Why Roberts Could be Great!!!

[smartvoter]

Okay, the new "gay photo" of Roberts, combined with his life situation, could make for an interesting twist of fate. (Married late, adopted kids, the still unexplained clearance and repeated visits to the White House by a gay prostitute and fake reporter, someone said he's written gay legal briefs -- if true -- add that to the list, etc.)

If Roberts is the kind of person who is gay and figured out that he needs to "play the game" to get ahead, and decided to "play it straight" to win in our twisted power system, this would be a major victory for the gay community. If he gets this seat, he is untouchable for life. Imagine the legacy of a closeted gay Chief Justice of the Supreme Court young enough to serve 30+ years.

I have been opposed to Roberts from the beginning for all the obvious reasons, and I stand by those, but it looks like he's in no matter what. But if this actually turned out to be what it seems is possible, imagine what an untouchable, gay Supreme Court Justice could do over the next 30 years. If he really is this smart, he won't suddenly come out, either. He'll simply make decisions that drive neocons nuts, decade in and decade out.

Note to all the Freepers who spend more time here than at their own site: No apologies for the heart attacks you are suffering as you read this. :evilgrin:


Edited to add photo at request:

[stepnw1f]

1. Rightwing Jezus Land!

As soon as nob hober gets in there we'll have christmas everyday.

[understandinglife]

2. ROFL -- and talk about "irony"!!!

:rofl: :evilgrin:



Peace.

[smartvoter]

11. They would need a new word for irony -- something stronger!!! nt

[maine_raptor]

3. Not untouchable

A Federal Judge can be impeached. Same process as for a President; articles drawn up and voted on by House, trial in Senate.

The GOP has the votes to find articles and pass them in the House, but I doubt they could get the 2/3rds (67 votes) needed in the Senate.

But if they did try.......:popcorn: It'll be a great spectacle watching the "tigers" eating their young.

[Ksec]

4. Maybe but then he could go really hard right to overcompensate

for his gayness.

[mazzarro]

5. Don't be too sure!

Think of Clarence Thomas - fact that he is 'black' has not stopped him from being one of the most anti-black judges.

[electron_blue]

9. right, and look at what Phyllis Schlafly has done for women, not to mentio

many gay-bashers are themselves closeted gays.

Still - I get your point. *If* he's gay (I have no idea) he could come out and support gay rights and wow, wouldn't the right be ticked.

oh well. back to reality anyone?

[jim3775]

6. I see it the opposite way

If he is gay and is ashamed of it enough to stay closeted, find a wife, adopt kids and embrace fundamentalist religion that means he is desperatly trying not to be gay.

I think he would do the opposite, he would regularly make anti-gay fundie decisions because he is angry at himself and ashamed of his homosexuality.

[smartvoter]

10. Perhaps. But this does add a certain unknown to the equation. nt

[LiberalFighter]

12. If he feels that negatively about his sexuality then he would...

be more inclined to kill himself in the near future.

[maine_raptor]

13. But with a lifetime appointment...........

only way out is death or impeachment, could he not also feel "safe" enough to come out publicly?

[smartvoter]

17. Or at the very least, rule far more liberally than anyone is expecting?

[maine_raptor]

19. My thoughts too, smartvoter.

A "closet" Souter?

[smartvoter]

20. Stuck with him anyway, so let's cross our fingers and hope for the best.nt

[smartvoter]

23. Plus, this photo isn't the in-denial type of look. He could be

now, of course, but if this whole thing turned out to be real, my money is that he figured out the mask he needed. This photo isn't of someone in a suit clinging to a bible and avoiding other gays at all costs.

But this is all conjecture anyway, of course.

[Lars39]

7. Nope, he's part of the "ruling" class that doesn't have the same rules

to live by, and he wouldn't rule in the underclasses favor, either. Or at least that's my prediction.

[Pushed To The Left]

8. That would be awesome!

I have been opposed to Roberts as well, but I would love to be proven wrong! Ann Coulter's been running around saying that Roberts is "another Souter". For once, I hope she is right!

[smartvoter]

18. self delete

[fob]

14. HEY! You can't drop in with a "Roberts gay photo" and NOT provide a link!

Where is it?

