Do we really need the South in order to win in 2008?

[RethugAssKicker]

Becuase if we do, we're fucked... The south is never going to vote democratic.. The republicans have the south locked up completely!

Does anyone have any figures and or strategies to win without the South?

[Xithras]

1. No South = No White House

North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Texas have 140 electoral votes between them. That's HALF of the total required to win!

In fact, I have to point out that the last Democrat to win the Presidency who WASN'T southern was John F Kennedy. Every Democratic President since...including Al Gore...hailed from a southern state. Every Democratic candidate from a northern or western state lost by wide margins.

[yurbud]

2. How do states with so many black people go GOP?

[KingFlorez]

3. We need a 2 or 3 southern states to win

Louisiana and Arkansas can possibly swing to our column if we work hard. Georgia and Florida are more of long shots, but they should be in our strategy.

[Beetwasher]

4. No, The Dems Can Have A Western Strategy And Win W/Out The South

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[Raiden]

5. No, no, no!

Although it would be nice to pick up some Southern States, it is not essential to win the White House. Kerry would have won the White House with all the states he had if he had just carried Ohio (which he did--don't let Blackwell and Diebold fool you). The Southern States, although they look bigger on a map, have roughly the same amount of EV's that the NE has, so it all evens out.