A Bible verse to show the Christian fundies

[FreedomAngel82]

We all know how the Christian fundies love to judge people all the time and call people unclean etc. because they are gay or don't believe like they do. I was looking through the scriptures for some other purpose and I found this verse that you can tell them. It's Acts chapter ten verse twenty-eight with Peter. He says, "28He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean."

Even God is against predjudice.

[sarcasmo]

1. WWFSMD

[Canuckistanian]

8. Ramen, brother

May his Noodliness smile upon you.

[acmejack]

12. FSM hits the bigtime!

[ClintonTyree]

15. Ramen to you, fellow pastafarian!

The FSM's legions are growing. I'm still having a little trouble agreeing with the FSM's choice of a midget, but I guess that's what blind faith is all about. Either you believe or you don't.

I BELIEVE!

Damn it! Now I HAVE TO order one. I wouldn't want to incur the wrath of the FSM, I'm not nuts you know! :silly:

[MindPilot]

2. oh sure you find the one thing in the bible that isn't about

killing fags, wife-beating or getting rich, so you take it out of context to make it sound like that is what Christianity is all about. :sarcasm:

[AnyoneButBush2000]

7. eh?

That's not in my bible! Can you tell me where to find that?

[JuniperLea]

10. Acts 10:28

[sarcasmo]

17. WWFSMD

[JuniperLea]

21. Ok, I give up

What does WWFSMD mean?

[ClintonTyree]

25. What Would the Flying Spaghetti Monster Do..........

you are just SO out of it! ;)

[JuniperLea]

23. Hit reply, light goes on

Ok, I get it:) That noodly dude slays me:)

[ArbustoBuster]

26. WWFSMD

In case anyone else is wondering: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster . :)

[MindPilot]

13. ain't in mine either--but then I'm not good at interpreting

Ask Pat, Fred, or Jerry; apparently all that stuff is in theirs.

[liberal N proud]

3. But that one isn't needed in the smorgasbord of Christianity

You only need to use the ones that apply to your needs today.

:sarcasm:

[triguy46]

31. Proof texting is done by both sides...

and by doing so, both evade more true and deeper meaning.

[StellaBlue]

4. How 'bout

"If a man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness, he has discovered her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from her people." (Leviticus 20:18)

or

"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

or

"But if ... evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21)

or

"One of illegitimate birth shall not enter the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:2)

or

"Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her as a covering." (1 Corinthians 11:13-15)

or

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. " (1 Peter 2:18)

and, my personal favorite:

"But if ... evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21)

[FreedomAngel82]

14. All of them except for First Peter were the Old Testament

Christians don't follow the Old Testament. We're Christians because we follow Christ who is in the New Testament. My preacher very very very rarely uses the old testament. If he does it's to reference back to something and every once in a while he'll showcase someone (such as Job) to make a point about something but it's pretty rare. Also with First Peter chapter one you have to look at all of the verses. You can't pick and choose or it can be manipulated (the main reason why I am against politics and religion mixing). Here is also something from First Peter chapter one: 1Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. 12Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.

[StellaBlue]

27. So, in your understanding and practice

Christianity does not find the Old Testament relevant? To Christian morals or doctrines?

[StellaBlue]

32. Okay, how 'bout

WORDS OF JESUS

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

or

Matthew 8:32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

or

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

or

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched... 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

or

Mark 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
19:28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

or

OTHER NEW TESTAMENT CRAZINESS

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

or

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (so God causes us to be deluded so he can damn us to eternal torment...?)

or

Matthew 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

or

Luke 2:23 As it is written in the law of the LORD, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord.

or

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

or

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.15:23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

or

Mark 7: 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death. (Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. See Ex.21:15, Lev.20: 9, Dt.21:18-21)

[meow2u3]

38. Another Biblical passage against passing judgment: Romans 1-11 (NAB)

1 Therefore, you are without excuse, every one of you who passes judgment.
2 For by the standard by which you judge another you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the very same things.
We know that the judgment of God on those who do such things is true.
3 Do you suppose, then, you who judge those who engage in such things and yet do them yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God?
4 Or do you hold his priceless kindness, forbearance, and patience in low esteem, unaware that the kindness of God would lead you to repentance?
5 By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God,
6 who will repay everyone according to his works: 3
7 eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works,
8 but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness
9 Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek.
10 But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek.
11 There is no partiality with God.

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/romans/romans2.htm

[ClintonTyree]

29. So,using those quidelines, christ's birth would exclude him.....

from entering the congregation of the lord. Interesting.

[Extend a Hand]

5. here is another one they skip...

if the followed this verse you would think that they would have to actually support environmental issues. And yet they don't.


Rev 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Yes

God teaches us to take care of our home. It's the only one we'll ever have. In Genesis he tells Adam to take care of the animals and be fruitful and take care of the planet as well. If we don't then who will? You can't just not care. The Earth needs our love and attention.

