Fuck Leahy and any other "yes" vote for Roberts. Dinos Suck just as much

[In Truth We Trust]

as rupukes!

Yes, I posted this yesterday but I am still very pissed at sellout dems so I need to spread the sentiment. Vermonters, please remember this sellout come primary time.

[still_one]

1. It is quite unfortunate

even Feinstein is voting against this guy

what is leahy's problem

[KittyWampus]

2. Wow, how insightful. You're the FIRST person to post this.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[QC]

5. Don't ya just love smart, sophisticated, penetrating political analysis?

;-)

[KingFlorez]

3. Leahy's no DINO

It's funny how people here call Dianne Feinstein a DINO too, yet she's voting no.

[EFerrari]

9. There's nothing funny about DINO Diane. She's a war

profiteer and that's the lowest of the low.

[In Truth We Trust]

16. His vote for roberts is a sellout; plain and simple! DINO by definition.

[saracat]

4. Leahy has NEVER been a sellout before.

He is one of the best Dems. We need to ask him WHY and demand he vote against Roberts.

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. He has already said 'why'

"But in my judgment, in my experience, but especially in my conscience I find it is better to vote yes than no. Ultimately, my Vermont roots have always told me to go with my conscience and they do so today."

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050922/NEWS01/509220313/1009/NEWS05

[mattclearing]

6. Yawn...

...What, a over-reactionary post in GD that jettisons an entire political career over one decision?

There's something you don't see every day.

:eyes:

[Algorem]

8. Bush shouldn't be allowed to put anyone on Supreme Court.

[mattclearing]

11. I don't disagree with you there.

But cluelessly Dem-bashing posts are beyond done in here.

[true_con]

42. I take it one step further.

I think he is packing the courts just to make sure any convictions against him get overturned. Imagine the boy king being handed up for war crimes. Who is going to save him? The same group that put him into office of course. Only this time the outcome is assured with his cronies on the bench. Seems simple to me.

[In Truth We Trust]

14. So His vote FOR Roberts is acceptable to you then?! wtf?

[mattclearing]

22. Nothing like black and white, with us or against us rhetoric.

This post is lame and disruptive.

[In Truth We Trust]

26. You're close it actually should read: "Us against them" whereby dems

stand united against lifetime neocon supreme court appointments.

"Lame and disruptive" wtf. How democratic of you to characterize a progressize rant against sellouts as lame and disruptive. Perhaps your worldview is to assault repukes for their policies but ignore dem enablers for supporting those same policies. There is a word for such a philosophy. I believe it is called hypocracy.

[mattclearing]

34. You mean hypocrisy?

You, who would jettison the entire career of an excellent Democratic senator for one decision, are lecturing me about my ideological consistency?

I'd be more impressed with your accusation of hypocrisy if you could spell the word.

[In Truth We Trust]

39. Forgive my typo. I should have written HYPOCRISY. Btw, your response

doesn't address the blatantly obvious HYPOCRITICAL position apparent in your previous post. But because of my typo you are not impressed. Very insightful.

[mattclearing]

40. I don't see how I contradicted myself.

I have said I disagree with Leahy's decision. I also think your OP was totally lame. No contradiction there.

[In Truth We Trust]

44. I ndid not see anything in this thread where you stated disagreement with

Leahy's support of Roberts. The apparent hypocricy to which I refer is from your excusing his vote due to his previous voting record. I am of the opinion that you are against republican policies based on your statement earlier caliming agreement with another poster regarding whether Bush** should be able to appoint anyone. Having said that thought you characterize the op as lame and disruptive. I assume from that I can infer that it is ok by you to slam repuke policy for what it is yet it would not be ok to slam dinolike enabling of the very same policy. That is how I see it.

[mattclearing]

46. No, I did it in the other thread about this same topic yesterday.

I see you as bashing Dems for voting their conscience. Next you'll be calling Feingold a DINO. Give me a break.

[In Truth We Trust]

47. This vote is UNCONSCIENABLE! So yeah, I am bashing it and him

for doing so. I am consistent in my advocasy for democratic principles.

[Darkhawk32]

7. Hey, I'm a Dino! Whatcha gonna do about it? LOL n/t

[caligirl]

10. surprisingly, Feinstein will vote No.

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. When has Feinstein voted against abortion rights?

:shrug:

[caligirl]

23. I wasn't thinking good point.

[OKNancy]

13. Leahy is not a DINO, he is a realist

Democrats can't win this vote anyway. He is picking his battles as every good POLITICIAN must. Politics is an art. Screaming and yelling won't change things. The only big change will come if we stick together and vote out the Republicans in 2006. That's where I plan to direct my energy because that is where the power and control rests.

[Freddie Stubbs]

17. For many liberals, the definition of a realist Democrat is a DINO

[OKNancy]

19. Well then, those liberals would be

spinning their wheels. Sound and fury signifying nothing

[In Truth We Trust]

21. I strongly disagree with letting them off the hook because of the repuke

majority and his being a "realist". Either you are a dem and vote accordingly or you are not. Giving a reactiuonary repuke a yea vote to be the cheif justice of the supreme court is selling out. Period. No pragmatic bs is acceptable to me. Vote according to democratic principles or be considered a dino.

This support of roberts is just insanbe and is complete selling out.

