What was Joe Klein's (Time magazine) stance on the war?

[Bouncy Ball]

I mean back before it started and when it first started.

I never pay to read mainstream media muck, but I bought the latest issue of Time today because I knew my husband would find it interesting, and I read the pretty negative piece by Klein, whom I could have sworn was a war rah-rah person back in the day. Now he's saying it probably was a mistake from the beginning.

I'm sitting there thinking "YOU THINK?????"

But I'm not sure if he was a supporter at first or not. Does anyone who follows him regularly know?

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On a different note, I kept a column by George Will (asshole) written in February of 2003, during the build-up/pull the wool over people's eyes phase. He gave his readers a history lesson, which he loves to do (that or baseball, the guy's only got two formulas for a column), and this one was on how the inspectors thought Germany didn't have the kind of weaponry that would be needed to start another war after WWI. Obviously that turned out to be wrong, as they had plenty when WWII was started. He used that as a basis to argue that Hussein probably had just tons and tons of WMDs he was hiding away, thus we needed to invade Iraq.

Ahem.

I am saving it to write a little letter to him, hand-written, so I can include a copy of the article in the envelope and ask him how he feels about that argument now.

Tool. Dick.

[NNadir]

1. Can you give us an excerpt. Did it have info about the "cakewalk?"

George Will is completely ignorant of history. I email him every once in a while, when I find myself forced to read his column because trapped in some strange toilet stall somewhere with only his column to read.

[Bouncy Ball]

3. An exerpt from the Will column?

WASHINGTON--Disarmament by weapons inspectors was not going well.

The defeated nation had agreed to disarmament verified by the victors, even though it had not been occupied or its capital captured. Especially destructive weapons were proscribed. But the nation had experience evading compulsory disarmament. It mounted guileful resistance to inspectors, and citizens tempted to be helpful were intimidated. Plant inspections were denounced as commercial espionage, and impeded. The resisting government insisted that potential ``dual use'' technologies, and materials that could be precursor elements for proscribed weapons, were merely for civilian uses. (An explosion that killed 11 in a chemical factory revealed the continuing production of chemical weapons.) There were endless controversies about what war materials had existed at the time of the armistice. (Six hundred 105-millimeter gun barrels were found behind a factory's secret walls.) The government's liaison officers gave advance warnings to people at sites to be inspected. Arms were secretly shuffled from one depot to another.

This was weapons inspection in Germany after World War I.

The victors vowed to destroy German militarism using 337 inspectors in a country that then was about the size of today's Iraq. The numerical results were: 7,000 factories placed under supervision, 33,384 cannons destroyed, 37,211,551 artillery shells destroyed, 87,240 machine guns destroyed, 920 tons of poison gas cylinders destroyed.

German militarism was not destroyed.

[NNadir]

5. Neither, apparently was Iraqi militarism but we did create Iraqi militancy

Thanx for the excerpt.

What a dickhead.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. You might include a recipe or two for Mr. Will.

Specifically:
Crow a l'orange.
Crow Kiev.
Crow pot pie.
Crow a la king
Crow Wellington.
Crow medallions.
Crow etouffee.
Crow cacciatore.

[Bouncy Ball]

4. Excellent idea.

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