Weird. Clark's voice sounds very similar to Bush's?

[StrongBad]

Listening to the Town Hall meeting. Maybe its because I'm from the north and all southern accents sound homogenized to me, but if I close my eyes and just listen to Clark speak, he sounds eerily similar to Bush.

Of course this doesn't take away my admiration for him, but does everybody else hear a resemblence?

[hedda_foil]

1. You're right.

Someone mentioned this a week or so again, but they do share a certain vocal timbre.

[cavebat2000]

2. lol

[virtualobserver]

4. have you ever seen Bush and Clark in the same room?

I never have....makes you wonder.

[JohnKleeb]

5. lol

[StrongBad]

7. I challenge a tin-foil hatter to come up with a grand conspiracy

[Pastiche423]

9. OMG!

[JohnKleeb]

13. *coughs bio expirements* kidding around

but seriously lol that was funny.

[Carmerian]

43. As a Texan, I find this subject interesting

Last year on another message board, I mentioned that I thought *'s accent was odd. Although he is supposedly from west Texas and should have a drawl, he instead has an east Texas twang. I'm still trying to figure out why.

Anyway, several weeks ago, before Mr. Clark declared his candidacy, I was searching the web trying to find something so I could hear what the man sounded like. I had counted on him having some deep, sonorous Ike-sounding voice. I finally found an interview of him by Diane Rheem, and listened to it. I have to say my heart sank as I listened, because I thought the timbre of his voice sounded just like *'s.

Since many people here are noticing this, it's only a matter of time before the public does, too. Perhaps it would be best to have a reply handy when you hear someone mention it: "Yeah, he sounds like Bush - with an extra 100 IQ points" :)

[libertad]

3. I didn't notice it when I watched him on TV, but when I heard him on NPR

National Public Radio, I thought they sounded identical. It was really weird!

[nannygoat]

59. Maybe, except that Clark's first language is English

* is the first pResident where English is his second language (or third?).

[libertad]

63. so true!

It is apparent by the content of his speech that he is in no way impaired like our current pResident.

[Pastiche423]

6. You are the second person

I've heard say that. It was the very 1st thing I thought of when I heard him.

Although I have lived the majority of my life on the left coast, I was born in the south and know southern accents.

[JohnKleeb]

Ive been hearing about this too

I havent heard him ever.

[JohnKleeb]

10. Ive been hearing about this too

I havent heard him ever.

[ronzo]

8. There is a similarity...

But, the tip off is that Wes knows how to pronounce nuclear and strategy.

[laruemtt]

11. sheesh! wes's vocabulary is like

10,000 times that of chimpie. i don't hear it in the voice. clark's too intelligent sounding for smirk to be anywhere in the equation.

[libertad]

14. I believe he is highly intelligent and has no similarity to the chimp, but

their voices do sound exactly alike on the radio. The only way you can tell it isn't the chimp is because he's speaking rationally and coherently.

[ronzo]

15. couldn't agree more...

He's very well spoken. Funny how being intelligent will do that for a person...

[Wendec]

12. Very strange

My boss came in the other day and said he heard Clark on the radio and thought he was listening to George Bush. I was a little irritated until he explained it was the voice. I have no idea what the subject was, but my boss said he was flabbergasted at what Bush was saying! LOL

As someone who was born, raised, educated and settled in the South, I don't hear any similarity, but apparently it must be there.

[diplomats]

17. To me, Clark doesn't sound like he has a Southern accent

so I don't notice any resemblance to Bush.

[Kahuna]

31. It's the pitch I believe.

:shrug:

[GiovanniC]

66. What If People Think Bush IS Clark?

For example, what if Clark says things that a lot of people really agree with, as he is prone to doing, and people think he's Bush? And then people say, "Hey, that Bush ain't so bad after all."

Of course, they'll probably also wonder why Bush is saying, "The Bush Administration has left this country in shambles due to greed, lies, and mismanagement. We must kick the Bush kabal out in 2004!"

[wyldwolf]

16. It is a dialect common to Texas, Arkansas, and Oklahoma...

... I used to know the name of the dialect. But common to Texarkana.

