This storm will expose a new poverty--and make Bush look worse

[Thtwudbeme]

The poverty of the soul of the GOP; the poverty of lack of intellectual curiousity-

He is an incompetent leader at best; a C-student who has never been able to get anything "right" in his entire life.

He has filled appointed positions with incompetents like himself that were born into either money, or like Rove, brown-nosed their way into being friends with the "right" people.

There is no flipping way FEMA or the National Guard can handle this right on the heels of a storm that is STILL a disaster. The Red Cross has gone almost completely down the tubes....the resources are GONE.

Who's going to donate for relief funds this time? We ALL know what this means....we are barely going to be able to afford to drive to work now; God help us when the weather gets cold, and the heating bill arrives.
Michael and I probably won't donate...we might...but, honestly, we are staring at resources and looking at next year making sure we can just take care of ourselves--

Rove, ya blew it this time with your "advice" pal.....the worker bees you depend on are exhausted...the troops are tired...the churches and charities are tapped out.

If they forego their tax cuts for the wealthy...that's it; that's the end of their so-called "base." So much for that idea.

I am not gloating; I am saddened to the point of depression that our country has sunk this low.

Stephanie

[wanpete]

1. excellent points, all true...and this is not blaming * for acts of nature

but pointing out that his failed policies have put us in a bind to where we cannot appropriately and effectively deal with these forces beyond our control.

Worst President Ever.

[electropop]

36. Is Global Warming an act of nature?

Our fossil fuels are hurricane fuel.

[TheModernTerrorist]

41. true

but you can't blame that ALL on *........well....... unless you're ME, because I like to blame it all on him :-)



*global warming?
it was Bush's fault!

*Fall of Saigon?
again, it was Bush!

*that whole Jesus thing?
you guessed it... Bush!


...I guess I'm playing the "blame game". Goddamn you, Scotty McClellan!!!!!!! :mad:

[electropop]

42. Well, there are some specifics one can blame on him:

(1) He and his entire administration are all oil magnates, and they have vociferously advanced legislation to promote the burning of as much fossil fuel as possible. He cancelled Kyoto, had his toadies falsify "scientific" reports on global warming, and much more.

(2) He slashed funding for the levees. He saved enough money for about 3 days of slaughter in Iraq.

(3) He had the ice trucks drive to the farthest corners of the country, away from the scene.

(4) He had FEMA actively lay siege to New Orleans, in a more-or-less explicitly stated effort to "smoke out" the survivors. Meanwhile, local law enforcement used gunfire to block the escape routes.

We don't have to make stuff up, like they do with Clinton. They have committed plenty of crimes in the real world.

[TheModernTerrorist]

43. well I KNOW that...

I was just being facetious :-D

[iamjoy]

2. Going To Make Nagin & Blanco Look Worse Too

in Galveston, local officials were using school buses to evacuate people.

We're going to have to come up with a good counterpoint to the freepers on that one.

Of course, right now, I am so worried about another major storm striking the gulf coast so soon after Katrina that it is hard to think of such things.

I am also worried that these powerful storms are a trend, and that this season isn't an anomoly. If it is a trend, it could help turn the southeast (if not all of the USA) into a third world country.

[Thtwudbeme]

8. Galveston is a small island

compared to a city of what? 500,000 or something like that?

There is no comparison--and nothing to say. However...it appears that the same type of evacuation has been done in Houston, with the exception (possibly--) of the hospitals.

The poor are still there.

Stephanie

[calico1]

17. Possibly, but remember Galveston has the

advantage of Katrina to do their planning. And I highly doubt it will make FEMA look any better. Or the President. Especially if after all this he keeps insisting on tax breaks for the rich.

[Thtwudbeme]

20. This might seem "ugly" to some people, but one other comment from me:

on Galveston.

I don't remember seeing a bunch of poverty stricken people there.

Just sayin'

[catmandu57]

30. They're there

Maybe not in the numbers that NO had, but, they're there. Then there are people who are just up a rung or two, trying to live on minimum wage or a little above it.
These are the people who are going to suffer, the middle and upper class may suffer property loss, but eventually all that will pan out, the poor will be the ones who pay the most though.

[Thtwudbeme]

31. Oh, I believe you

I just didn't see them as a young and dumb tourist---

The poor, and the truckers are going to get screwed to the wall AGAIN.

