CA. voter check-in thread.

[maveric]

Just voted No on recall, Yes on Bustamante.

[CMT]

1. what part of the state do you live in?

How was turnout?

[maveric]

5. La Mesa (East San Diego County). Its light right now.

This is a heavy repug area so perhaps if the voters stay away out here its a plus for Davis.

[shepard]

128. La Mesa

Ah La Mesa.The city that looks down on El Cajon.Ahe'ee Nehemah

[section321]

18. Los Angeles County

There was a long line, but LA county is only running about 25% of the normal number of polling stations.

I didn't vote at my usual place.

[maveric]

19. Neither did I.

New polling place here too.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. Voted by absentee

No, recall- yes, Bustamante, no on both ballot props

[mindfulNJ]

3. Thank you!

may you be fruitful and multiply :)

[ronnykmarshall]

4. Absentee

Both my partner and I : No Recall , Yes Cruz , NO 54 & 53.

My parents in Bakersfield: Same votes.

[ronnykmarshall]

30. Oppps

Forgot to add: I'm in West Hollywood.

[arcane1]

6. same here. I thought Arianna dropped out?????

she was on my ballot, but I thought she bailed last week....

:shrug:

[Terwilliger]

7. if it was paper, they couldn't update it

I'm glad they saved the money against having to do constant reprints

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. She did....

but the ballots had already been approved and printed, so she and Ueberoth (sp?) were still on.

[arcane1]

16. weird, so I guess she could still win, in theory..

even after dropping out..?

No matter, I gave my vote to Cruz

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. All the candidates are still on the ballot including Simon

Ueberroth etc. There are 135 names on all ballots.

[ronnykmarshall]

31. Ballot would not change

Even Simon and Uberoft are still on the ballot.

[not systems]

9. Just voted in Oakland

The poll was very busy much higher turnout
than last fall.

There was an anti-Arnold air to the crowd with
people very concerned about getting to vote.

I saw one couple vote provisionaly when their names
were not on the record.

I voted using the Diebold? touch screens. It was
a little hard to find Cruz in the long list that was
about 8 pages long.

I over heard an older fellow frustrated asking where
is Bustamante.

No recall Yes Bustamante No 53 No 54

[Athletic Grrl]

111. Cruz was on page 4

I also saw Arianna and McClintock as I quickly scanned for the B's. I think Ahhhnold was toward the end of our county's ballot. Thank God.

[noiretextatique]

114. Oakland (Diebold) Voter here too

i just got back. out polling place was relatively empty...only one other person when i got there, then two more when i left. people are starting to get off work though, so it should be packed in the next two hours.

[cally]

11. Just turned in my absentee ballot at a polling place

No on the recall, yes on Bustamante, no on both propositions.

Turnout seemed somewhat light but that's normal for this time of day.

[OKNancy]

12. Please god I hope Chris Matthews is right once in his life

Just heardd him say that his prediction is-
Davis recalled but an upset by Bustemante.

[David__77]

13. Later today: Bustamante yes, recall no!

For now, I will be getting friends to the polls.

[LeftCoast]

14. Just voted in SF!

Turnout seemed pretty high. Lines to vote, etc. Keeping fingers crossed!

[twilight]

15. absentee also

No on the recall; yes on Bustamante; no on both props.

Spoke with an elderly woman I know last night (83 years old) and she voted the same way ...

Seems everyone I know has voted this way also.

:dem:

[section321]

17. I was in line at 7:15am....

I can't wait for the results!!!

[nolabels]

20. Voted No on recall, Yes on Bustamante

The polling place seemed like it had half normal traffic, which would seem good to me, because it is mostly a repug area.

[twilight]

21. oh that is good news

Probably they are ashamed to vote! :D

:kick:

[neomonkey]

22. very Central LA county checking in

No on the recall, yes on Bustamante

polling place was EMPTY

[hedda_foil]

24. Your Central LA County -- Dem or Puke?

Please!

[maveric]

25. Punch Card or Black Box in LA?

SD county still has punch card.

[neomonkey]

116. answers...

I'm in a heavily Dem district and we have punch card ballots.

I'm sure hoping against hope, trying to brave the negative torrent of news from the whores in the media.

All we can do is cross our fingers for now...

