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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:29 PM
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HOLY MOLY BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Sept. 16-18, 2005. N=818 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?"

September 16-18/2005

Approve - 32%
Disapprove -67%
Unsure - 1%

ONLY 32 PERCENT APPROVE OF GEORGE. AND THIS IS AFTER HIS SPEECH TO THE NATION. He is in freefall mode. Nothing can help him now. It seems to me that no matter how many times he appears, gives speeches - or tries to look like a leader - the nation has turned its back on him.



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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:29 PM
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1. Yes!
I was waiting for it to drop under a third.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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5. 32% *is* under 1/3
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:53 PM
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29. I don't think that was lost on him.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #29
37. Man, I swear my reading comprehension sucks today....
I could have sworn he said "I *am* waiting..."

LOL. Mom always said beer kills brain cells.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #37
53. Remember the Buffalo Theory
Beer only kills the slower, weaker brain cells leaving the rest of the brain to perform more efficiently.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:43 PM
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23. This number is down in the area were the only supporters are those...
who would support a Rethug regardless as to his incompetence or level of coruption. I think 27 or 28% is that floor.

The AWOL/moron is getting close..... and when Fitzgerald announces the indictments..... 25%.... here we come.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:27 PM
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48. We're all in a great deal of trouble when that happens....
If I'm right, the dissolution of the despotic Bush cabal will twist the international dynamic into loops.

I believe China will slowly let our economy drown if the threat of this administration is removed.
China may stand to gain little by our control of ME oil. With the army they can field, they could take control of those supplies. They know that the American military machine will collapse if they stop loaning us money, but they wouldn't dare with the Bush regime in power. In the even that China pulls it's investments, this administration will no doubt step up the conquest of the ME.

And that means nukes. Quite a bunch of nukes.

Sure, everyone's economy would collapse with ours, but whoever controls the oil for the next few decades before fusion is viable will hold the mortgage on the future of the human race.

I know there is more to the dynamic than that, but we're in trouble either way;

We keep the administration intact and suffer the loss of our rights, our environment, our economy, and our freedoms...

-OR-

We lose the administration and our superpower status likely goes with them.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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2. ... yeah but we're still stuck with the Cabal ...
.... it would have been nice if people woulda come out of their comas before last November ...
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:41 PM
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20. George W. Bush lost the 2004 election
The history books will show this.

!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:46 PM
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25. . . . and weeks later was Inaugurated. . .
history books will show that, too.

and all our protestations elsewise don't change the reality that enough people didn't turn against him last year to make election theft impossible. . .
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:58 PM
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32. Right to both.
Sure it was stolen. That's pretty obvious. At this point though, our only hope is make the numbers so huge that they will be too frightened of the public reaction to steal it again.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:03 PM
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33. The thing is, they tried that last time and it didn't work.

Maybe that's why Clinton and Carter are stepping up now and openly talking about * and the stolen 2000 election. You get the sense that there really isn't a game plan here.

The Congressional Black Caucus is our best shot at election reform. They have real leaders there.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:07 PM
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35. Boxer/Conyers '08!
pretty please? At least we'd have CBC access to the White House then.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:49 PM
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54. I'd walk for them. The more I think about it, the more the CBC
seems like the last spot of sanity in our government.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 03:01 PM
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57. agree......so sad US always seems to depend on blacks to save it
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:29 PM
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41. Sometimes you have to wade through mud to get to higher ground.
Maybe the American people will wake up. It appears that bush's approval rating is in the upper 30's now, and that could put the Republican party in peril.

Let's get to work to make 2006 a victory for the people of America.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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3. And that's the Gallup poll... nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:43 PM
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21. Nominated, btw - put it on the Greatest page, folks
If not for the poll numbers, then because we need more Batman posts on the Greatest page... :P
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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4. About Time!
Any bets as to when it drops under 30%?
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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6. Reason number 57 that I am conviced
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 12:31 PM by meganmonkey
this weekend's events in DC WILL GET MEDIA COVERAGE!!!

:bounce:

on edit: and the marches that will be occurring all over the country in conjunction...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:08 PM
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36. YIPPIE!
I'm sure it'll be a big event too!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:52 PM
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55. Hey! My mom and bro will be in D.C. and there are multiple
marches here in San Francisco.

I want to organize the comedy community: "Impeach Bush / We have ENOUGH material."

:rofl:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Bwa ha ha!
:rofl:

Hope things are going well for you, beth!

:hi:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:30 PM
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7. WOW! That's leaves just his family...
..and the beneficiaries of his no-bid contracts still supporting him! Has any president ever polled lower?
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:00 PM
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43. Has any president ever polled lower?
Not in my lifetime... I don't think.

Nixon may have come close right before he resigned, but I don't have any statistics to back it up.




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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:30 PM
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50. Nixon was at 27% when he resigned
I remember it from a textbook I had in a PolySci class. It had the charts of all the presidents from FDR to Clinton.

