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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:39 PM
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Rita Is Now A Cat 4
A weakening storm that hits the least populated area possible would provide us with a much needed break...
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:46 PM
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1. Cat 4 is nothing to breathe a sigh of relief about.
Neither is Cat 3 if it gets there.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:48 PM
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2. nope but if it weakens a bit more and hits a less populated area that is
good...
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:52 PM
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3. not good, this gives the eye-wall cycle time to build back up
if it did this tomarrow or right before the landfall, it would have been better. But doing this today could mean that the storm will be at the peek of an eye-wall cycle at landfall.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:53 PM
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6. it will hit cool water again though...
i am trying to be positive....

prepare for the worst and hope for the best....
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:56 PM
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10. Problem is some people look at it "weakening" and assume they are safe
Anything over a Cat 2 is something to get the hell away from. Even a Cat 2 is nothing to sneeze at.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:52 PM
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4. Could it be that it weakens over nighttime when it's a bit cooler?
Would the afternoon heat also crank it up again? Or is the change in temperature between night and day too minor to be a factor?
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:53 PM
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7. IIRC nighttime is when they build.

...something to do with warmth in the upper clouds. My memory is fuzzy though.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:40 PM
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15. I think it's the difference between the cooler air at night and the
warm water, which doesn't lose as much heat at night as the air does.

So, yeah, it could build back up again by morning.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:54 PM
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9. It's The Water Not The Ambient Temperature
nt
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:53 PM
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5. Once a cat5, always a cat5.

The storm surge doesn't die with the winds. Katrina taught us that much.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:54 PM
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8. A better measure of the intensity is the pressure.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 12:55 PM by kick-ass-bob
edit: 915 MB.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:56 PM
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11. 915 is very low. Not as low as 897, but 897 can not be maitained.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:57 PM
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12. Yes it is very low.
Andrew was 922.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:58 PM
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13. Maybe the storm surge, the water, slows down the wind?
It seems like when these hurricanes change directions somewhat, they always lose a little speed also. As I recall, Katrina turned back to the East just before it hit Gulfport and Biloxi and went from a Cat 5 to a Cat 4 also? I also heard one expert say that the water surrounding New Orleans was deeper than most of the Gulf coast and that made for largerstorm surges? Makes sense, I guess...
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:02 PM
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14. may re-intesify overnight according to this report - new eyewall forming
SEPT 22, 2005 / 12:25 PM

HURRICANE RITA BEGINS EYE WALL REPLACEMENT
LANDFALL FURTHER EAST - GREATEST THREAT HIGH ISLAND,TX TO CAMERON, LA
POST LANDFALL MAJOR FLOOD THREAT

Latest RECON data and satellite imagery confirm that an eye wall replacement cycle has begun, and this has
led to some further weakening in the storm.

The storm is located near 25.4N/88.8W -- and the central pressure has risen to 915mb. In addition, the 18NM
diameter eyewall has just 'opened up' to the SE, revealing the developing outer eyewall with a 45NM diameter.
The MAX winds have also eased back to around 155mph -- a borderline CAT 5 intensity. Even more telling, the
thermal eyewall temp gradient of the INNER eye has dropped to 4°C indicating the inner wall will soon collapse
entirely, and the outer ring of convection will become the primary eye wall. Once that completes (in 2-hrs) -
the new , wider diameter eyewall will begin shrinking down again, and will most likely lead to some
re-intensification of the wind speeds - if not the pressure itself. That would likely occur overnight.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/SteveGregory/show.html
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:45 PM
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16. As much as I want the storm to weaken, this is just the eye-wall...
collapsing. That means that the last cycle (in which the storm went from Cat. 2 to Cat. 5) is over. Once the eye-wall begins to rebuild, it will begin to gain more strength, especially considering where the storm is over the Gulf right now.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:17 PM
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17. This is NOT good when CAT5 down to CAT4 and still have over
24 hours before the land fall. This mean, it can rebuild the strength much stronger before this thing hit land. This is my understanding.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:35 PM
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18. Yeah, but she's heading over cooler waters
so should weaken a bit
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