[xxqqqzme]

23. mailed my ballot last week.

My daughter, son, and recent (July) transplanted (from Iowa) friend - we all voted by mail...
NO RECALL

Bustamante - yes

Orange County here.

[javadu]

26. I know it is a little late for this question

But, how do you interpret voter turnout.

Does high turnout indicate that all of the clueless people who haven't got a brain turnout because they think it would be cool for the terminator to be governer?

Or, does a high turnout mean that the dems are succesful at getting their people to the polls?

I realize that this question will probably be answered by the end of the day, but I see all the news reports about long lines at polls, etc. and I am not sure how to interpret them.

[slackmaster]

33. It's a very good question

That nobody can answer until the votes are all counted.

[xxqqqzme]

34. it is generally considered good

4 dems if the turn-out is high as there R more registered Dems in CA than rethugs.

[GinaMaria]

93. GMA reported the opposite this AM

They said that in this election, the repugs were hoping for a good turnout and the dems for a low turnout. Also said that is the opposite of the usualy stances of the parties :shrug:

Who knows. I don't believe anything I hear on the "news" any more.

[Terwilliger]

103. keep that in mind

if it turns out that bigger turnout means more votes for Dems, then it behooves somebody who wants AHH-nold to win to tell Dems not to vote

[0rganism]

89. It depends where the lines are

If the long lines are in Fresno or San Diego, you can bet its Ahnold's minions. If they're in Oakland, SF or East LA, it's probably Democrats.

[mulsh]

27. absentee in Oakland

wife & I, my father, brother & sister-law no recall, yes bustamante, no on the props.
My republican mother and father-in-law voted no recall.

[meti57b]

28. voted at 9am PST ...

in the Los Angeles area, NO on recall, YES on Bustamante. The polls were busier than usual but then there were only 1/3 as many polling places as the regular elections.

[Name removed]

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[slackmaster]

36. Welcome to DU, and nice knowing you

It IS possible to express contrary viewpoints here as long as you follow the rules, which IMO are pretty clear.

[Emboldened Chimp]

37. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

[corarose]

40. Byby

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[carthage71]

47. See and the threats start coming

Exactly what I figured. I am a middle of the road guy. But the reputation of these forums are proving out right before my eyes. I don't agree with the general stance and the recal and I get these response. lol....open to debate, but only if it is one sided. lol

[Emboldened Chimp]

48. Those aren't threats...brush-offs, sure, but not threats

[hang a left]

71. Oh yeah sure you are middle of the road, on the right side, eh?

Try using your spell and grammar check.

[PaDUer]

120. Looks right side--

to me..you can always tell who they are!

[sybylla]

79. Hence "DemocraticUnderground"

no false advertising here.

[Judson39]

96. That was not nice

Can you be more polite next time.

[imax2268]

49. See ya

freeper...

[carthage71]

52. lol Im not a freeper

but you sure now how to run people away. Again, because I feel the best hope for this state is to get fresh faces and then we'll elect a new gov in 3 years. They SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY AND FREELT admit it. I hold my elected official accountable. I don't give free passes one way or the other. Again I am middle of the road and already getting demonized by you guys. I decided to sign up, post with a see and wait attitude. That wait didn't take too long. And now I get called a freeper. Boy you sure know how to attract possible friends.

[Emboldened Chimp]

56. You had your chance in Nov. '02

to vote him out. He won fair and square. This isn't about overspending; it's about preserving the integrity of our elections. It's a right-wing power grab plain and simple. And the right-wing should share in the blame, at least, for the deficit because Pete Wilson rammed deregulation through, which allowed Enron and their ilk to game the markets. Now Pete Wilson's boys are running Arnie's campaign. Arnie also met with Ken Lay last year. If elected, Arnie will forgive Enron and toss the lawsuit. That is not acceptable. Enron and Kenny Boy must pay for what they did to us. Cruz and Davis have been trying like hell to make it so--but Arnie won't. Screw him and this bullshit recall.

[0rganism]

90. Look, come back two days after the election, and you'll get a conversation

Right now, there are a lot of very pissed off people voting to retain someone they just voted for a year ago. It's a hostile environment, not a good time for newbies. Use some common sense.

