Bush & Co aren't incompetent. They've achieved most of their goals.

[Cyrano]

These people came into office with a specific agenda and they've accomplished most of what they wanted.

Their own (further) self-enrichment.

Controlling a huge portion of the world's oil resources.

Wiping out most taxes upon the wealthy.

Eradicating many of the accomplishments of FDR and LBJ.

Impoverishing the middle class.

Destroying worker's rights.

Castrating the capabilities and responsibilities of the federal government.

Demolishing the Bill of Rights.

Spitting on the United Nations.

Turning America into a fascist state ruled by ... them.

And all of that is just for starters. The scary part is that BushCo still has 3 1/2 more years in office. What do you think our country will look like by then?

A dark cloud has descended upon America. And I don't think we'll ever again be the beacon of democracy for the rest of the world.

[ClassWarrior]

1. Yup. We only damage ourselves when we call them stupid.

NGU.

[etherealtruth]

2. Sadly, true.

[wtmusic]

3. Would disagree they've gotten that far

Social Security privatization is toast. Controlling Iraq? Jury still out. Demolishing the Bill of Rights? They have their foot in the door.

Right now they're going nowhere very fast.

[ClassWarrior]

8. They're still criminal masterminds, even if they're not infallible.

They'd probably look at those losses as "costs of doing business."

NGU.

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[Inland]

4. Yep.

It's all a matter of the goals they set for themselves.

[Ready4Change]

5. Incompetent regarding service to the USA.

They are incompetent as far as serving and protecting this nation.

But, regarding serving themselves? Fully competent and highly focused. So, in essence, I agree.

[BlueJac]

6. That is Frightening.........

Jail them all, I just can't quit hating the ones who voted BushCo in 2004.

[melody]

7. I fear we'll have to fight a war to be rid of them completely

It's going to take fifty years and a Civil War, I'm afraid, before we have the nation we should have.

[Greenpeach]

9. Where do I sign up?

[Cyrano]

16. Reply to melody and Greenpeach.

Hi, Greenpeach. Welcome to DU.

The idea of another civil war in this country is insanity at best and suicide at worst. Think about (or read about, depending on your age) Kent State. Our government had no compunctions about killing unarmed college students who were doing nothing more than protesting.

And that was during a period when a majority of people were already onto the criminals running the government.

Bush & Co. have killed countless thousands of Iraqis, many of them women and children. These beasts have stolen our government, they have no consciences, nor do they care how many die or suffer while they consolidate their power and add to their wealth.

A civil war? They hold all the cards, as well as the propaganda mill. They own the voting machines too. For the time being, we are totally screwed. Too bad there's not another United States somewhere to come to our rescue.

[indepat]

10. And the MSM still shill, the Congress rolls, and the idolatrous thongs,

in number too large to comprehend, still chant: four more years, four more years.

[tnlefty]

13. Ha ha. Do you mean thRongs?

Throngs in thongs kinda has a certain ring to it.

[indepat]

19. Oops! Not long out of the hospital and it shows.

[cassiepriam]

11. They are evil geniuses....

and I am very afraid they will accomplish all their goals. No one, nothing has stopped them to date. Poll numbers do not matter to them in the least. (Actually I contend that the lower their poll numbers drop, the uglier Bush Co will get.) They have the power and they will use it to the very last minute they are in office. I hope to God that I am wrong.

[jokerman93]

12. You have my vote on these points

However, the stupid and incompetent assignations aren't necessarily wrong either. Ask Rumsfeld. The Iraq invasion was a miserable failure insofar as the mineral resources of the country have not been secured and a compliant puppet government hasn't been successfully installed. Rumsfeld's war strategy and military planning was and is shot through with fantasy and wishful thinking.

When Bush appointed unqualified toadies to many critical leadership positions in government, it was a successful strategy because the government isn't "supposed" to work. I believe the entire federal apparatus has already been undermined, gutted and looted by the Bushco pirates as per plan, but we're only now beginning to recognize the extent of the damage. Katrina has pulled back the curtain on far more than the sham Bush regime. In many ways, America's soul has been exposed - for better and worse.

Is George Bush an ignorant, pig-headed tyrant? Yes. Is that the same thing as stupid? Probably not. Cheney certainly isn't stupid and he seems to be just fine with how things have progressed so far. On the other hand, I'm starting to see Karl Rove as a predictable one-trick pony. Not the "genius" he's made out to be -- just a vicious, underhanded, manipulative mob handler. He doesn't seem to be able to change his tactics and that will be his downfall, I believe.

Which is all by way of saying, yes, I agree. On the whole, Amerika Inc. has done rather nicely for themselves so far, despite setbacks.

[WiseButAngrySara]

14. IMPEACH! How? K and R...Good post and good comments....n/t

[gulliver]

15. Competence at destruction is easy, but it is a form of ...

... competence.

We Dems should learn a lesson from it. The Republicans have sand castles too. A lot of Dem initiatives can be presented as destroying bad Republican plans.

We can "preserve the estate tax" or we can "destroy the Republican plan to give more treasury money to fat cats."

[Karenina]

18. They are not finished yet.

If you sincerely believe America to be the beacon of democracy for the rest of the world, I urge you to read Howard Zinn and Smedley Butler.

America's success in the ROTW is all about marketing myths. Katrina stripped them all bare.

America devolved into Amurikkka so very long ago. The "Industrial Revolution" did it. The robber barons and nazis have yet to be usurped. Sie ist, ehrlich gesagt, eine Dreckslüder. Thomas, Abe, Henry, Smedley, Dwight ALL weighed in on it and 35% of the population is now immunized, REFUSING TO HEAR IT or even recognize how profoundly and negatively their OWN lives are being affected by POLICY. They instead cling to the "policy" that white skin aligns one with those *elites who have openly published their intent to enslave, exploit and exterminate.

:DEEP SIGH:

[warrens]

20. You forgot "setting fire to the nation's economy and stealing the surplus"

Not to mention "start a stupid war to stimulate military spending"

[The Sleeper]

21. When the other side will do WHATEVER IT TAKES....

to "WIN", isn't it reasonable to assume that we must be prepared for this ? And,if necessary,to do the same as well ?