Stephanie

[Cha]

22. And about bushwa's cutting the

wages for employees illegally. I'd give you the link but it's in GD and those bookmarks are unavailable right now.

This latest Scourge of nature is going to make bush look even worse on Katrina. The people of Texas will benefit, though, because of the people who were sacrificed in New Orleans.

[Cha]

19. Where were Nagin and Blanco

suppose to evacuate the citizens of New Orleans to? Didn't they have to have some place to go besides the ones who made it to the Superdome where there were no real preparations?

[KoKo]

26. The Media is telling you that all goes well with Galveston Evacuation....

and you believe them? There's a post here on DU about folks being told by Red Cross in Huston to go to the Greyhound Bush station to evacuate. When they get there...there are no busses. Even if you have a ticket you can't get a bus out.

Media is on Full Time Rive Whore Spin to make Texas the "Model" that NO's wasn't.

Believe me...they won't even count the dead bodies in Galveston now that Bush Co.'s "Funeral Gate" company is in charge of the morgues.

[iamjoy]

39. Good, Help Me Counter The Spin

sadly, in America today spin usually becomes truth. That is why we must have facts to fight the propaganda.

[murray hill farm]

3. after rita...

what govt resources that are left to respond...will have as their priority, the refineries...not the people and not the cities....this will be the beginning of the long road down for the economy of this country.

[Kazak]

4. Think maybe we might need to take some measures against global warming?

Call me crazy... :crazy:

[brokensymmetry]

5. You make some good points.

I regret that I can't dispute any of them...

Right now, Rita is headed straight for the natural gas fields and the oil refineries. What happens if the ability to produce diesel is damaged...diesel being the fuel of choice for farm equipment...which will be needed to harvest the grain crop....

I think it will be a chill winter, in more ways than one.

[NNN0LHI]

6. There is no plus for Bush in any disaster he can't blame on Arabs

He is fucked on this hurricane stuff. Bush won't be any hero after this. No matter what happens things would have been better if we had all our national guard over here helping hurricane victims instead of in Iraq chasing shadows.

Don

[BrklynLiberal]

7. and if FEMA does an excellent job, it will point out what they should have

done in New Orleans...and the question will be why DIDN'T they do the same for New Orleans???!!! It will make their intentional "incompetence" all the more obvious.

[Thtwudbeme]

12. FEMA will not do a good job. They do not have competent leadership;

they are lacking in manpower...their supplies and everything else are exhausted.

Brownie left the new guy in a helluva mess; if I am sitting here at my computer screen waiting for my fake tan to dry and I know this...I promise you...the new guy is shoving Rolaids down his throat.

[BrklynLiberal]

28. I have to laugh at the image you conjured up in my mind.

and

[iamjoy]

23. Nah, Brownie Gets All The Blame

if FEMA performs well now, they will credit local & state officals for doing their part OR they will make Brown the scapegoat for the whole Katrina mess and point out that his "resignation" fixed everything.

Yeah, right. You cannot strip a disaster relief agency of its power for four years and fix it in less than four weeks just because one person leaves.

[Roxy66]

9. I think if they try to push their beloved Tax Cuts during the 2006

elections they will be doomed. I really dont think the majority of the Repubs will go for it after all of this

[LiberalinNC]

13. No, they will delay the medicare bill instead...the sick, old and children

are the ones who will suffer in the end. The Repugs don't give a shit about these folks, only their precious tax cuts!

[Verve]

10. I hope you're right. However,

Bush and Turdblossom have spun worse things in the past (ex:WMD, 9/11,compassionate leader, etc)and horrifyingly they've made him look good to many Americans.

I'm hoping they've gone too far this time and that the American public won't forgive him this time. Yet, most American's have a short attention span.

[Thtwudbeme]

15. Here's my reply....911 didn't affect where a whole bunch of Americans live

not many people (comparatively speaking) were affected (other than emotionally) by 9/11. Most of us are middle class suburb dwellers, or lower middle class city folks. I cared about the loss of life in NYC, but not really about the buildings...I could never afford to eat in that restaurant at the top (I know...I was there and looked at the menu.)

The WMD bullshit didn't really affect us personally until recently.

These two storms do...the 'burbs of everyday people like us that live in neighborhoods that look like ours are DYING. Because of a fucking storm.

