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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:33 AM
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Guardsmen Sense Ghostly Presence In New Orleans
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:43 AM
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1. Holy crap - what an ignorant story.
"Like the power of nature, there is a power at work in New Orleans that defies explanation."

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_259121855.html

Defies explanation?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:49 AM
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2. Defies explanation?
Well, I have to say that that broom closet seemed kind of "singular" "unspeakable" and "blasphemous" to me. So did that rotten plaster ceiling for that matter!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:54 AM
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3. getting close to Halloweeen.
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:57 AM
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4. What a crock of fecal matter
Mother nature, at the direction of gawd, tosses a vicious hurricane at Louisiana. In the aftermath, the dead rise as ghosts? Or demons walk the earth hunting lost souls? Or the dear father has been dropping acid again. What a pathetic world view, looking for unseen spirits behind every rock. That is so silly, even a caveman would...

Oops, shit. I'm sorry I didn't know you guys were on DU......:evilgrin:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:01 AM
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6. Well, do a little research next time...
:D

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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:24 AM
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17. My apologies
Perhaps we could have DU treat you to the roast duck with mango salsa.


:D
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:08 AM
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9. Yes, but you have to admit, the little bald chaplin hold up the
"Orb of the World" over his head was pretty good.
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:20 AM
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15. The best part
Said Sgt. Robin Hairston of the California National Guard: "I was in my sleeping bag and I opened by eyes and in the doorway was a little girl. It wasn't my imagination."

Hairston wasn't the only one seeing things. Spc. Rosales Leanor had her own close encounter.

"I was using the restroom and I just saw a little shadow," Leanor said. "Kind of looming in front of me."

Could it be..... Michael Jackson or George Michael lurking about? Priesty will need that orb to beat off, er I mean, defend off an attack from the Michaels.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:00 AM
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5. Moods carry from one person to the next and it spreads...
Years ago I worked as an aide in a nursing home which used to be a hospital in NW Oklahoma. The building was four stories and it was the darkest and most ominious looking place I had ever seen.

It was an old place and this was about 20 years ago. Anyway, working graveyard with only a few of us at times it was outright eerie. The hallways were long with off-white walls and yellow tiled floors. There was no brightness you normally would expect in a medical facility.

We had to do some laundry down in the basement and I swear, it's like walking into a horror flick. The boiler room wasn't far and the noises scared the hell out of me more often than I care to remember.

It could be the type of place it was, but many swore ghosts were rampant and active most especially at night. There were times I believed it because of feelings I experienced. Sometimes it seemed like death was standing right behind me.

The only reasonable explanation I found was that the place gave off an eerie aura and it spread to the people who worked there.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:03 AM
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8. Unfounded beliefs carry from one person to the next
and in the absence of critical thought it spreads.

Like a virus.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:15 AM
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11. I disagree...
Moods can spread from one person to another. None of us believed in ghosts or anything like that. The building was right out of a horror flick given the size and how it was put together. It was a dark depressing place. In this case the environment played a factor.

I remember a high school in the news a while back where one teacher smelled a gas-like substance. She got a headache, eyes burning, nausea and a few other symptoms. They evacuated the school. A day later 50 or so others, I forget how many, reported the same symptoms. Nothing was ever found. It was attributed to the fear of possible poisoning.

These things can spread from one person to the next...virus-like, yeah, maybe...but the absence of critical thinking had little to do with it, IMO.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:02 AM
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7. Something very similar was described by locals after the Asian tsunami
For some time after the Asian tsunami, the fishermen would not go near the beach because - they said - of the foreign ghosts. According to a prevalent local belief, the ghosts of recently dead people don't "rest" or "pass on" until their burial site is prayed over by relatives. Since the rich foreigners were killed so quickly at the beach and had no one to pray over them so far from their homes, the expectation was that they would stay as ghosts. All it takes is one hint of a story, and it spreads like wildfire. It comes from trauma, fear, and expectation. There were plenty of local eyewitnesses who reported seeing those foreign ghosts on the Asian beaches. They said that the ghosts didn't know they were dead. Fit the local expectations very well, and I suspect a causal relationship.

