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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:19 PM
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Freeper bashers needed
"Liberals hate blacks because we keep them dependent on welfare. Liberals, therefore are the racists."

This is the kind of mindlessness we are battling at http://www.perspectives.com/forums/view_category.php?id=1

Feel up to a good fight? We need some new arguments to stump the chumps.



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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:25 PM
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1. That's just stupid.
Ask them to show some concrete factual support of that statement. (Hint: They can't.)

I'm not wasting my time even reading their illogical garbage, let alone debating it.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:08 PM
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11. Agree completely.
Debating that bunch is a waste of time because they truly don't want to debate. Their only reply when someone challenges them is to smear and belittle the opposition. Heaven forbid they should even have to listen to an opposing view, let alone defend theirs or debate the issue on its merits.

If I ever find myself where I have to respond to such idiocy, I try to reply with as many big words as I can think of. They can't give an intelligent response to me anyway, and I may as well get the last laugh seeing them insulted without even knowing it!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:26 PM
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2. Really? I can always go for a good smackdown.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:36 PM
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3. Actually they got quite a few morons
from both sides of the aisle. Looks like people choose to fight fire with fire. Posters are fighting ignorance with ignorance on that site.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:38 PM
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4. I believe there are more white folks on welfare
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:40 PM
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6. And your point is?
What's the percentages? Are you fighting ignorance with ignorance?

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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:57 PM
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8. My point is that it is racist to assume that public assistance programs
are an institutional tool to keep African Americans dependent on the government, when the reality is people of all ethnicities receive welfare, including white people, who are the largest single recipient group, probably by a large margin. I don't know what the percentages currently are, and I don't care enough to look it up.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:01 PM
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9. Okay, have it your way
But you won't be winning anybody over by ignoring certain facts and only listing what best fits your perception.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:14 PM
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12. And which facts am I ignoring? eom
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:16 PM
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14. Percentages.
Like it or not they are key facts into any proper analysis.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:21 PM
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16. If someone wants to provide a proper analysis, then they are free to do so
I am content to revert to past reading on the subject that has shaped my perception. I know there are more white people receiving public assistance than any other group, but I do not know what the breakdown is. I am quite content with this.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:29 PM
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19. Apparently you refuse to come to terms with the facts
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 07:29 PM by TrueAmerican
Let's break this down.
What percentage of blacks are on welfare?
What percentage of whites are on welfare?
What percentage of hispanics are n welfare?


Just saying there are more whites on welfare than blacks is faulty logic.

If everything was equal in numbers of whites and blacks than John Kerry would be president. Because by your logic 90 percent of the black population voted for John Kerry and only 57 percent of the white population voted for Bush. This logic does not compute.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:40 PM
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5. I tried, honestly
But I just can't. I refuse to have a battle of wits with the unarmed.

They can't spell, can't get their facts straight and they just aren't worth it. Maybe I'll wake up extra ornery tomorrow;)
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:56 PM
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7. Honestly, I think your photo is "racist"
Please take a good look. What if someone posted a picture of some mentally impaired or "down" sydrome black men and label it with "Blacks Alert" Are those two in your picture really "freepers" or are they mentally impaired humans or have some other genetic disorder? Don't fight stereotypes with more stereotypes, it does your or our side any good.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:07 PM
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10. Legitimate arguments against gay marriage... I don't plan on joining
perspectives.com, but you might post....

If gays are allowed to marry, there will be small gangs of happily married gays roaming the streets and gang raping straight people. Thus turning the straight people into flaming homosexuals!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:16 PM
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13. Gawshk, I never heard that one before
Stupid freeps.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:19 PM
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15. Maybe I'll swing by
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:23 PM
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17. Check this nut out
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/wdhopinion/303309263892041.shtml

Don't blame Bush for high gasoline prices


Democrats around the country continue to show their true colors - Christian bashing, military bashing, undermining our war on terror and passing the buck on high gas prices.

The question is, how many of their constituents are listening?
Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean called Republicans nothing but a bunch of white Christians who don't know how to make an honest buck....
...I think it's time for Democrats to start paying attention and get their facts straight....

Truly unbelievable what these people think, it makes you wonder how they get through the day on such little brain power.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:24 PM
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18. They seem to eat their extra bowl of stupid every morning. nt
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:00 PM
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23. I love to ask people like him to explain
Christian military people who bush bash.

It makes their little headsies explode. BOOM.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:30 PM
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20. Do we hate whites too?
After all , whites make up a higher percentage of those on welfare then do blacks.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:33 PM
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21. Ask lynettebro440...
Man, she's on a freeper-bashing roll!!! She will tear them a new one for you! :rofl:
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:54 PM
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22. Will do
You don't have to commit, just when you wanna slap some freeper idiots. Feel feisty? Come when you can.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:13 PM
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24. How the hell do you "keep" someone on welfare?
The logic of the common Freeper astounds me. I'm amazed they are smart enough to operate a door, let alone a computer.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:28 AM
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25. Re: Howard Dean..Republicans are the ones keeping them poor
Think about it..South consistantly votes Republican and yet they are among the poorest states in the nation.
From Howard Dean: "The idea that we should write off Texas or Mississippi is ridiculous. We need to be down there, and we need to be making our case. How are you going to get somebody to vote for Democrats if hardly any of them are running? We need to make the progressive case. White, Southern voters are the most abandoned people in America right now. They keep voting for these right-wingers who go up and stick it to them. Their college tuitions go up, their health insurance -- if they have health insurance -- that goes up, their jobs go to Mexico. White voters in the South ought to be voting Democratic, because that’s their economic interest. That’s why the Republicans always talk about guns, God, gays and abortion instead of health care, education, jobs and a moral foreign policy. Because they lose on those issues, and they win on divisive issues." http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2004/10/09_405.html

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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:50 PM
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26. Now here is where the Freepers really get Orwellian
No matter how many times I've pointed out the facts, Freepers claim that the GOP of today is still the party of Lincoln, and make much over the fact that the Solid South went Democratic after the Civil War and stayed so (thus the constant insults about "sheets" Byrd)until the 60's. They love to conflate "Democratic" as Liberals when it suits their purpose.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:51 PM
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27. Before joining DU, I did a lot of this. As soon as you post a fact with a
link they drop the conversation and start it all over again later like you never stuck them.

Waste of time, in my opinion.

But it can be theraputic...
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