[billbuckhead]

19. Bullshit. I think Clark sounds authentic and Bush sounds phony

Is this what now passes for psy-ops on this board?

[StrongBad]

21. how is it propaganda?

If it is true that there is a regional dialect where they are from and they happen to share it, that would logically explain why they sound similar in tone and intonation. Correct?

[billbuckhead]

27. Bush ain't from there to begin with and to say someone sounds like..

the evil one is a slander under those circumstances. Chimpy learned to to act that accent.

[Pastiche423]

29. Slander?

You must be joking!

[billbuckhead]

30. It's akin to El Rushbo saying John Kerry looks French!

It's a bullshit objection.

[JohnKleeb]

33. I dont care really how Clark sounds lol

As long he doesnt sound like that is in words like Bush.

[libertad]

64. It is not slander to suggest that chimpy sounds like he is

imitating an Arkansas accent.

[DemCam]

24. To take a clue from Clark...Yes

[wyldwolf]

34. Regardless of billbuckhead's *entertaining* responses...

..the fact of the Texarkana dialect remains.

Just be glad they're not both from Cajun Country...

By the way, W. Bush grew up in Midland and Houston, Texas. He "ain't" faking anything.

[Carmerian]

46. Huh?

I lived in the Dallas area for several years. The timbre of Bush and Clark's voices are similar to each other, but not to anyone else's that I can recall. I don't think it's correct to say that there's a dialect common to TX/AR/OK, but there is certainly a nasal twang common to east Texas, SE Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Ross Perot is another example of someone with that accent, though he certainly doesn't sound like Clark or Bush.

[wyldwolf]

60. Yeah, seriously, after I went to bed last night I remembered where..

...I heard it. It was a show on the history channel detailing the western expansion.

I've been trying to remember what the guy who mentioned called the dialect but I can't - and Google doesn't help - although search on Texarkana dialect gets a few results.

I'll just call it Texarcanese.

[ComerPerro]

18. He sounds EXACTLY like Bush

But just in the tone and accent.

But at the same time he sounds nothing like Bush.

In an alternate reality, if Bush were intelligent he would sound just like Clark.

Just the same, in an alternate reality, if Clark were an alcoholic, cocaine-using moron who only reads from carefully prepared scripts and paused every five words, then Clark would sound just like Bush.

Its funny, but the more I watch people like Clark, Dean, Kucinich, and the others speak, take questions, and speak unscripted, the more I realize what a moron and a fraud Bush is.

[Trahurn]

20. Its his trouble on C-Span that concerns me

According to what I recently read in a town meeting broadcast by C-Span Clark seemed to choke on the word "democrat." We cannot have anyone in the white house who has any compunctions about being and supporting the party he is running under.

[laruemtt]

22. he enunciates

and no strategery to be found!

[SWPAdem]

25. You "read" in a town hall meeting broadcast on C-Span?

I saw his only town hall meeting (until tonight) two times and I can assure you that he did not choke on any words, much less the word "Democrat". How fucking stupid!

[Kahuna]

32. Oh Brother! Is that the best you can come up with?

:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

35. giggle snort snicker... bwhahahahahahahaha!

[Forkboy]

39. Even I have to laugh at that one

:)

[IranianDemocrat]

37. Exactly, judge him on how he pronounces a word.

Some people on this board are just crazy.

[Kool Kitty]

48. Chokes on the word "democrat"?

Please.

[juajen]

54. Bullfeathers!!!!

In your dreams.

[Cush]

23. not to me

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[Lefty48197]

28. It's easy to tell them apart...

Clark is the one who uses multiple syllables.

[catforclark2004]

36. Clark is the one that knows what he saying and why

Bush is the one that has not even 1 clue....That's why he's giving the Iraq burden to a National Security Advisor who couldn't even imaging Planes flying into buildings......

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

38. someone should post that picture of Bush/Clark

separated at birth. I assume a little photoshopping was done, but it make Bush and Clark look like identical twins. Excellent propaganda (for the Green party!)

[catforclark2004]

40. Cain & Abel.......I know that Bush is the bad one that gets pulvarized!!!!

And the other will set up free!.....Clark is the anti-Bush!

[Castilleja]

41. Yes, me too

I did not want to say it though... I heard him while watching, and thought he sounded like Bush, then confirmed it for myself when I was in the kitchen out of sight of the TV, and thought Bush came on CSPAN to speak, turns out it was Wesley Clark. It is odd. Glad someone else thinks so too, not just me, so I am not nuts.

[SayitAintSo]

42. Bush ain't southern....it's an act, a wish, a ruse ...

He's a damn Yankee ( one that came down here and stayed ... :)

[VOX]

57. You got that right, SIAS -- he's the *worst* kind of carpetbagger...

Came to exploit the land and resources, then the people. His greed knows no bounds.

[Toucano]

44. I don't hear it.

The cadence is totally different, and I don't hear the same accent at all.

Also Clark hardly ever hmm's and haw's or err's. His speaking is much more deliberated and disciplined. Not sloppy like Dubya.

[hedda_foil]

45. It's the pitch and timbre which are exactly the same.

The cadence, vocabulary and articulation are totally different. Even the accents are somewhat different, but the pitch and timbre are virtually identical.

[LauraT28]

56. I don't agree at all here...

I have a very good ear, musically and otherwise, and I'm telling you right now if you actually measured thier pitches on equipment, they would be different. I want to vomit when I hear Bush, and not only because of what he's saying. I cannot stand the sound of his voice, and Clark's doesn't bother me at all. If it were the same, it would, no matter what he was saying!

Anywho... who cares! :)

Laura

[blkgrl]

47. Yes I noticed, but I'm also from the North

But seriously, one time I heard a voice that I thought was Bush's and was immediately disgusted--I was shocked when I turned around and saw Clark's face.

[stickdog]

49. They only sound similar when they are both lying. (NT)

[kiahzero]

50. Yes, that's exactly it

He's lying through his teeth all the time, any time he opens his mouth.

Finally! Your posting of the same attacks, over and over again, has made me see the light that Clark is a DLC "Stop Dean" candidate, while, at the same time, a Rovian plant.

Thank you stickdog, for helping enlighten me to the truth.

[stickdog]

52. You're welcome, kiahzero.

That was a joke, btw.

[oasis]

51. Chimpy can't string a sentence together. UUmmm bring dignatay

to th' what house. Ahhh Saddam is no more. ahhh show yer cards.

[phrenzy]

53. Another YES vote

As a person who is in full support of Clark at this point - I must say, I too noticed the similarity in their speaking voice. Of course, the words are totally different, but the similarity in the SOUND (not words) is striking.

I can't lie and say I wish he didn't sound different from Shrub. I think (hope) the more I hear him the more I will hear the differences in the voices rather than the similarities.

[LauraT28]

55. I don't think so...

I hear a HUUUGEEEE difference in their speech. I'm from Missouri, and grew up listening to Arkansas accents. Clark's Arkansas accent is a WORLD away from the Texaslike dribble that comes out of GWB's mouth. Not to mention that clearly Clark has an excellent grasp of the English language... imagine expecting that out of our leader.

Clark does have a little southern drawl, but I don't mind listening to it at all, since he can articulate his point intelligently. Not to mention there's no ignorant smirk on Clark's face. Don't you just want to smack Bush?? I can't even stand looking at him. Clark looks sincere to me.

Laura

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

58. I made sure to listen last night because people here had mentioned it, but

I didn't hear a similarity in any way at all except they both have voices that might be considered in a tenor range, like many men.

I think the accents are COMPLETELY different and I'm from the North.

[DemCam]

61. No more than they look alike.

In spite of the doctored picture. Haven't heard the lisp once.

Weaponssssssssss of Mash Destrucshionnn

And thank god...he didn't say terra once.

[OKNancy]

62. Good grief

They don't sound at all alike to me. Of course being from Oklahoma, maybe my ears can hear the differences. Clark has a softer lilt to his voice. Also he doesn't have that speech impediment that Bush does.....SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Terroshistsssss. It drives me crazy the way he can't pronounces an "S" without hissing.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

65. you hear well with your hearts ears..imho

[graham67]

67. Not even close

I don't see any resemblance at all :shrug: