The greatness of Bill Clinton has shone like a blinding morning sun...

[Postman]

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/21.html#a5042

After witnessing the Bush administration's criminal behavior over these past years, what I wouldn't give to have a REAL leader like Bill Clinton in the White House.

While he was in office I wasn't much of a fan of his. I also didn't drink the rightwing kool-aid during his tenure either.

Boy oh boy does he look like a freakin man among men now. We had a great leader in our midst.

Bill Maher is 100% dead on target in his comments about how Clinton would have responded.....Damn! This country needs a Bill Clinton now more than ever...

[OldLeftieLawyer]

1. Did you read what Clinton said?

It was brilliantly recounted by The Rude Pundit.

But why does that asswipe, Carlson, think bringing up Clinton, when the subject was how our government is failing, is relevant?

Jon Stewart was SO right. Carlson's a dick.

[jedicord]

2. Saw him on Meet the Press last weekend.

All I could do was keep sighing, missing an intelligent, thinking person in the White House.

And you're right, what a freakin' difference between him and *.

[stopbush]

3. I was a big Bill fan when he was in office.

And why not? The country was in great shape and - on a personal level - my income increased 13-fold (yep...I hit six-figuresville under Bill).

There are plenty of things to quibble about Clinton, but that's the fact - they're quibbles. I, for one, didn't deny him the perq of a blowjob. If anyone deserved it, it was him.

[newswolf56]

7. Quibbles? Clinton's welfare "reform" put the Democratic Party...

solidly on the Republican team in the (viciously racist) war against the poor and against the New Deal in general, and was therefore a major step toward the atrocity of New Orleans. In fact Clinton's savage betrayal of the poor (including disabled people and limited-income elderly) plus the hostility to working families demonstrated by his support of NAFTA led directly to blue-collar folks voting Republican ("at least the Republicans will let me keep my guns") and the poor not voting at all ("both parties are equally opposed to the social safety net").

[Nay]

10. DH and I always say that Clinton was the best Republican prez

the country ever had. We disagreed w/him about NAFTA, welfare reform(as he described it). Agreed w/him about healthcare reform. And knew he was as smart as hell and a hard worker, so the fundamentals of running the country would be done correctly. Thus the surplus and good economic times.

Too bad the freepers can't realize how good they had it. Wonder what sort of disaster will bring them around? Oh, yeah, nothing will bring them around. Maybe another 8 years of Jeb Bush?

[jedr]

4. hell, Jerry Ford would be an upgrade;

ask my 87 yr old father in law if he has ever seen things so bad..."Not since '33"

[MN ChimpH8R]

5. Jerry Ford would be a HUGE upgrade

I am old enough to remember Ford. He was basically an old-school moderate-conservative Repub. Ford didn't hate the Federal government or want to destroy it. And last I heard, he doesn't have much time for the neo-conners or the fundie wingnuts. Ford on his worst day would be infinitely better than the Chimpturd on his "best."

[AX10]

6. kick

[Zenlitened]

8. I had no idea Tucker Carlson was such a comedic genius!

His remark about Clinton's "self-righteousness"... wow! That was brilliant satire! So subtle, so charmingly self-deprecating, yet so --

Wait...

You mean that wasn't satire?

The bow-tie-wearing, opinion-inflated, fact-challenged little sparrow-fart was SERIOUS in calling Clinton "self-righteous."

:wow:

And did you see the look on his face when Maher started criticizing Bush? Priceless! Looked like he was sucking on a lemon, he was scowling so.

Oh, man. What's really scary is, pricks like Carlson actually believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths -- without ever realizing that sane people, people with actual facts to complement their opinions, are just laughing their asses off at people like him.

:rofl:

[newswolf56]

9. Greatness? See my previous post (#7); then reflect on...

the fact it was Clinton who fulfilled the Reaganoid dream of welfare "reform" -- that is, savagely yanking the rug out from under the poor -- and read what Paul Krugman says here:

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/091905.html

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