Do Clark, Kerry, Edwards Supporters understand what Clinton has Done?

[KoKo]

Clinton's incredible feel for timing has kicked in. He came out with his boxing gloves on at just the right moment..thereby overshadowing and stomping on the folks who were left to fight the fight for Dems when he abandoned Al Gore DURING the RECOUNT for 2000. (I understand that Gore distanced himself from Clinton during Campaign and why) but AFTER was when we Dems and Al REALLY NEEDED Clinton. He was popular in spite of Monica and he could have really helped us then and in the years after by pushing to get out what "really happened in Fla. with Katherine Harris).

So, Clinton appears with Evil Poppy then just a week or so later now is trashing Poppy's spawn.

What are we to make of this. Well, which Dems have been left "in the dust" by Clinton speaking out NOW?

How do supporters of Clark, Kerry, Edwards for '08 feel about this? Maybe my view is very dark and some of you are more hopeful? A Coalition? Hillary in and the rest get Cabinet Posts?

Lots of things to think about here, because the others allowed Clinton to DO HIS THING... Maybe they know what they are doing?

[garthranzz]

1. See Kerry's speech

posted on truthout.org.

[mctrotter5]

2. Dems have put their heads together and come out fighting!

[benburch]

3. How could they stop Clinton from doing what he wants?

And why should they?

Clinton is his own man.

[seabeyond]

4. i dont seeit that way koko. i think clinton was truly trying

to work with this adm. now i am not a fan of clinton, but i do watch and listen objectively. he has been trying hard to get the bickering and attacking out of the politics to bring in and allow more bipartisan. i think that is a big deal to his personality. i think he has been bothered with a lot of bush, but not letting go of the iraq war because it is so darn important we dont fuck it up. i think ultimately where clinton has come, is bush is hopeless and is going to continually fuck things up cause he is just so incapable. and he picked his time to speak out.

we all saw it much ealier. when does the person give up. we gave up on bush much sooner. he is just now giving up on him

no i dont see it the same as you how it effects kerry. i see kerry made that distinction in fall during the campaign. that bush was just hopeless worthless corrupt. he already took that step. i think clinton speaking out just fortifes and empowers the kerry's and boxers and conyers, instead of in the past, in clinton hopeful and optimistic of bush, weakened kerry boxer conyers.

i think it is good, a good development. i think it will empower the party. i think it is in tune with the majority giving up on bush. this nation, stupidly in my opinion has given bush chance after chance after chance.

i think this is taking care of any more chances. just gotta call it like it is. bush is a failure. has been all his life. bush is staying true to his pattern in life. failure

i think clinton finally admitted it out loud to the people.

kerry boxer conyers have been saying

[KoKo]

6. i did ask that and thank you for your great reply...a good read.

I'm open about this...politically. Morally I have REAL SERIOUS QUESTIONS.

But, politically it might be an "interesting" move. :shrug:

[madfloridian]

5. They are all coming out fighting.

I want to give Dean his due on this for speaking out on the factors of race, age, and economics 3 or 4 times on TV last week.

He said 3 or 4 times to push back the bankruptcy bill, slow the tax cuts for the wealthy, get FEMA back as its own agency.

The others are speaking out now, and I think it will start to get more media attention if they keep it up.

I think Clinton should let the others have their time to speak. He sort of stole the thunder from the great speeches and talks of Kerry and Edwards.

Sometimes I think what he does is fine, he needed to be critical. But he should not steal the limelight just because he can.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. Gore didn't want Clinton's help after the 2000 election. He wanted NOTHING

from the man. AND, I also think Clinton could have been pissed off at Gore for NOT using him during the 2000 election and probably thought, "YOU created this mess, now YOU can live with it." Spite from Bill and PRIDE from Gore? Maybe.

With that said, Clark has spoken out against this administration. He has spoken out about how BAD the Iraq war has been executed. MAYBE, just MAYBE what Clinton did was OPEN THE DOOR for Clark, Kerry and Edwards to feel free to speak out? IMCPO, that's exactly what he did do. By opening the door for Hill, it's now WIDE OPEN for everyone else. :) :hi:

[Bumblebee]

8. I actually read it as Clinton greenlighting it!

and now it's safe to attack Bush on everything if you are a timid Dem who trusts Clinton's political instincts.

[lancdem]

9. I think you may be right