[ima_sinnic]

24. I totally agree! what is "realistic" about voting against your own

conscience and morality? And certainly the Vermont voters don't want Roberts approved? or do they?

sellout, and I refuse to give campaign contributions to sellouts.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. I agree. This is bullshit. Absolute BULLSHIT. n/t

[OKNancy]

29. Is Feingold a DINO?

He's voting to confirm as well.

[In Truth We Trust]

48. His vote for roberts is a dino vote

[Frances]

18. With an attitude like this

Repubs will stay in power forever! Smart move. Sarcasm.

But then I don't like the Repub philosophy so I stay focused on who has the real power and I do what I can to get rid of Repubs.

Getting rid of DINOS is a luxury we can't afford at this time.

[WI_DEM]

20. it's tiring to have someone with Leahy's overall record called a "dino"

this guy opposes the war, opposes the Bush agenda 99.9% of the time, and Cheney hates his guts to boot, but you go ahead and call him a dino.

[In Truth We Trust]

33. Great for that but 99.9 means NOT 100%. This case he has enbled a neocon

lifetime appointment to the supreme court. I hold the opinion that without continuos enabling the repukes couldn't get away with their policies. We have the power to filibuster. It would stop this appointment-period.

[tx_dem41]

25. And the marginalization of DU continues....

good job. :eyes:

[Gabi Hayes]

28. did you know what a right wing maniac Kerouac was?

very sad, as his politics was in direct controversion of just about everything he wrote, and most of his peers give him the majority of credit as catalyst for all that came after On the Road

can't get much more ironic than that

[tx_dem41]

30. Loved his writing.

Sometimes, pure enjoyment of great literature is more important than politics.

Thanks for knowing that was Kerouac though. Most people think it's Oswald. :)

[CBGLuthier]

31. Surprised by the replies?

I got called a zealot yesterday for being hard-line about this vote.

I guess there just are no standards to be applied any more.

20 years from now, when the country is in ruins, some will still say, wait, this isn't the time to fight. We can't let the public think we don't support our "leader."

Pathetic.

[Cocoa]

32. how hard core of you

your strong (though unoriginal) language proves how much you care.

[In Truth We Trust]

37. Forgive my ignorance but could you please elaborate. I don't quite

understand your statement interlinking my language with the degree of my concern.

My apologies if my unoriginal use of the English language is offensive to you. I can be crude and to the point obviously.

[Cocoa]

38. Phil Donohue made my point very well

he told Bill O'Reilly, "loud doesn't mean right."

[KharmaTrain]

35. Gotta Love The Circular Firing Squads Coming Out

Yep...let's pick at one another for a bit. My Democrat is better than yours is...:sarcasm:

For those huffing and puffing about Roberts...I ask what could have been done? Fillibuster? Give political fodder to unite the Repugnicans right when they're starting to fragment?

Well I guess someone has a point to prove here, and we'll soon find out what those points are.

Ready...aim...

[In Truth We Trust]

43. Yes damn it-use the filibuster! Either he is acceptable or not. If not

then filibuster. Whoi cares what the repukes will/would do. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Dems should stand united against corporate neocon lifetime appts to the supreme court. Sorry you don't agree. It is black and white to me. No to roberts!

[KharmaTrain]

45. Roberts Still Gets Confirmed

You energize the Repugnicans and let this regime off the hook for its other crimes while we play with a nomination we can't stop from moving forward. Also if Frist plays the card that eliminates the 55 vote rule that prevents future filibusters on not only the next nominee but any debate that matters.

If you're pissed, today's a good day to find a candidate who needs help...especially in a swing state/district...and find out how you can help get solid Democratic majorities in the House and Senate before the next nominee is rammed down our throats.

[insanity]

36. Hell, If I were him I'd vote yes.

I don't like Roberts, but this is a battle we can't win. Let Bush have Roberts, I don't think he will change the balance of power in the supreme court (hes replacing another neocon), and it gives the left to be more picky with O'Connor replacement, because we can use the fillibuster. The justice to replace O'Connor is the real battle.

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. The judge to replace O'Connor is the real battle.

IMCPO...EVERYTHING this administration does is "the real battle" and the Democrats, for 4+ years have given them EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. Medicare reform bill. The IWR. The Patriot Act. The Bankruptcy Bill. The Energy bill. The freakin' DC court judges. NONE of them have done a DAMN THING about 3 STOLEN ELECTIONS. DAMN! What the fuck are they doing representing ME??? They don't represent ME. I don't know who the fuck they are. We always make excuses for those people. Why? They are suppose to be DEMOCRATS, NOT repukes. They are suppose to be representing DEMOCRATIC VALUES! Roberts does NOT do that. Now we say, "O'Connor's replacement will be the real battle" and when that judge comes up for confirmation, THEY WILL CONFIRM. THEY WILL MAKE SOME MORE FUCKING EXCUSES. THEY WILL NOT FILIBUSTER. They are a bunch of CHICKENSHITS. THEN, what will OUR excuses be then? Every damn time this happens, we just make excuses for them. I'm sick of it. This is a matter of PRINCIPLE. It's not a matter of, "oh well, we're just trading one repuke judge for another repuke judge" it's a matter of...ROBERTS SHOULD NOT BE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. Shame on the Democrats who vote for him and you can damn well believe Feingold has just blown ANY MORE $$$$$ FROM ME. I have donated to that man and I'll be damned if he gets another fucking penny from me.