a second Bush stolen election descended upon us, upon the people of Iraq, and upon the people of the Gulf coast.

4. Late on Nov. 2, 2004, the TV networks, acting in concert, FALSIFIED their own exit poll data (Kerry won) to "fit" the "official result" derived from Diebold's and ES&S's secret formulae (Bush won)-- thus depriving the American people of major evidence of election fraud, and squelching protests and calls for investigation--possibly the worst journalistic crime ever committed.

Our democracy ended that night. The question is, can we revive it? Do we have sufficient shreds of local/state power left, as a people, to restore TRANSPARENT, VERIFIABLE elections and to THROW THESE ELECTION THEFT MACHINES INTO 'BOSTON HARBOR'!!! (--or the nearest 'Louisiana levee'!)???

???

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See: uscountvotes.org --for a quick rundown of the problem, and a viable effort (theirs) to monitor election results and help challenge all suspicious, unverifiable elections in 2006. (They need donations!)

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

20. MUST keep this on the front burner!!! nt.

[helderheid]

23. absolutely

[Nothing Without Hope]

24. My suspicion is that there was collusion with some Dems. I don't see how

this whole thing could have been pulled off without it.

[helderheid]

25. oh I don't know - every one of the voting machine companies has GOP ties -

Anyone know of Dem ties with the machine companies? After all, it's not who votes but who counts the votes...

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Also don't forget

that EVERY SINGLE ERROR was in George Bush's FAVOR. Not one for John Kerry.

[DrDebug]

22. Kick

[DemReadingDU]

26. The Republicans control everything

I don't see how the next election will be any different. They will win again, unless we have some whistleblowers speak loudly about the fraud.

[Melissa G]

27. kick!

[helderheid]

28. just a reminder... THE ****FINAL**** EXIT POLL DID NOT MATCH PRE-ELECTION

THE ****FINAL**** EXIT POLL DID NOT MATCH PRE-ELECTION POLLS

[shockingelk]

29. Sorry, this paper is bunk

A very large number of people voted – 122.6 million. The 'fixed' exit poll says that of these, 43 percent voted for Bush in 2000 ... Translating this into numbers means that of the 122.6 million voters in 2004, 52.6 million voted for Bush in 2000 ... This is impossible!

The writer assumes that only Bush 2000 voters voted for Bush in 2004.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. You have to also keep in mind

that not everybody is polled in those things are they? Some people are polled and don't vote and some go vote who aren't polled. :shrug: I don't know how that stuff works though.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. I also wanted to add

if you haven't go to http://www.pbs.org and find the film "The Architect" and watch the first segment. It's about the 2004 election and is fishy.

[ladylibertee]

34. YUP.....This is why everything is fallen out from under him.....

He should not have been in the White House 2000 or 2005.He is not qualified to run this type of country.

[helderheid]

37. thanks for the link

[wallwriter]

38. Preaching to the choir, folks. Try getting it in the MSM.