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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:54 PM
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Our leaders are not AWOL
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 02:53 PM by smartvoter
Okay, in another thread dealing with party leaders -- these four in particular -- the common grip is:

"Where are they?" as if they are AWOL right now.

Clinton:
Has been on Larry King twice, This Week, Meet the Press and I don't know what else. Despite his co-fund raising efforts with Senior (which has raised staggering sums for New Orleans relief, BTW), he has been brutal on policy issues and smacked down attempts to dump NO on him, with Bush Sr. right there when he put it right back on the current administration.

Dean:
Has been all over creation. He was on CNN with Blitzer and again to deliver a pre-speech rebuttal to Bush's speech. People here provided details of other events I did not personally witness.

Gore:
Personally paid for and oversaw the evacuation of people from Charity Hospital, and turned around and gave a blistering speech at the Sierra Club that has since been reprinted in numerous publications.

Kerry:
Has introduced badly needed legislation following the mess in New Orleans and provided a brutal smackdown of Bush's speech, saying leadership isn't an 800 number.

And these are all things I have seen myself. I would imagine there's plenty more.

The bottom line:

Do our leaders always do what we want? No. In fact, it's impossible because what one person praises the next disses. But to say they're AWOL right now is simply not true.


Edit: typo
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 01:55 PM
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1. You forgot the CBC
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:56 PM
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7. I won't bash Dean, Gore, and possible Kerry
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 03:00 PM by Melodybe
sorry but I bash on Clinton all I like, Clinton deserves it.

Get over him already he is playing you.

Nothing that he has said recently even can be considered a drop in the bucket for getting these fascists out of power.

If Clinton cared he would pay more attention to the most important aspect of living in a democracy, the right to vote, both he and Hillary have been a joke on the issue. Who cares what they say if they won't say a fucking thing about Diebold!

You people need to wake up.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:03 PM
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2. repuke rats are hiding in their holes eom
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:06 PM
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3. Hilary, Bill, Dean, Pelosi, Edwards & Obama have been doing a lot of media
Kerry needs to do a TV interview too...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:15 PM
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4. Ah, but pretending that they never do anything fits the agenda.
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 02:16 PM by TwilightZone
If they acknowledged that our leaders do tend to fight back, that would blunt their arguments.

And we can't have that now, can we?

Edit: just watch. Your posting will get a few responses, but will be largely ignored.

But, start a thread along the lines of "our leaders suck" and you'll get a zillion responses in general agreement.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:52 PM
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5. Of course, the liberal broadcast media really amps the opposition
message...right? The same old designated "Democrats", Biden/Lieberman, always get to frame the response...which is usually, "the pResident is right, but we'd do it a little different".

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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 02:55 PM
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6. These people are doing good things...as many others are...
Maybe the naysayers are wanting a coordinated effort with one outstanding leader. I don't think most Dems are AWOL at this time, though there is no "one voice" thing to get behind.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:23 PM
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8. They are doing a great job. The truth all of a sudden is in the news.
Bush cannot spin himself out of things by claiming 'alternate reality'. So he ends up having to answer questions about what is really going on.
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