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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:13 PM
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A Scathing Look at What's Really Happening in New Orleans:
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 05:26 PM by newswolf56
The more affluent, mostly white residents are coming back. The poorer, mostly African-American neighborhoods are still under water. How New Orleans deals with its less fortunate residents will determine the new face and politics of this city.

(cut)

Despite all the chaos and destruction, the storm and the floods came with a silver lining for people like Shellnut. "Most importantly, the hurricane drove poor people and criminals out of the city," he says, "and we hope they don't come back."

(cut)

...If Mayor Ray Nagin's ambitious plan to bring back 200,000 residents within two weeks is successful, a city that was once a majority African-American city will have turned into a mostly white city.

And (after this cut) the bottom line:

...The storm could very well present a golden opportunity for the Republicans in this city. As the wealthy return and the poor stay away, they could easily assume power in a once heavily Democratic New Orleans -- a tremendous coup for the Republican Party...

The rest of this infinitely damning report is here:

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,375496,00.html

Once again, to find out what is REALLY happening in our country, we have to turn to the foreign press.



Edit: better, more telling headline.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:17 PM
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1. Interesting but..
Germany treats its Arab "underclass" like absolute trash. Then there is that little NeoNazi problem.

They live in a glass house and are tossing boulders.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:20 PM
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2. how many germans died in the heat wave of 2003?
pot, meet kettle.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:22 PM
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3. exactly.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:25 PM
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5. Lets worry about our own problems
We have our own neo-nazi problem.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:31 PM
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7. That would be the Turkish people who suffer most discrimination there
Their Nazis and facists are pretty out in the open, but marginalized, whereas here they inhabit the airwaves, are at the highest reaches of gvt and wear a moderate cloaking- mainstream in other words, all because we have deluded ourselves into thinking because of our professed ideals we couldn't possibly have anything to answer for. At this stage of things from all we have seen of late: torture, killing of innocent civilians in Iraq, deep gvt corruption, and the racist response to Katrina we can't expect there not to be justifed criticism from people overseas. All that breastbeating and flagwaving, "were No. 1" has opened us up to it when we fall pitifully short of our proclaimed superior status.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:47 PM
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9. I am going to agree
that we have held ourselves up on a pedestal for a long time and we didn't deserve to be there. That is personally the hardest thing for me to deal with.. the shame where I used to feel pride.

However, I have also known a bit of realism. My father-in-law is a German who was held in an English POW camp during WW II. He was severely beaten by Americans and had his teeth kicked out.

Now, eventually he decided he preferred that to going back to Germany where he had had to hide his Jewishness since childhood.

But Germany just doesn't have the moral superiority to be quite so smug, in my opinion.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:27 PM
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20. This explains A LOT of things
"...all because we have deluded ourselves into thinking because of our professed ideals we couldn't possibly have anything to answer for."

:patriot:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:24 PM
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4. Amazing. Racism shows it's ugly little face all over NO
And some thought it was dead.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:26 PM
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6. Well, no matter how rich and white they try to make NO,
all those rich people need service people who work for them or the businesses who cater to them. So, that means the poor people will be needed to fill those jobs.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:48 PM
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10. African Americans make New Orleans what it is
from the street performers to the Marcellus (sp) jazz family, to the 'second line' at Mardi Gras, to the Zulu parade, to the jazz funerals, to the overall feel of the city, not to mention those who work in the support services.....those people MAKE New Orleans what it was/is, and if they are successful in excluding them, then New Orleans is truly dead, deader than a door nail.

I absolutely love that city. I spend a lot of time there. I've loved it since the first time I set foot in it in 1959.

There is no other city in the U.S. like New Orleans.

These racist pigs saying things like those in the original post, if they have their way, will turn New Orleans into some fricking Disney World fake land and will utterly destroy it.

I hope the whitey assholes quoted are simply farting in the wind, because if their wish comes true, this country will have lost a jewel
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:05 PM
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13. Those African Americans like the Marcellus' will return and
the others that give the city it's unique flavor will follow. Also, the service people who work for the rich white people also need the secondary business that they use, the eateries, bars, churches, entertainment venues. These will all return.

Because as much as rich white people like to have their gated, country club communities to themselves, they still find they have to let in the gardeners, nannies and maids. Their country clubs, restaurants and shopping areas need people to work in them. Those workers need businesses that take care of their needs.

