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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:10 PM
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We're going to win this recall power grab
I just watched all the media sycophants trying to spin this and they are scared. The Dems are going to win and the right wing junta will lose.
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:12 PM
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1. God I hope you're right
but even if we win...we still will have lost. The Cali Dems have spent countless $$$, time and energy fighting for their lives on this one.

Republicans have to be stopped, plain and simple.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:12 PM
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2. Which media sycophants are you watching?
Fox or MSNBC?
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:13 PM
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4. I was watching CNN
but I watched the others a little last night. I think we are winning.
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flpeach Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:13 PM
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3. Cally . . .
I hope you're right!! It's time the tide turned!

I think they're going to have lots of problems counting the votes and I'll betcha the right-wingers move in just like they did in Florida.

We shall see. And soon!
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:46 PM
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17. i hope you're right too because i must attend a dinner wednesday
with 100 republicans.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:14 PM
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5. hmm...unless the voting machines are rigged
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 04:17 PM by protect freedom impe
dont have any faith in how the votes are counted.

no paper trail.
run by secret code
machines built & run run by rt-wing Repugs


I'm sorry.
BUT, ONLY by a landslide can a Democrat ever win again in USA.

the Octopus controls all.

the PNAC controls the voting machines with secret code.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:29 PM
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15. This will be a good test
If the recall loses NARROWLY we'll know they don't have the program up to speed yet. Remember if the two had been coordinated we wouldn't have had a recall until all counties went touchscreen; that hasn;t happened yet.

Our overnight polls show the No and yes votes DEAD EVEN and a slight edge in momentume going to NO.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:16 PM
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6. I agree!
But I am doubtful enough to be scared, nonetheless. The memories of November 2002 are too recent and too raw.

:scared:

--Peter
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:17 PM
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7. Thanks Peter
I appreciate your support!
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:20 PM
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8. I wish I could vote
God knows my vote here in Texas hasn't been worth anything since I moved here. I want to vote again where my vote counts! :grr:

--Peter
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:24 PM
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12. What happened in November 2002?
mean 2000?
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:25 PM
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13. November 2002
The GOP/Bushies took over full control of the government by winning back the Senate and retaining the House. Defeating wonderful Senators like Max Cleland and Walter Mondale and sullying the memory of Paul Wellstone in the process.

A dark day in American history.

:-(

--Peter
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:20 PM
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9. I hope you're right n/t
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:21 PM
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10. I think so--notice the pre-spin:
Here are some stories the whore media is putting out now:

It might not really be a good thing for President Bush if Arnold wins. (sour grapes)

The voting machines have no paper trail (shock shock!!!) and there might be a problem with the vote. (shift the blame)

It will take a long time for the winner to be certified so it would take a long time for the winner to actually become governor. (utter desperation sour grapes)
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:23 PM
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11. I wish I lived there just so I could vote NO to this nonsense.
I am keeping my fingers crossed for yinz guys and gals...
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:26 PM
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14. You're right, of course
Did you notice the media (ugh) had Arnold easily winning in the polls; then as the time drew near, they've got him even. Actually I believe Arnie is going to give a dismal performance. (I think Davis will remain).
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:30 PM
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16. I hope you're right, but fear you're wrong...
I haven't seen much that has been democratic or just in the last three years, forgive me if my confidence in the system is a little shaken.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:47 PM
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18. That would be so sweet if this backfires on the Repubs !
:)
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:50 PM
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19. Pass this around
My Free graphic at Take Back the Media, a picture tells a thousand words --

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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:53 PM
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20. I hope yer right but think yer wrong.
We'll all see, pretty soon...
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:54 PM
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21. The right wing junta will never lose.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:10 PM
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22. You've fallen into their trap
You've fallen into their trap of 'inevitability'. Classic Karl Rove propaganda. It is spin, pure and simple.

--Peter
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:31 PM
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23. Thanks for the support
Ummm, it's a :kick:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:40 PM
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24. However California goes ~ So goes the Nation
I hope you are right and I do believe you are. I believed we would gain seats in congress in 2002 also, so I don't trust my instincts anymore. I just find it very difficult to believe Californians to be so ignorant.
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