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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:06 PM
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BBV OMG Lou Dobs now
covered the lack of paper trail for the electronic
machines....

WHOOHOOO!
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:07 PM
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1. I'm very suspicious about why the media is talking about this
the day before the recall when it looks like Arnold is going to lose.

I don't trust the media, especially CNN, at all.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:42 PM
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9. "it looks like Arnold is going to lose" - oh MAN from your keyboard to
God's ears!!!!!!

I was bracing for the opposite. Don't know if what's been reported about him will sink in, in time. But one can hope...
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:11 PM
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2. Ahhh, but there is always Mr. Dell's comment to deliver the election...
to the republicans. If Swartzengroper loses, it is still republicans who own the machines, they can't spin that! Any coverage on the lack of paper is good imo.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:13 PM
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3. Judy Woodruff defends the L.A. Times report on the Gropinator.
She says she read the women's story in detail and Lou got snitty with her. :wow:
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:15 PM
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4. Judy did that?!?
I'm going to faint.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:39 PM
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8. Women will come out of the woodwork to defeat the Gropinator.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:36 PM
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5. I've suspected, and now fear- the only way to get BBV to the masses
is if a Dem wins a big election (fair or otherwise). Only THEN will you see a mass-outpouring of info about voting machines...


think about it- the repubes rig the machines, but then end up losing anyway, what are they gonna do? Invalidate the results by FINALLY mentioning the machines' flaws...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:50 PM
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12. Fine by me...
...as long as the cover's blown before 2004.
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:37 PM
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6. I missed it!!!!
Arrggggggh!

Can someone who saw it give us a synopsis of what the piece was about? Did Dobbs pooh pooh the idea of paper ballots? Did he support it? Who were the guests? How was it presented?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:38 PM
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7. think it repeats later tonight
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:45 PM
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10. DEMActivist! Dobbs repeats at 11PM Eastern

means missing some Daily Show but, I missed it too!
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:53 PM
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13. Thanks nostamj!
I'll be watching.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:57 PM
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14. It wasn't much more than 1 sentence, really
and I heard it almost by accident. Maybe 2 sentences.

It just mentioned the touchscreen machines without paper trailes and the fact that "one professor from Stanford" (anyone we know? he wasn't named) says that any recount on these machines would be meaningless. That was it. "Meaningless" wasn't the word used, but that's the gist of what was said.

Perhaps this is a vote suppression attempt. Almost can't THINK of any other reason it would be on Dobbs.

Eloriel
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:48 PM
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11. A CNN promo bit I saw earlier today, I guess for the Dobbs piece,
seemed to lead with the 'lack of paper ballot' idea, and mentioned 10% (?) of voting machines being incapable of a recount since there is no paper.

:)
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:00 PM
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15. Yeah, that's a decent synopsis
"Incapable" wasn't the word -- more the idea that it would be invalid, not viable, etc., without an independent paper trail.

Eloriel
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