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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:49 PM
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I just called Leahy's office
and told them that I have voted for him for every election since I moved to Vermont and I'm done with him. I will not vote for him again. Why on earth is he going to vote to confirm Roberts? This will have decades of effects on all US citizens. For heavens sake, i know the dems are in the minority, but they should at least put up a fight. when Roe v Wade goes down, I'll blame Leahy.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:56 PM
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1. I called Bingaman's local office about Roberts....
I said: Let's get back to basics. If I go to a job interview I'm expected to have a complete resume and to answer all questions. This guy is supposed to rule on things that affect my life, and he doesn't have to meet that standard????

Not much hope for Bingaman..he votes about 40% Dem lately....
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:59 PM
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3. Yes, he's been dissappointing lately. I saw him in Taos once and
I didn't talk to him because I was afraid I would get too angry and start yelling at a Senator. LOL. I should have done it though, especially since he was by himself getting some coffee. heh.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 01:58 PM
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2. As well you should...
...we should prepare any Democrat who doesn't start doing what is right to be burned at the proverbial political stake. We should smear them when they go back up for election and cut their funding. Ensure that their political careers are ended. If you aren't going to march to our beat, then we should toss them out. It's what the Republicans have done and thats why the Republicans are where they are now. Because they demand their members to march lock step. They do not tolerate this crap and if someone pulled it they would castrate him on live television as an example to anyone else who dared stray from the pack.

If the left wants any damn power in D.C. we have to be willing to fight hard and dirty. Put Leahy's head on a plate and make an example out of him. Show the others that if they even THINK -- or if we SUSPECT THEM OF THINKING -- of straying from us that their asses are dead meat.

Does Leahy have any dirt that can be sprinkled in the press? Affairs? Something hidden that he doesn't want known?
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:05 PM
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4. Give him a break
He doesn't want any more anthrax sent to his office or the Veep to tell him something unpleasant. Although Leahy seems to have one light bulb off most of the time, maybe he has received some unpublicized assurances that motivated this latest unbelievable announcement. The Democratic Party in Congress is beginning to render Nader sensible, something I thought to be impossible as late as early last November. If they don't draw a line with this next Supreme Court appointment, there needs to be a revolution in the primaries and caucuses next year.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:07 PM
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5. I disagree
I don't think he gives a crap if the VP calls him a mother f*cker. I don't think he's voting for Roberts because he's afraid of anthrax. I think he's just being a wimp, like most of the other democrats. this is one of the most important votes he'll ever make and he's bending right over.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:11 PM
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6. Anthrax should be the least of his worries....
...and angry left should give him nightmares. I am in favor of making the Max Cleland smear look like good bi-partisan politics for any Democrat who doesn't grow a backbone. I say if they are going to be motivated by fear, then they should be motivated by fear from US not fear of them.

Dig up all the dirt that we can, put it out there. Spread rumors, distort, do whatever the hell it takes. Just ruin them. Destroy them. Make an example out of any who don't jump as high as we want. If the Democrats want to be afraid, let them be afraid, just let them be afraid of us.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:13 PM
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7. Max Cleland...
why didn't he ever speak out against election fraud? it was so obvious.
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LawDem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 02:39 PM
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8. It isn't lack of guts
My guess is it's strategic; Leahy figures (correctly) that Roberts is a sure thing. He also calculates that he's no worse than an even trade for for the old Chief.

So he's voting yes for two reasons:

1. He's hoping (I agree it's a long shot) that by saying that he's putting a lot of faith in Roberts word in voting yes, he'll create some pressure on Roberts to not move too far, too quickly to the right;

2. But more importunately, Leahy's thinking that by showing his fairness in giving a meaningless vote for Roberts (meaningless in the sense of not changing the outcome), he positions himself for the high ground in opposing the next nominee, up to the point of filibuster, if she (probably a she) ends up being really far right.

You don't have to agree with Leahy, which frankly I don't, to accept there is something more at work here than his simply being a chicken shit. I mean, be honest, it isn't like he's at much risk in Vermont anyway, or needs to play to the state's right wing.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:47 PM
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9. I agree with your analysis up to a point
I question whether or not he has the ability or the stomach to lead an effective attack on this nominee, and I suspect he realizes that. Hopefully, he will be able to do better with the next nominee and hopefully he will not demoralize the troops with this action. We are going to be treated to the same "I can't answer that question, Senator" strategy with the next nominee. It would have been good to establish the position that such perverse stonewalling of the Senate and the people does not merit the Senate's consent to the nominee. His willingness to vote for Roberts undercuts such a position.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:29 PM
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11. None of that will mean a damn thing
Why? Roberts is purely a Bush loyalist. Duh. Why else is Bush putting him up for such a high position? Iran/Contra and the 2000 election hon. I want those damn fucking papers and I don't care what the republicans say. If this guy is going to make laws about my life then I want to fucking see them.
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cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:23 PM
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10. Send that rat bastard home on a rail....
Darth Cheney tells him to go fuck himself, and he wants to confirm ROBERTS!? Done like a true Democratic milksop! In 2006, we need to get rid of the Bidens, Liebermans, Kerrys, and any other kneepad queens who bow before the Bushies before we go after the Repukes....Leahy can GO TO HELL!

P.S: to my fellow Tennesseans...don't elect Harold Ford Jr. to the Senate....he's another knee pad queen who says one thing to his constituents here, and ANOTHER in D.C. elect the lady Kurita! Do you homework when it comes to the Democratic PRIMARIES before you go hunting for Repukes...too many of the Dems are nothing more than Republicans posing as Dems!

HANG THE QUISLINGS!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:40 PM
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12. And do you know with Kurita
she admitted on a local show in Nashville she DOES NOT want an investigation on the DSM? Hm? Mean while Ford did sign the John Conyers petition. I want someone who I know will vote to impeach Bush.
When Kurita was asked why she doesn't want an investigation on the DSM you know her reasoning? "It would make the troops look bad"! WTF?! THEY ALREADY DO!
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