[sarcasmo]

19. Well you bible thumpers sure don't follow those teachings. WWFSMD

[SteppingRazor]

6. These are good anti-fundie verses too:

Matthew 6:5-6 --

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. "

So much for televangelists.

Also, I like pointing out all the other abominations -- eating shellfish, etc. -- that go along with Leviticus 18:22 (the anti-gay justification, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. ). Check out Leviticus 11:12 -- "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. "


Guess what? If you've eaten shrimp recently, you're just as bad as a gay man. Whoops!

[StellaBlue]

9. From www.fallwell.com (GREAT site)

An "abomination?"

Fundamentalists also like to use Leviticus 18:22 to justify their anti-gay prejudice. That verse says, "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination." Perhaps you have heard some people refer to gay people as an "abomination." They get the idea directly from Leviticus 18:22. But did you know...

The Bible says that eating shrimp and lobster is an abomination:
"But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

"They (shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination." (Leviticus 11:11)

"Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales; that shall be an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:12)

[SteppingRazor]

11. Good site -- I just pulled my Bible quotes out o' my ass...

After 10 years of Catholic school, the last two of them spent as a raging, seething atheist, I've gotten to know the Bible As Ammunition Against Believers pretty well.

For the record, I'm currently an agnostic. I think being an atheist takes just as much faith as being a believer, and I can't bring myself to have faith in anything. :nopity:

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Exactly!

Later though Peter has a dream that deals with that. I'll show that too. Acts chapter ten verses nine through twenty-three:

9About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

14"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

15The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."

16This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.

17While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon's house was and stopped at the gate. 18They called out, asking if Simon who was known as Peter was staying there.

19While Peter was still thinking about the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Simon, three men are looking for you. 20So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them."

21Peter went down and said to the men, "I'm the one you're looking for. Why have you come?"

22The men replied, "We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to have you come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say." 23Then Peter invited the men into the house to be his guests.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. Thanks for the site

I could always use help. :) How sad of the story he told. :( They would shock people?!?!? My God...

[FreedomAngel82]

20. LOL

I'll have to remember that one. :)

[Alpharetta]

24. The Bible is crazy hellbent on war and destruction

The fundies found plenty of verses in 2003 to support war and the invasion of Iraq.

But you know how fundies cherrypick Koran quotes to say Islam theology is a problem because it's hellbent on violence? The fundies can't imagine anyone pointing to those same verses they used in 2003 and stating gee, the Bible sure is war-crazy.

[StellaBlue]

28. ?!

:crazy:

[Alpharetta]

34. I'm just saying you can build your own religion out of the Bible

or the Koran.

You could take the Bible and make it OK to invade any country that eats shrimp.

Or you could take the Bible and make it a sin punishable by death to ever own a gun.

[triguy46]

30. Don't confuse the two...

Even Satan can quote scripture. Its one thing to relate what fundies "say", but another to cast the Bible as a book of evil.

Look, the problem with both sides is what is called "proof texting." This means, simply yanking a scripture out of the Bible that supports your position and saying, "See, right here, it says ..." It may be a fun game, but does little to offer any real insight or direction.

[StellaBlue]

33. As for myself

I don't think the Bible is a book of evil.

It's just a book. That's all. Like My Pet Goat.

[Alpharetta]

35. I don't think it's a book of evil. Or "just a book"

I think it's a great book of spiritual value, often misused.

[StellaBlue]

37. You're entitled to your opinion

But, having read it cover to cover more than once,

I don't think it's so great. There are better, more inspiring books out there, IMHO.

It's a fascinating cultural artifact, though, and, yes, it does contain many truths about human nature and the human condition.

[pepperlove]

39. See?

I have read it kivver to kivver a number of times myself and wow, I love it and believe it to be the undeniable Word of God.

That's what makes this ol' world go round. To each his own.

[StellaBlue]

40. Good for you

I just don't see how anyone could come to that conclusion, though.

Peace. :)

[Toots]

41. Isaiah 32 :5-8

:+

[StellaBlue]

43. Uh... okay

Not sure who that was directed at or why, but it doesn't prove the Bible is the 'word of God', so... irrelevant.

On a related note, I love how Christians try to justify the Bible WITH the Bible. hahaha

[pepperlove]

44. That is the BEST way

to justify it. It speaks for itself so plainly once you know Christ.

[StellaBlue]

47. .

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:puke:

[BiggJawn]

36. But the Fundies only believe Leviticus and Revelations.

Oh, and John 3:16, too, but all the parts about "Blessed are..." and "Judge Not..."?

Naw, what's the fun of THOSE parts when you can stay with the stoning and judging of people....

[pepperlove]

42. Only God can judge

but He sure can expose the fruits for us to know... (no pun intended). ;) But... then we are to love them anyway... and pray for them ...

[Meatwad]

45. I have one for the fundies to read: The whole goddamn Bible!

From front to back...and they have to take notes on EVERYTHING Jesus says/preaches/does.

Maybe, just maybe, they'll understand what He's all about.

[sam sarrha]

46. as Bibles go you might as well use a Ouiji Board..