Forced suicide bombers. This is terrible

[genieroze]

Iraq Suicide Bombers Say Al-Qaida Forced Them
Medical Evidence Indicates Man Telling Truth

POSTED: 11:37 am EDT September 19, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- A suicide bomber captured before he could blow himself up in a Shiite mosque claimed he was kidnapped, beaten and drugged by insurgents who forced him to take on the mission. The U.S. military said its medical tests indicated the man was telling the truth.

Mohammed Ali, who claimed to be Saudi-born and appeared to be in his 20s, said he managed to flee after another suicide attacker set off his bomb, killing at least 12 worshippers Friday as they left a mosque in the northern city of Tuz Khormato.

In confession broadcast on state television later that day, Ali told Iraqi interrogators he did not want to bomb the mosque and hoped to go home.

Results from medical tests on Ali were "consistent with his story and characterization of his treatment," Col. Billy J. Buckner, a U.S. military spokesman said Sunday.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/4991249/detail.html

[aquart]

1. Now they have to explain to him

why he can't go home.

No way he's going to tell that story and live.

[nickgutierrez]

2. Especially now that his name is all over the place.

Which, if nothing else, is the detail that puts this story in some doubt as far as I'm concerned, but that's another issue altogether...

[Spirochete]

6. I hope the ex-heavyweight champion

is well protected, just in case of mistaken identity.
But how do you force a suicide bomber? Doesn't seem like death threats would work very well...

[Totally Committed]

3. Self delete... wrong thread.

[applegrove]

4. Someone said that only the terrorist pilots on the 9/11 planes were shaved

(you shave when you are about to meet allah). So perhaps only the pilots knew it was a suicide mission.

Also the kids - all over palestine it is kids and young adults who have been goaded into becoming bombers. Apparently the'd approach some kids - goad them into saying they wanted to be marters (in front of friends what else are they going to say), kidnap one, train him for a few days and tell him his family would be hurt if he didn't complete the mission. Those young & old teens never saw their friends or their families again from the moment they were kidnapped.

What horror terrorists are.

[lumpy]

5. The word is goaded not goated.

z

[applegrove]

7. Thanks.

[Kazak]

8. Mohammed Ali resurfaces!!!

Sorry, I know this shit ain't funny.

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. I'm sorry, but this story reeks of urban legend material.

This is the sort of thing that immediately becomes part of the rw talk show cannon. It probably already has, most likely, the reporter first heard about this on a rw talk show.

[VOX]

11. "Forced suicide bombers," "rape rooms," "wood chippers," etc.

Expect to hear it. It's **perfect** RW fodder.

I googled the term, and it's already scattered throughout various RW blogs.

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. "public affairs officer"

I don't know why, but I would rather hear this kind of information and be inclined to believe it if it were from a less "interested" party.

[VOX]

10. "Col. Billy J. Buckner, U.S. military spokesman" = the anti-Baghdad Bob.

No offense to our military, but Col. Billy J. Buckner (is that name for **real?**) is just too full of what might be generously called "good news." Things are looking up, UP!

http://interestalert.com/remote/siteia/morenews.shtml?Sys=jameno123&Fid=WORLDNEW&St=Style8&Type=News&Title=World%20News

Col. Billy J. Buckner, a U.S. military spokesman, said Iraqi and U.S. troops had captured 211 terror suspects and confiscated nine weapons caches since Aug. 26 when the joint U.S.-Iraqi force began encircling Tal Afar, 260 miles northwest of Baghdad.

http://www.militarymoney.com/homefront/1101922244

Bridging The Cultural Gap
By Billy J. Buckner
<snip>
To help bridge this cultural gap, Army Community Services at Fort Bragg has established the Multicultural Readiness Program. A recent Awards Achievement Program ceremony honored women from Colombia, El Salvador, Germany, Italy, Japan, Kyrgyzstan, Mexico, Panama, Puerto Rico, Russia and South Korea.
<snip>
Col. Billy J. Buckner is public affairs officer, XVIII Airborne Corps, Fort Bragg, N.C

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/09/mil-050913-arnews01.htm

'Operation Restoring Rights' to secure Tal Afar
September 13, 2005
“Operation Restoring Rights is being conducted to remove terrorists and foreign fighters operating in Tal Afar,” said Col. Billy J. Buckner, spokesman for Multi-National Corps-Iraq.

“This operation is in support of the Iraqi government’s efforts to bring safety and security to the citizens of the city,” Buckner said. “The local government requested Coalition assistance in setting the conditions needed to establish permanent Iraqi security for the people of Tal Afar that will allow them to vote in upcoming elections.”

http://www.blackanthem.com/News/2005081509.html
"Abu Zubair’s death, as well as recent captures of terrorists in northern Iraq, is making a difference in Coalition and Iraqi Security Forces efforts to disrupt terrorists operating in this part of the country," said Col. Billy J. Buckner, spokesman for the Multi-National Corps. "Terrorists are doing all they can to stop the rise of a free Iraq, but their bombs and attacks have not prevented Iraqi sovereignty and they will not prevent Iraqi democracy," Buckner said.

[slampoet]

13. Has anybody linked this with the two British undercovers?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4822977

Has anybody thought of the possibly that if there are British agents posing as members of the resistance then if would make scence to link it with the story of forced suicide bombers?

[bemildred]

14. This is bullshit, is what it is. nt

[Cocoa]

15. "medical evidence indicates man telling truth"

:rofl: