It just struck me what all the areas hit by the hurricanes share

[jobycom]

Oil. From Pascagoula, New Orleans, Lake Charles and Beaumont, the hurricanes took aim on refineries, rigs, pipelines, and pretty much the whole oil industry.

Just as a counter to fundies who see some divine message in this. Tell them God is attacking the oil industry to tell us to get rid of Bush.

[NMDemDist2]

1. i thought the same, Mother Earth is trying to get rid of the pollution

factories :rofl:

[President Jesus]

5. well. don't let me see you later cryin' about $5 a gal gasoline

because that's what the destruction of the 'pollution factories' is going to cost us.

[CascadeTide]

8. good to see someone is happy with the status quo...

[QC]

15. And good to see someone is able to post something smug and trivial.

Wouldn't be DU without that.

[The Magistrate]

17. Still, Sir

It will drive up the costs of everything from I-Pods to potato chips and string cheese, and harm most those wiht least.

[QC]

19. That is precisely my point.

These posts from the "I wish gas would hit $10 a gallon so that people would ride their bicycles to work like my wonderfully virtuous self does" crowd have gotten really old.

With energy prices at the levels they are expected to hit soon, people will be freezing to death in their homes this winter, yet a good many pampered, privileged people are exulting over the whole thing, thinking it will somehow affect the rich, who have come out of every past economic crisis in better shape than before. As you point out, the people who will suffer most are those least able to bear it.

[Quixote1818]

21. The short term impacts will be hard but I think in the long run

this will benefit the planet. It will force us to come up with beneficial solutions to some things that have threatened the planet for many years. Ten years down the road when Oil is really running out perhaps we will be ready to make the transition to other energies and pollution and environmental degradation will be slowed.

Hopfully!

[Quixote1818]

18. Maybe we needed a hard lesson

In the long run very high oil prices could be beneficial to the planet. They will make us conserve and perhaps find alternative cleaner burning fuel.

[QC]

20. In the short run, though, people will starve and freeze.

I agree about the need to make some radical changes in the way we live, but let's not forget how much suffering will result.

[Quixote1818]

22. That suffering will result sooner or later don't you think?

Better to get a moderate hit now than a devastating one later.

[QC]

25. There's no such thing as a moderate hit for the most vulnerable.

Natural gas at $12.00 a unit (and $3-5 heating oil) will mean that many people will not have heat this winter. We'll be fine here in Florida, but many in places like the upper midwest and the northeast will die. There's nothing moderate about that.

Those who can no longer afford to get to work because they live in areas with no mass transit, like most Americans, will be more than moderately hungry. Even those who can still get to work will end up in the same situation once food prices shoot through the roof while their wages continue to stagnate.

Like I said, I agree that we should have gotten away from depending so utterly on petroleum years ago, but we can't forget those who will suffer. It makes us as uncaring, in our own way, as the rich. I dread what is going to happen in the coming months. By spring we may very well be living in a country we don't recognize.

[Quixote1818]

28. I certainly understand your concerns

Too bad it's always the poor who end up taking the biggest hit from Imperial greed!

We should have listened to Jimmy Carter and his Energy plan from 25 years ago. Perhaps then no one would be in this situation now and the earth would be cleaner?

[NMDemDist2]

29. I have family back there in the storm and $5 gas will hurt me badly

never the less, my sense of irony is intact

[obxhead]

2. that is a great point.

I feel a new bumper sticker coming on.

[Erika]

3. Faux/Bushco news verified this area is most vital to the oil industry

Maybe Cheney and Bush, et al, might get the message. No, they worship the $ more than they do God.

[Cha]

4. bushwa bombs innocent Iraqis

to get to their oil but they couldn't quite pull that off.. And now Mother Nature is tearing a path through the bushwa's oil businesses. Spooky!

[morgan2]

6. God is just cleaning the poor people out of the way

so the good souls can come and drill their oil in peace.

[DawnneOBTS]

7. You would think that W would take this as a sign...

...that he should fucking resign already! Like the 10 plagues-how much destruction does he want brought upon his people? Oh, I forgot-he don't give a shit. My bad.

[pitohui]

9. yes we have oil in the gulf of mexico

but there's oil in the southern gulf of mexico too & noone's blasting away at mexico

i feel picked on

:cry:

[jobycom]

12. It's not the oil

It's the atrocities we've committed for the oil.

[pitohui]

16. who's this we?

i don't think "we" in the northern gulf of mexico contributed ANY atrocities, we are drilling & producing our own oil, not stealing it from iraq or what-have-you

new orleans voted very heavily for kerry

either god hates us or there is no justice but "we" committed no atrocity

[eleny]

10. And get a bicycle!

[titoresque]

13. with NO POP tires tubes! eom

[charlie]

11. Shrimp too

God hates shrimp.

[jobycom]

14. Hmm. Eating shrimp is an abomination according to the Bible, and this

is the leading shrimp eating place in America... You may be on to something.

[txindy]

23. You've just defined the Gulf of Mexico, 'Murikan Style

:patriot: It's almost a no-miss situation for a hurricane in the Gulf, unless it circles back on itself and hits Western Florida. Or do they have oil there, too? :shrug:

[jobycom]

24. Shhh....

I'm creating arguments against fundies, they wouldn't understand logic if you used it on them.

[txindy]

26. Ha, no argument there!

Then God hates oil, oil men, and those funded by them. He also hates people who profit from the oil that he put there MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO, starting when the dinosaurs walked the Earth, which was MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO.

:rofl:

[jobycom]

27. And he hates nations

that misuse the vast resources he gave them so badly that they have to slaughter innocent people in other nations to steal their resources.