[slackmaster]

32. We had a nice little earthquake at 10:35 AM PDT

4 miles West of San Ysidro, just north of the Mexican border. Just enough to get everyone's attention for a few minutes.



http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/STORE/X9949649/ciim_display.html

[corarose]

44. God's trying to tell CA that the right wingers are from hell!

Just kidding but hey maybe he is trying to send a message!

[slackmaster]

50. It's a message and quite clear to me

"This is a test. Do you have enough drinking water, food, cooking fuel, medical supplies, and ammunition stashed for the Big One? This is only a test."

[maveric]

58. I felt it here in La Mesa.

It was one quick shake.

[slackmaster]

61. I'm in the Golden Triangle area

It was some vertical jolts and a rolling building. All the opium farmers dropped their balls of tarry goo and looked at each other in confusion.

[Emboldened Chimp]

35. voted this morning before work

No on recall, yes on Bustemante.

[hiphopnation]

38. No on recall Yes on Bustamante here

damn that felt good. :)

[DoveTurnedHawk]

39. How Late Are the Polls Open?

I need to go later in the day. Thanks!

DTH

[Demobrat]

43. 'Till seven.

I'm going after work too.

[Terwilliger]

92. EIGHT! not seven

[webtrainer]

41. My OC polling site was busy . . .

this morning. And at a different than usual location.

RECALL = NO
REPLACEMENT= BUSTAMANTE

[slackmaster]

53. So was mine in San Diego

Very busy. I had to wait for a booth.

I attribute it at least partly to the temporary consolidation of precincts for this election.

[hang a left]

72. North San Diego/Escondido

Not real busy, it is my usual polling place. Punch cards, asked me for my drivers license even though I was on the sheets and have been for years.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

42. GOING to VOTE right now!!-Los Angeles

Hopefully there's no Deibold--last time we had good 'ol puch cards with a paper trail.

I'm obviously voting
No
on the recall
NO on 53 --NO on 54

[bemildred]

45. No, Bustamante, No, No

Pasadena area, new polling place, heavy turnout.

[Kanola]

46. Here is Stanislaus County

Voted no on recall. Yes on Bustamante. No on 53 and 54 by absentee

[CoolerKing]

51. Here in the great city of Los Angeles...

No on Recall, Yes on Bustamente via absentee ballot.

I do have two (Republican) friends voting yes on the recall. One is a slavish Bush-lover who is voting for McClintock. The other hates Bush but is voting for Arnie (!!).

Most of my other friends were undecided but leaning towards No on the recall. Also at least one person at my office didn't even realize the election was today and has no plans on voting. Sad.

[Room101]

54. No on recall - Peter Camejo

54- NO
53- Abstain

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

62. Arnie says thanks

[Room101]

95. nothingshocksmeanymore - BATHOUGHT says your ignored

:puke:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

126. Wow. You wasted your vote?

I hope other Dean supporters have a more "inclusive" view of the 2 party process than you.

[realFedUp]

55. voted.

the chads were particularly harder to punch out this year....

[Greyskye]

57. No/Cruz/No/No

Voted by absentee last week.

No/Cruz/No/No
El Dorado County

[lebkuchen]

59. voted by FAX absentee

No/Bustamonte

and got a confirmation that it was received. I love papertrails.

[ronnykmarshall]

91. FAX absentee????

I've never heard of that.

[eleny]

60. I'm watching Davis on CNN and...

he said he voted No on the recall and he also voted for the best qualified candidate in the second part. Guess he voted for Bustamante, huh?

[slackmaster]

63. He probably voted for Gary Coleman

He was always on my "short" list.

[maveric]

64. Thats a good question.

Davis and Cruz have never hit it off very well. I just hope that he has the integrity to support the most electable member of his party, which is Bustamante.

[mitchtv]

65. absentee here , Cathedral City

NO ,CRUZ,NO ,NO going to walk over and check the polls . very mixed here freeper/gay/latino

[Baconfoot]

66. PLEASE READ: I HAD A PROBLEM VOTING

I'm going to post this question elsewhere and I don't anticipate any of you'd be in a position to provide an answer but:

I changed addresses in September and reregistered to vote at the DMV well before the deadline (9/12/2003). I received my sample ballot in the mail. This morning, I showed up at the polls and attempted to vote. I was informed that my name was not on the rolls and I would have to fill out a provisional ballot. This situation may turn out to have been a common situation as there wasn't enough time to adequately prepare for this election and many people move into California and from place to place in California each year.

On the provisional ballot envelope were boxes marked something like "registered and did not move but was not found on the rolls" and "moved and did not register". THere was NO box marked "moved and registered but was not found on the rolls." My envelope was checked for "did not register" and I was required to provide two forms of proof of where I reside. (As one of my proofs, since you could use mail addressed to yourself, I used the sample ballot which had been mailed to me.) Now it is my understanding that these provisional ballots will not be counted until the eligibility of the voter in question is verified. My question is: Do you think this will skew the exit polls and perhaps the final results? My guess is that a disproportional number of NO on the recall votes will be sealed in those provisional ballot envelopes.
These votes will eventually be counted, but my worry is that in the meantime reports as to the current status of the election might be off.

There were PLENTY of provisional ballot people, surprised to find their names not on the rolls at my polling place. In my opinion, far too many.

[gristy]

68. Why are so many people are not on the rolls?

I just don't understand it. And welcome to DU, Baconfoot! :hi:

[proud patriot]

70. Here's Help I hope

http://www.ss.ca.gov/
I was able to find my polling place here after losing my
little card they send you ...Perhaps you're polling place
is different than you think ...
The California Secretary of State has an awesome website to
Help Any voter with problems
http://www.ss.ca.gov/

[Baconfoot]

85. Nope. I was at the right place.

I was very much in the correct location. The location was the location printed on my sample ballot. It is also the location which the came up when I looked it up on the internet and the location which came up when the person working the voting complaint phones looked it up.

[proud patriot]

102. I would deffinately

Follow-up on reporting this problem to election officials .

Good luck

[hang a left]

74. Hey Bacon, report the problem to the BBV site.

[Baconfoot]

88. It was punchcard. n/t.

[BevHarris]

108. BBVreport is also for punch card problems -- any voting problem

and we are getting a lot of voters kicked to provisional ballots there.

[nadinbrzezinski]

77. Conmtact the ACLU

Guess what I was not the only one dropped from ballots...

SHIT!

[nolabels]

80. Heard a report on radio that PFTAW 10 phone bank off the hook

The Org Peaple for the American Way had a bank with ten phones for problems reports that was ringing off the hook. If there can be a lot of problems even now, just think what will happen later on this afternoon.

[Baconfoot]

87. ANOTHER, BIGGER PROBLEM I DIDN'T MENTION IN MY EARLIER POST

I reported to the voting complaint people the following, which actually happened:

A woman who was filling out a provisional ballot was asked a question by a poll worker. THe woman responded that she didn't know why she was even filling out a provisional ballot as she had been registered at the same address for 9 years. The poll worker asked her if she had looked for her name on the rolls. She said that yes they had looked and she WAS on the rolls. Then the poll worker asked why she was filling out a provisional ballot and she indicated that the another poll worker had told her to. I'm not sure what happened to this woman and her ballot. I was busy filling out my own provisional ballot even though I was registered (though not, for some reason, on the rolls).

From the conversation I had with the complaint person, this appears to have been a problem for other people.

I am LIVID.
Just LIVID.

[hang a left]

101. Please go to the BBV site, they have reporters that will call you.

[Qutzupalotl]

104. Link to report VOTING PROBLEMS:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2003/09/25/question_form.txt

[U2Fanatic]

97. Does your last name begin with an O' or a Mc or something like that?

They had trouble finding my name on the rolls this morning because of that. It was spelled differently than my other family member. It took a lot of searching and I was getting freaked out.

[ronnykmarshall]

98. Call your local Democratic HQ

My mom had issues at her polling place in Bakersfield and she called the Democrats. They returned her call ASAP and got on it.


Everyone, PLEASE report ANY issues with voting problems.

[BevHarris]

106. Here's a follow up question on your provisional ballot

Did you have to fold it to put it in the envelope? There are many reports like yours, and one report says the envelope was too small so the voter was told to fold the ballot; however, the ballot says on it "do not fold" -- this is because the optical scan machine sometimes will not read a ballot with a fold mark.

Consider logging your experience here http://www.BBVreport.org where several such reports are beginning to appear. When they all appear in the same place, the pattern becomes more evident to the press.

Also, consider supplying me privately with your contact information so I can route bona fide members of the press to you as they follow up this story.

Bev Harris
[e-mail]

[noiretextatique]

115. report your story here: BBVreport.org nt

[ComerPerro]

122. It will depend on who you voted for

Vote "No", then thats too bad, "you should have registered".

Vote "Yes", then this is an outrage, and your vote should count.

[mkregel]

67. Fremont, CA saying No on Recall

Yes on Bustamante...oh yeah no and no on 53 and 54

[proud patriot]

69. Voted

No on recall
Yes on Cruz B.
Yes on 53
No on 54

:hi:

[Emboldened Chimp]

73. HEY, Los Angeles DUers! Check it out...

We're trying to get folks to come down to Father's Office in Santa Monica for a celebration in honor of the recalls defeat; or we'll drown our sorrows. Either way, come down and hang out...

Here's the original thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=244042

[Snow]

75. No/Cruz/No/No from Altadena, (Polls are open till 8PM, btw)

which is "upper" Pasadena, unicorporated. Voted at about 8am, new polling place, which was pretty busy. Altadena's split by Lake st into white/repug & mixed/democrat - the mix includes a lotta afr-ams. The polling place serves the west side of things, so it looks like a good demo turnout.
On edit - shoulda mentioned, we're using punch cards, and the poll workers are reminding everyone to check for chads...

Oh, and, they had me registered in the names list book, but didn't have my address in the address book. They said I could vote there anyway.

[ariesgem]

113. From another Du'er living in Altadena

Howdy neighbor!!!:hi:

No: Recall
Yes: Cruz
No - 54 No - 53

[Blitz]

76. I voted in downtown San Francisco

at about 11:30 a.m.

Turnout was very light ... no lines (this was at the Rincon Center, for those of you who are familiar with the area). The machine that took our ballots had a counter. My ballot was no. 168. I have no idea if it had previously turned over or even if it started from 001, but there it is, for what it's worth.

[a_random_joel]

78. Just voted

No Recall
Yes Bustamante.

My wife and several co-workers as well.

[nansocal]

81. 4 of us here....

in l.a. county just voted no recall, yes bustamante.

[onefreespiritedchick]

82. Absentee vote here

Noon Recall. Yes on Bustamante. No on 54.

[L.A.dweller]

83. Hey, just voted no on everything there was to offer

and voted for Bustamante as a replacement candidate.
As my sister and I drove away from the voting location, in Eagle Rock, I saw a sign that said "Swarchzennegar, The Groping Man," on a telephone pole. Too funny.
Oh, and my boyfriend has voted no as well.

[fizzana]

84. Sherman Oaks voter

Voted at 7.20 AM after taking my kid to school. It was quite crowded but 3 precincts have been combined into one so it's impossible to tell how voting is. Sherman Oaks is a relatively affluent and marginally hip part of the San Fernando Valley.

It's about 90% white, a large Jewish contingent and very Democrat. There wasn't much evidence of posters etc around here but then again there never is.

No on recall
Bustamanate
No on 54
Yes on 53

I figured on 53 the more the state is tied down by spending mandates the less they can screw with the budget.

[Duncan Grant]

86. No on recall, Yes on Bustamante, No on 54 n/t

[symbolman]

94. voted No on recall, Yes on Bustamante.

Here near Santa Barbara - my wife mailed in her Absentee on Friday and I got one in the mail (we weren't sure if they were using the machines locally) - so I took my absentee ballot unopened into the polling place..

packed with lil old ladies, one of whom told me to throw away my absentee, so I tore it in half and tossed it in a trash can, THEN she told me to fill out a PROVISIONAL ballot.

I asked if I shouldn't have just filled out my absentee ballot since I couldn't vote in the regular way, and she said, "I'll be alright, don't worry.." -

Filled out the Provisional, folded it and stuck it in the envelope (can you READ a FOLDED Ballot in a machine?) and handed it over to another lil old Lady who stuck it in the side of the ballot box in a slot. I later joked that I didn't like the smell of the smoke coming out of the ballot box where my provisional ballot went in..