[smartvoter]

15. Sorry. Just added to the original... nt

[fob]

21. Thanks and if this gets airtime, bush* will pull this nom faster than

Halliburton gets a government contract!

[smartvoter]

22. The only thing faster than the speed of light is the awarding of a

Halliburton contract...

[maine_raptor]

16. Go here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4803569&mesg_id=4803569

[hootinholler]

24. You asked us to

Imagine the legacy of a closeted gay Chief Justice of the Supreme Court young enough to serve 30+ years.


Sadly, my first imagination of the situation is: Then he can be blackmailed. Perhaps that is why the appointment?

Now if he comes out after appointment, that would make some interesting discussion. Could he be removed?

In any event, I doubt he would be the first Gay Supreme.

-Hoot

[maine_raptor]

25. He can be removed, see post #3

[smartvoter]

28. Wouldn't they have to find serious grounds for that? nt

[maine_raptor]

29. "Impeachment is what the House says it is" - Gerald Ford

Grounds are spelled out in Constitution, but basically what ever the powers that be decide is what the grounds are. Could be something as simple as a blowjob, remember?

[hootinholler]

32. Perjury, wasn't it?

But yes, Gerry is right on that point. I think we need to consider for a moment that a Blackmailable Justice is grounds to reject the appointment. If he is gay he's heavily closeted.

It would explain the Gitmo ruling (in addition to the quid pro quo) and explain better why * wants him Chief.

Personally, I think Chief Justice should be seniority based.

-Hoot

[maine_raptor]

33. Perjury requires that the lie be about a "material fact" in a case

The judge in Jones v. Clinton ruled President Clinton's testimony regarding Monica as not material, therefore the charge of Perjury did not apply. In the case of Clinton's impeachment, they use "lying under oath", a subtle difference I know, but an important one.

[hootinholler]

35. Thanks. So there was nothing legally wrong with

Getting head in the Oval?

I know it would be an irresistable thing to me were I to ever find myself President.

-Hoot

[smartvoter]

36. LOL!! nt

[maine_raptor]

37. As long as you don't have to testify under oath about it

and lie.

[maine_raptor]

38. Dupe, please delete

[Straight Shooter]

26. He could dress his robes up like Liberace and it wouldn't change things.

He's beholden to the corporations and his sexuality has nothing to do with that. He'll scrape and bow to them, just like he does to bush.

The man will never ever ever be on the side of anyone who isn't powerful.

[Octafish]

27. J Edgar Hoover was gay. And he was a fascist mastermind.

The Hoove and his constant companion and Number Two at the Bureau, Clyde Tolson, ate together every night, went on vaca together, and generally hated the super-hetero Kennedys.

It wouldn't be any of my business, but this greasy turd made it OK to be a NAZI.



More fun photos:

http://www.zpub.com/notes/hoover-photos.html

[alittlelark]

30. Perhaps someone could find him an irresistable stud with a

liberal agenda.....?

[mitchum]

31. So...he would just be ANOTHER homosexual fascist

there have been many of them

[maine_raptor]

34. For those thinking a "Gay" Roberts would make no difference on the Court

Consider this:

The job Roberts will hold is a LIFETIME one. He can only be removed via impeachment or death (or resignation). The position of Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court is the apex of the legal pyramid, there is no higher position for a person with a legal career.

Many individuals have gone into that position (Chief or Associate Justice) and have been liberated from past views. A good example of this is Earl Warren. He was a conservative Governor of California, was instrumental in getting the ball rolling of the internment of Japanese-Americans at the start of WWII (made the initial request to FDR), yet when he was appointed as Chief of the Court by Ike, he became one of the most liberal Supreme Court Chiefs ever.

The man might not make the robes, the sometimes the robes can make the man.

(I posted this on another thread, but it seems to fit here better.)

[Neshanic]

39. Great? He will be FABULOUS in his satin pink robe.

Prediction time.

He's not gonna make conservatives as happy as they think.

[Ms. Toad]

40. Nah,

It was a closeted gay judge who denied our second parent adoption. He was spotted in a gay club about 50 miles away (where he is known to be a regular) the day he issued the decision in our case.