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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:12 PM
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Clinton impeachment opened a big can of worms...
If Arnold loses tomorrow, the Repubs are already geared up to charge the Dems with "dirty politics" against Arnold. After the tactics they used for eight years on the Clintons, they really should be ashamed to bring the topic up, but they will, because they have no shame. But the Dems look like they know how to play the game also. So...will it be tit for tat? However the election comes out, upcoming elections will probably be just as negative as this one. The Repubs wanted to play this game....and now they got somebody that will play it with them...
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:21 PM
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1. Gray Davis should remain in politics, win or lose
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 09:21 PM by Democat
He would make a great addition to the Democratic strategy team in fighting against Republicans.

If he would have been allowed by other Democrats in the state to "go negative" from the start (like the Republicans did), he would have Arnold at 3% support by now.

Davis has made some mistakes in his presentation to the people of California, but he is a very smart man and he's proud to be a Democrat. He fights as hard and mean as any Republican and that's why he wins so often.

Let's hope he's got at least one more big win left in him.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:58 PM
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2. I agree
if negative things were to be brought up they should have come up at first. Did anyone read the article in the Enquirer(2001 front page) where Arnold was proported to have a child by a long term affair? Enquirer said in 2001 they called up Arnolds campaign staff and asked about this. Arnold then came out and agreed to not run until his children then aged 3-11 were older. Yet 2 years later here he is again, of course he lied. The thing was he knew he couldn't win last year with all the stuff out there and time to dig more up so he waited until he could sneak in. Issa got snuckerd thinking Arnold was not going to run, I'm sure he knew the dirt too and was too over confident that Arnold was not running so he would have a better chance. He has endorsed Arnold but I know he has in the back of his mind he was backstabbed and waiting on the get even porch.

So you see if all this had been brought up as soon as Arnold went on Late nigh show and announced it would have had more time to be out there so people would have time to digest it.

All being said it needs to follow him into office,(Have they stopped talking about Clinton?) Dems needs to stop letting Tigers go when they have them by the tail because they will surely get loose and bite them in the butt later.

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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:13 PM
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5. Um,
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 10:13 PM by Cush
If he loses to Arnold, doesn't that show lack of strategy?
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:03 PM
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3. Actually both parties are looking hypocritical on this one
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:12 PM
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4. In a way, yes
But in the way I see it, Dems have TAKEN the dirt the Republicans have thrown at them for years.
This is sweet revenge, and it shows the hypocrisy of the GOP: they will curse Bill Clinton, but praise Ahnold?
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:18 PM
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7. It is not sweet for those of us Dems that were just
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 10:19 PM by Classical_Liberal
as insulted at what was being done to the Clintons as we were about what was being done to real issues. Namely pushing them off the radar. If Davis had gone negative with Arnold's Enron associations you wouldn't be hearing a peep of complaint out of me.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:20 PM
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8. How Else Do We Shut Them Up?
If we continue to let Repugnicans slime and lie, they will, and as you can see there's no limit to it. We first have to put them on the defensive, then debunk each and every one of them. Then, maybe, we can have elections based on issues.

Hoping that common sense would prevail during the Clinton inquisition sure didn't work, did it? Playing the high ground, while it's where I would prefer to be, just let the GOOPs plant all sorts of Anthrax Coulters and Tweety Matthews around us.

It looks like they're about to get away with grand larceny in California. Should we still remain silent?
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:16 PM
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6. Good point, but I think the California "recall" is a LONG WAY from
being resolved. IOW, I believe it will be close enough to trigger recounts and lawsuits a la Florida 2000. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:57 AM
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9. Well, he'll certainly negate the "family values" factor in
Republican Presidential campaign....it will be difficult to attack Democrats on this aspect given the unprincipled barbarian that they have chosen to lead them in California.

But I am interested in what he does to solve the economic problems....how he handles the Enron case will be most interesting, I think.
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