In a Superpower country.

There you go.

[wanpete]

16. i don't think many americans will forget the horrors they witnessed

in the aftermath of katrina or what yet lies ahead of us with Rita. I just don't think * and company will ever be able to spin their way of out these disasters.

[Verve]

21. I hope all the positive posters are right.

I've been let down so many times before thinking this is the event that will bury Bush and it never does.

Sorry for the pessimism, I really am hoping you're all correct, though.

[LiberalinNC]

11. My only question is this why are we feeling pressured into continually

donating to help the folks from Katrina? Don't get me wrong, I have donated what I can, and it hurts me that I can't financially donate more, but isn't that what FEMA was set up for? Aren't they supposed to take our tax dollars to help in times like these? It's becoming OUR BURDEN, and I don't mean that we shouldn't help out, but why is it OUR PROBLEM? It's the US Government's problem, NOT the people's soul responsibility to make sure these folks are taken care of.

(Just venting at the incompetence of our federal government!)

[readmylips]

29. We donated $ to 911, now we donated time to Habitat....

There was a show on TV about the 911 widows, each received approx. 8M for their families. Many of the widows wasted their millions on crap. One woman wasted her millions on herself and her boyfriend, never left a penny for her children's college education, and now they are in debt. We are never giving one cent to anything else. We have signed up to build houses for the poor with Habitat.

Besides, our country is so wealthy that if we stopped building a few bombs, we could pay for every poor person to have a home.

[Cha]

14. And I think it's going to make

the bushwa look WORSE, also, because whatever they do now..is what should have been done with KATRINA And WAS NOT!

They were sitting around with their collective thumbs up their butts while bush was out doin' his mandatory photo ops(mccain finally gets back at bush) and ALL HELL WAS BREAKING LOOSE IN LOUISIANNA!

[thereismore]

18. It will help Bush* in the long run. I can see it 10 years from now:

Yes we have a depression worse than ever, but but... Bush had hurricanes!!!

[jean]

24. there are millions of "C" students in our country who have heart, soul

and the basic instincts to help in a crisis.

bush is an empty man. And it doesn't have anything to do with intellect - he has no heart, is a total, selfish coward.

[sam sarrha]

25. Rove can spinn shit into Gold....

[Thtwudbeme]

27. Not this time. Think "Karma" if you have to...

If you believe in Samsara-

[CrackpotAmerica]

32. Moral Poverty

Hopefully the difference between Morality and it's lying cousin, Moralism will be exposed and dealt with once and for all...

It's getting pretty rough out there, my friends. Please be careful and prepared for the upcoming logical conclusion to this cancer on our nation.

[info being]

33. How low can you go

Oh yes, politics as limbo.

[deadparrot]

34. If they do ANY better than NO, though,

wouldn't it make * look fabulous in comparison to his NO response? IMO, Rita is just a chance for them to cover up the effects of Katrina with a shitty, but not quite so disasterous, response.

Won't people just use the mindset "Well, it wasn't *as* bad as New Orleans...he's doing better!"?

I'm just glad that there's some sort of organization going on down there. It's better than nothing.

[Thtwudbeme]

35. Nope....it looks to me like the exact same thing is going on in Houston

as it was in NO....

There is no way this incompetent bunch of fuckwits will have their shit together in 36 hours.

[bigbrother05]

37. They'll over compensate

By doing too much and overwhelming the area with aid and support they'll claim that NO was only because "no one could have anticipated" what happened in Katrina. You can bet that Gov Goodhair (a tip-o-the-hat to Molly I) signed the paperwork two days ago, in triplicate. Hell, GH Perry has already asked the Feds to bring gas to the evacuees on the interstate. They hope no one notices that if it's Fla or Tex, they can't do enough, anyone else is screwed. Be sure to keep an eye on the Corpo-Petro profits in the coming months and hope you don't have asthma after they waive the air standards for them.

[wakemewhenitsover]

38. It's worse than incompetence. Read Molly Ivins' column.

[ignatius 2]

40. I am saddened and sickened by the speed with which these

neocon bastards have hurt our country. My hope is that people will be ready for an intelligent,progressive congress and president who can pull us out of this muck.

I always thought that the survivalists were a little bonkers but now they are looking down right brilliant. It is going to be a long,hard winter, the winter of our discontent.