In New Orleans, who knows? I would not call the people who report these phenomena nuts and certainly not liars. In extreme conditions, our minds try to make stories that make "sense." If someone saw something odd, it's the most natural thing in the world that it would evolve into a ghost story and then spread like wildfire. Ghost stories are very contagious.

I'm more concerned about the "end of the world" Revelations page story, which I flatly do not believe. All too many people believe we are approaching the end of the world and want to see some sign that God is real and will be there for them. I'd expect these stories would be even more contagious than the ghost stories.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:30 AM
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19. at least in thailand the priests performed rites to help the ghosts
of the people who died suddenly. as opposed to ranting about satan at them.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:48 AM
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20. Good point. Easy to see which kind of ritual and practitioner would give
more comfort and healing to the survivors. The cruelty of narrow, ignorant people can be unbelievably huge at times like this. And they're supposed to be worshipping a loving god????
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:10 AM
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10. That chaplain creeped me out more than any of the experiences
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 02:10 AM by chalky
mentioned. He reeked of glazed eyed, Jim Jones fanaticism.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:15 AM
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12. No sh*t
Who was that psycho chaplain? New Orleans is based in cannibalism? It's a dark city? And how come they got that bible open in the middle when Revelations is closer to the end?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:16 AM
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13. Now that would weird me out...
but having him say that would probably make me laugh. :rofl:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:17 AM
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14. In the name of Jesus Chris
:rofl:
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:21 AM
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16. Thanks for posting n/t
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:26 AM
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18. Ghosts are very real
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 02:28 AM by symbolman
and I don't buy BS usually, but I've seen some wierd stuff too many times not to believe in them..

While stationed in England in the 70's we peeled off of a tour of a castle, 2 other Air Force guys and I, all ready with candles and snuck down into the basement of the castle - later we found out it had been a prison and torture area - we climbed down into the dark on a small wood ladder, lit our candles and looked around. The candles made strange shadows on the wall, but that wasn't scary, tho the walls were stained (we later found out that was from BLOOD) and then a HUGE WIND came up and blew out all of our candles leaving just that one little door above the ladder for a light source.. it immediately got deathly cold and we just freaked, there was NO WAY there could have been WIND in that basement, there were NO openings at all and it was underground.. that happened on Purpose by something..

So we turned into the Three Stooges and took turns grabbing the guy ahead of us and throwing him behind us all the way up that ladder :) til we got out..

Later we got a hold of the tour person and asked her why they didn't take people in the basement, she said that something evil lived down there due to the tortures, etc that it wasn't safe..

I said, "What, like you could step on a nail or cut yourself on rust iron?"

She said, "No. Like I said, there's something lives down there, even WE don't go there, no one will.."

I got a million ghost stories, some I think are actually some sort of "recordings" made in the surroundings and released under strain or stress so people feel or see them, like a natural holograph..

But I believe there are actual evil things we can't begin to comprehend in the natural world, best left untouched like Bush or Roberts, just look in HIS EYES..

That was the town of VOO DOO as well remember, probably cursed Bush for life, it may be the one thing he can't get away from, 10,000 souls he won't account for following him around screaming in his head so he can't finish a sentence, and no amount of money will STOP IT.

I really believe him killing that city cursed him, I know I FELT all that pain from as far away as Hawaii, it was like a Star Trek thing, where a whole planet dies and the onboard psychic feels all their screams at once.

Besides, if you've ever been in a place where there's NOTHING alive and nothing makes any noise you WILL hear and see things, the mind is too active, it gets used to noise and craves it so it makes stuff up :)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:57 AM
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21. neat post! Thanks!
Now it's past time for bed - should be interesting dreams. n/t
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:10 AM
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22. I've had experiences before.
I guess that makes me, too, an idiot who is full of shit.
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