So, no matter what kind of a utopian white paradise the Bushbots try to make for themselves, it's just not possible.
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RedRocco Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:37 PM
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23. service workers
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 08:38 PM by carolinarocco
"Because as much as rich white people like to have their gated, country club communities to themselves, they still find they have to let in the gardeners, nannies and maids. Their country clubs, restaurants and shopping areas need people to work in them. Those workers need businesses that take care of their needs."

nope, they will probably do like they do on Hilton Head, exclude the black people from living there (by pricing them out of the housing market) and have them bused in. On Hilton head the average service worker rides 1 1/2 hours, one way, from Beaufort to get to their $6 an hour job.

edited 'cause the quote tag doesnt work
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 09:22 PM
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24. Well, all I can say is, let them clean their own toilets. n/t
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:44 PM
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8. Note how a couple of the above posts reject the truth of this report...
merely because it is published by a major German news outlet. Never mind this disclosure is essentially the same truth being reported by the Black Congressional Caucus. Trouble is -- even if the same ugliness were reported by a mainstream U.S. newspaper -- I have no doubt it would be similarly rejected. (The post-Katrina polls already prove America is in total denial about the toxic depth and malevolent intensity of its racism -- and will do virtually anything to keep this terrible secret swept under the rug.) Which is precisely why I posted this link: the foreign media will cover stories our own media dare not touch.

Censorship -- whether imposed by American media's fear of its corporate masters or by its equal (and sometimes greater) fear of enraged, xenophobic readers -- is still censorship.

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:53 PM
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11. I believe it is all true
and then some. I only question the whole concept (admitedly unspoken in this forum at this time) that Europe is somehow morally superior because of their diversity, progressive policies, yada, yada.

I say good for them. That's nice. But nobody has cornered the market yet on human rights, particularly a country that the dark 20th Century these folks have.

It just struck me as wrong.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:52 PM
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19. FYI (and in the spirit of reconciliation) here is another vital link...
on the subject, this by Paul Krugman from The New York Times but nominally available only to the "Select" elite willing (or able) to pay $50 per year for an Internet subscription. This link is to the Krugman archives, which circumvents NYT's elitist censorship and was thoughtfully provided by DUers Charlie and Highplainsdem:

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/091905.html

The Spiegel report read in the context of Krugman's analysis is especially damning.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:34 PM
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22. Aside from the undeniable superiority of
Norway :evilgrin:

another aspect of the perception of Europe is they don't have a strangulated press/media and pablumized/zombified public as the U.S. does. They get the news (about the US) that Americans don't.

:hi:
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:08 PM
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15. The French TV is reporting such things, too. On TV5 tonight they have a
special scheduled on the Katrina mess. It's not enough to talk about how other nations have fallen short of our or their standards. It's infuriating to some but I am way past feeling that way, I guess living through the Vietnam period made that and now this has reinforced it. I have not experienced the smugness mentioned here, I have experienced the surprise and shock Europeans express at what has been happening and it's not possible to argue with it.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:02 PM
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12. They will be in for a rude awakening if this really happened
This reminds me of when I lived in San Antonio in the 1970's and someone was complaining about all the Mexicans there. I said that the city would be just another drab Texas city if not for the vibrant Hispanic culture there.
New Orleans would be nothing without the African/American and Cajun culture. A lot of the businesses would be gone. New Orleans would be just another drab southern city.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:08 PM
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14. Boy that's the truth. What would San Antonio be without
the tradition of Las Posadas and the other Mexican events. I sat at the Riverwalk one Sunday afternoon watching the entertainment. It was all Mexican, from the Mariachis to the dancers and others who were there to entertain the tourists.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:36 PM
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18. I agree!
I loved my short time there. Unfortunately, it was during the late stages of the Vietnam war when my husband was stationed at Ft Sam Houston. ( We did get a whole week off when LBJ died and got to go to his ranch and visit )I don't know if San Antonio is still as beautiful but it was just wonderful when I was there.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:20 PM
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16. This is very difficult for me to read. I feel rage coming on again!!!
This same sort of drivel was printed in an article in the WSJ last week (I think). I can't mention what I hope happens to people who are serious about this without getting into trouble, but I hope that it happens to them within the next 2 years. I also wish it upon the people who dreamed this up, invest in it, and participate in it.