My wife's take on this is that this will be a PROVISIONAL scam - the excuse being NOT ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE - the Media will call this for The GROPER based on THEIR Calculations and then they will begin to count the Provisional ballots while THE GROPER screams at Davis to LEAVE the State House.. for weeks..

I want to know exactly HOW MANY of these Provisionals are DEMOCRATS as compared to the average -- look at Alameda touch screens screwing up so they of course are trotting out the PROVISIONALS -

Does Berkely sound like a potential PROGRESSIVE hotbed of vote?

Yep.. they fooled us, they are using the PROVISIONALS - so we can't complain about a paper trail..

bastards.

[MoonGod]

99. Where my mom works happens to be a polling place in a right-wing area...

... She said that when she dropped by work this morning at about 8am, the parking lot was completely full and they were lined up out the door. Of course, that's the general rule with Republicans, I guess... vote early and often.

Also, even though they're Republicans, many of those were probably McClintock votes, given that she's right next to his district.

[U2Fanatic]

100. Southern Riverside County

No on recall, yes bustamonte, no on both propositions.

[Mz Pip]

105. Done!

No on Recall, Yes on Bustamante.

THe turn out seems to be higher than predicted. This should be a good thing.

MzPip
:dem:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

107. SF Sunset district...

SF - southern Outer Sunset district - 10:45 this morning
The place was empty (but don't know if that's normal. I'm new to that area)
The neighborhood is mostly white/asian middle-class, and "conservative" by San Francisco standards.

We used the optical scan thing, and the reader appeared to have an incrementing counter on it which read "95" I don't know how high the counter goes, though. For all I know, that means 1095. Judging by the number of people, I'd say 95 votes was about right.

[maveric]

109. Just brought my son to vote.

he went No on recall, yes on Cruz, no on 53 & 54.

[Athletic Grrl]

110. No/Cruz times two (hubby too)

and a big fat NO on 54!

[confusionisnext]

112. No/Bustamante in SF SOMA

Boyfriend voted the same. Not many people there (3:15 pm) but it should pick up as people come home from work, school, etc.

[jenk]

117. checking in for my great uncle

He's 62 and his wife is 59, they haven't voted in an election since 1988.

both just cast NO for recall, YES for Cruz.

for what it's worth....

[leesa]

118. I thought it was interesting the way the names were manipulated on the

ballot. The very first name was similar to Arnolds and his was the very last. Very prominent and very easy to find. Have they not heard of alphabetizing?

[fizzana]

125. The names were rotated for each district

so the list you saw would not be the list that I saw. They did this so everyone would get a chance to be near the top and the bottom in different districts.

[Cat Atomic]

119. No on Recall, Yes to Bustamante (Long Beach)

.

[_NorCal_D_]

121. No on recall, Yes on Bustamante!

I will vote at 6:00PM Pacific.
B-)

[Emillereid]

123. Four votes against the recall and for Cruz

at our household here in Oak Park, CA just inside Ventura County. Did some get out the vote work in the last few days. Stupid voting place in Thousand Oaks that I was assigned to wouldn't keep their list of those who voted up to date so it was impossible to make sure our for sure voters actually got out and voted. Frustrating -- the law says they are supposed to update the list every couple of hours but these dingdongs refused.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

124. Marin:dot bubble ballot, feed it into an 'AccuVote' electronic box.

No one but me at 2pm in the heart of Marin county, San Anselmo school polling site.
I registered by mail a week before the cut-off date for doing so and my name was found easily on the rolls. I had verified my registration by phone last week.
No to recall, Bustamante, No on 53 and 54.
Getting ready to recall the Gropinator, if necessary.

[peterh]

127. Absentee

No on recall….yes on Bustamante…no on 53…no on 54

[Retrograde]

129. Santa Clara, punch cards

about 10 people when I voted at 3 this afternoon. Other than the street construction outside no problems with the polling place, even though it's not the usual one for this precinct.

I've always spot-checked my punch card before turning it in: I don't quite trust them to get aligned correctly, but they've always seemed to work before. Bustamante was on the top of one of the pages.

I did resist the urge to vote for Thunder Trek Kelly (who wants to bring the Armageddon and tax vice) and voted correctly.

linda