If Bush was on there he'd be lower than Clinton, Bush I, Reagan or Carter ever got.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:31 PM
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8. Wow... CNN/USA Poll is accurate for change. I wonder what's happenning
with them?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:37 PM
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51. I'm wondering if whomever is really in charge
has given up on him.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:31 PM
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9. Yes - he's an embarassment and a symbol of shame.
"the nation has turned its back on him."
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:32 PM
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10. My bad - sorry DUers!
This poll is Bush's leadership regarding Iraq - not his overall job rating. Sorry........
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:06 PM
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34. How come you didn't edit it to correct your comments?
Just wondering...
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:11 PM
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40. PLEASE change the headline whilst you can
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 01:12 PM by faithnotgreed
i didnt think this sounded right
although they may be the real numbers i know this isnt what had been reported

when i saw your op i checked the date today and since this poll was a couple days ago i didnt think it was right
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:32 PM
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11. Georgie isn't doing very well.......
Knock a little off, given this is GALLUP to boot.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:32 PM
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12. No wonder he was hawking terror on the teeveee today.
Funny that the Florida hurricanes benefitted him...
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:32 PM
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13. N.B., This is *not* general approval but only for Iraq.
nt
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:33 PM
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14. Whoa!
Now we need to translate that into Republican losses in Congress next year.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:33 PM
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15. This poll shows me one thing, that 32% of Americans are fucking idiots.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 12:34 PM by WeRQ4U
What are they watching/listening/reading?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:52 PM
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28. That's always my first thought too!
I can accept maybe 10-15 are borderline mentally retarded or psychotic - but 32%?
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:34 PM
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16. Katrina
has been a complete disaster and I don't think he can recover. He looked like a dope and uncaring and I think once and for all people saw who he really is.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:34 PM
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17. Holy Moly is Right!
That is the lowest I've seen his rating since 2000. We might finally be getting some vindication.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:35 PM
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18. Isn't that disapproval rating higher than the disapproval for Vietnam
right before the war was ended?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:36 PM
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19. The same 32% it's always been..(The Clinton haters)
All during the impeachment drama, there was 32% who were always against..

It's the 'HUGH' majority that is the rabid-right.. They claim to be the majority, but are (and always have been) only about 30%..

media never seems to tell us that though:(
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:43 PM
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22. Here's the big problem...Georgie doesn't give a shit!
He's proved that time and again by totally disregarding the will of the people. This morning he said "The war is beyond Iraq. It's a global war." The man is totally out of control.

Peace.
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orion9941 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:44 PM
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24. 32%?
Hmm...I guess you will never be able to sway the 'faithful' from the goose stepping flock.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:47 PM
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26. Just as important:
only 1% unsure. The fence sitters, the ones who disapproved but supported him 'in a time of war' are gone.

He's not fooling them anymore. (I personally don't see how he ever did in the first place, but that's beside the point.)
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:48 PM
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27. Well, only 32% approve of George's handling *of Iraq*.
Those numbers have been down for a while. They're still abysmal, but that question only pertains to one issue.

According to Gallup, his total job approval is around 40%, which seems to be about average. Who knows if that's accurate or not? In any case, it sucks for George. So it makes me happy.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:09 PM
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61. His overall approval is 38-40% by most polls. But that's not "average"
Most presidents stay in the mid to upper 50s, as I recall. It's when they dip below 45% they need to worry.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:16 PM
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63. Oh, definitely. It's not good news for George, by any means.
Just pointing out, because the OP seemed to imply that 32% was his overall AR.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:54 PM
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30. 67% don't support the troops and hate freedom!!
I don't need to add this do I? :sarcasm:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:27 PM
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49. No, only
we few that had the sense to see this all before-hand are the traitors. ;)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:38 PM
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52. Oh yeah, I forgot
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:54 PM
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31. Wow
:wow:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:10 PM
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38. When You Start To Get Humor E-mails...
that contain the picture of * and Daddy fishing the streets of NOLA, there is a big problem. Lets hope this sentiment extends to Republicans in congress as well, for 06'.

Jay
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:11 PM
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39. I just emailed this to Billy - lol
Had to rub it in his face.
MMMMmmmmm- feels good. Better than a loofah.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:02 PM
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45. but is it better
...than a falafel?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:30 PM
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42. In his sad little speech today, (ostensibly about "ter-ism", but
really about his plummeting numbers)Bush had a panicky look in his eyes, despite laying on the "believe me!" look drunks so often employ.

The poor little boy looked unconvinced of most all that he said. So much for the "strong leader" song and dance we've endured and suffered under for five years.

Now we're finally down to brass tacks. America, it's our move.

George W Bush and his cronies must go.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Why would "terrists" want to risk anything right now?
Bushco and Mother Nature are doing a great job .
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:23 PM
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47. With the protest on the 24th, little cowboy George had to
draw the plastic six-guns from his vinyl holster.

Head them con-sarned peace lovers off at the pass.

Good luck, president Hop-along.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #44
60. another reason for no terrorist attack: whistleblowers
there have been enough that the Bushies might be afraid someone will blow it for them if they tried to do another 9/11.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:06 PM
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46. There is that magic 70% figure
It is probably more like 75% now. This regime must go. Where is our clean up crew?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 03:27 PM
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58. We'll have to hire one in '06
with our votes.

Diebold, go away.
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:27 PM
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59. This could explain his recent drinking problem --
if true.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:10 PM
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62. Wow, I also read this in Moore' site
"It's a mistake to assume that somehow this is a short-term problem caused by Katrina. This is just a continuation of the track he's been on since January," said Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup poll.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=4203
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