In other words, fuck the gentrification of New Orleans.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:22 PM
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17. Check out indymedia.org as well!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:30 PM
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21. I was gobsmacked in the Haunted Mansion speech when W called 'em
"OPPORTUNITY ZONES"

(I would ask "how cynical ARE these people, but um, we already know that-- that's also why some of us have been INSISTING on an American/DU Reality Check for the Katrina Wake Up Call)

:kick:
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 11:23 PM
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25. this sounds more and more like sun city, south africa in the 80's...
Sun City
The Glitter of Apartheid

Sun City is a $90 million pleasure resort stuck into the vast rural poverty of Bophuthatswana. It plays a significant part in the South African effort to break out of its isolation and win back foreign favor. The large complex includes an artificial lake, a casino, soft porn movies, discotheques, and scantily clad chorus girls. Near by, the Pilanesberg game reserve was created for the tourists' delight by evicting 100 families from their homes. And there is the Superbowl, a large auditorium that regularly features big name international entertainers.

The Superbowl was opened by Frank Sinatra, who was paid $1.6 million for a nine day stand. Performances by US entertainers and athletes any- where in South Africa are very controversial. Anti- apartheid organizations and the United Nations have long advocated a cultural and sports boycott of South Africa. When Ray Charles went in 1981 he was forced to cancel his performance in the black township of Soweto because of strong opposition from the community. US performers who have defied the boycott have come home to criticism and picket lines.

Artists going to Sun City justify themselves by claiming on the one hand that they are not political and on the other that they are not performing in South Africa but in an independent country. They choose to ignore the fact that Bophuthatswana's in- dependence is entirely unrecognized outside South Africa and is rejected by the majority of South Africans.

The big bucks have drawn well-known American stars to Sun City. These include Millie Jackson, Cher, The Beach Boys, Glen Campbell and Linda Ronstadt.

Audiences are not officially segregated at Sun City. But the cost of the more expensive tickets often makes this the de facto reality. Liza Minelli performed her opening night to a crowd of 4,500 people, of which about 200 were black. There was only one black face in the most expensive seatsthe rest were high up in the auditorium in seats that sold for $13.00. And Southern Sun, which owns the hotel, admitted to giving tickets to blacks free. It does this not out of generosity but so that artists do not per- form to all-white audiences. "I don't mind about anything except that I'm playing in front of mixed audiences," said Liza Minelli, ignoring the fact that by performing there she was helping apartheid score propaganda points.

Sun City, sometimes called Sin City, exists as it does largely because of the apartheid fiction of independence. Laws in South Africa which make it illegal to gamble or for a black and white to have sex together do not apply in Bophuthatswana. It is not unusual for white men to come to Bophuthatswana to do what they cannot do in Johannesburg. This has led to a growth in prostitution. Apologists for Sun City suggest that this inter-race mixing will lead to changed attitudes of whites and thus to change in South Africa. But white men can go home to Johannesburg while black women must stay in the poverty of Bophuthatswana, and to suggest that casual integrated sex and black access to slot machines will break down the structures of apartheid is an insult to the long and costly struggle blacks have waged against the oppression of minority rule. Because Sun City helps camouflage the reality of that rule, it does far more damage than good to the people of Bophuthatswana.

The fact is that Sun City is controlled by political and economic interests that are part and parcel of apartheid. The Bophuthatswana government, which would not exist if it were not for apartheid, holds a minority interest in the resort, as do a number of South African companies.

Blacks who work in Sun City have complained that they are paid less than whites who do the same jobs, and that some jobs are reserved for whites only. Seven black employees who complained to management about these conditions in March 1983 were tired and evicted from their homes which were owned by Sun City.

Not all performers have succumbed to the large sums offered to perform at Sun City. There is a growing list of those who have refused lucrative contracts, including Tony Bennett, Ben Vereen, Gladys Knight and the Pips, Eiton John, Roberta Flack, The Kool (Newport) Jazz Festival and the Harlem Globetrotters. John McEnroe has twice refused million dollar offers to play in Sun City. As protests mount against those who do go to Sun City, the ranks of those who choose conscience over dollars will also surely grow.

http://richardknight.homestead.com/bophuthatswana.html
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