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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:58 AM
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:00 PM
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1. deep sigh
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Team44Car Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:14 PM
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2. hard to believe the number isn't higher
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 12:15 PM by Team44Car
been lots of battles and car bombs
over the last three weeks involving US
troops - where are the dead soldiers?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:33 PM
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:34 PM
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4. Hey, thanks for the sentiments.
Odd how that sounds *JUST* like the freepers ASSUME liberals think.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:37 PM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:38 PM
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8. and bush did not concentrate on Bin Ladin
when he was warned that was the highest security thraet to this country becuze Bush and his buddies need a cold war... for the Military Industrial complex to continue growing out of control.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:47 PM
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9. No, what makes you WRONG is...
that almost no one "go(es) over there to blow up innocent people". They signed up to afford an education, or because they couldn't find a job, or any number of reasons. They got put into an impossible position by an incompetent administration - there can be no blame put on our troops.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:35 PM
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5. oh I am surely looking forwards to
you going over there as a draftee, and it is comming... oh and don't expect a nice welcome to DU either... they did not sign for that but to defend and protect the constitution of the US from enemies both foreign and domestic. They did not sigh up to be used by a civilian leadership that just like you beleives they are toy soldiers.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:50 PM
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:25 PM
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13. and those bastards who wear the rank of
oh I don't know General and Lt. General (four and three stars) as well as the Under Secretary for Policy William Feith, the Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Sec Def Rumsfeld and President Bush convinced you that it was all just some bad apples? Buddy you have no clue what you are talking about, you have never served, it shows... but there is a truism even from Nuremberg, E-1 to E-3 don't face the music, for they only know how to say yes Sir No, Sir three bags full, the real responsibility starts at E-4 (why I have no problem with the trial of the Sergeant, he was an E-6 before they busted him to E-1), but I have yet to see them try the ones who gave the orders.

There is an old saying, if it has a rank salute it, even if it is a trashcan.

as to those bastards shooting some insurgents, that is the other thing you don't understand, if they shot those insurgent in a bona fide firefight, them insurgents wanted to kill them. It is a truism of war, men (and now women) die, and you can't change that. In order for the soldier to kill the enemy the soldier (or Marine) needs to stop thinking of that enemy as human... and even when they successfully do it, taking a life is not something they will forget, and something that in spite of all the bravado, that we expect, they will live with for the rest of their lives. That day, when they pulled that trigger a part of them died... that is why a nation SHOULD NEVER ask soldiers to do that on fictitious reasons and only in self defense.

Don't hate the troops, hate the officers and civilian leaders who gave those orders... yes Ricardo Sanchez, (theater commander at the time of Abu Graib) General Abizaid, his direct CO, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Bush, AG Gonzales, they are the cause of Abu Ghraib... what you think the troops, who grew up in an isolated region of Virginia, knew exactly what sexual poses would get them to talk? You surely kid me. And no, not taking any of their guilt away, but while you concentrate on Lindie England, you forget about those who GAVE the orders and belong in oh I don't know... the Hague?

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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:35 PM
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6. WOW
Somebody's Cheerios got pissed in this morning.


You've got some serious issues to work out johnimus
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:48 PM
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:09 PM
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12. wow
When we were on food stamps, croissoints were an unimaginable expense.

What state do you live in johnimus? Cause here, in Texas, if there's a man in the family, benefits are out of the question.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:48 PM
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14. You know at times I wished the freeper posts
were left on, to show the stupidity
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:03 PM
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15. Whatever it was, I'm glad I missed it.
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