Good Morning, Baby-Killers' Underground!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

Ain't it a hoot?

If you want to vilify your political opponent, what a better way. Pick an issue, take it to the nth degree and sell it to the... well, let's just say the "gullible." Bingo! Even the use of a "morning after" pill is smashing the head of an infant against the wall.

The drone-like behavior of these "right to lifers" is astounding. They scream about the sanctity of human life in the morning, support the death penalty in the afternoon and crow for war in the evening. THIS is why so many Republicans court the fundies. They are easy to lead, they are easy to rally and they don't ask questions.

So, they call us "baby killers" to give the mental message to their drones that all of us Democrats stand around bashing the brains out of babies while we're not at NAMBLA meetings. Forget logic, forget personal rights and damn the moderate, you're a Right Wing Republican or you're a Baby Killing Queer Communist.

THESE kind of thinkers make up the Republican base of today.

[madeline_con]

1. Ask a "pro-lifer" what we'll do with unwanted children....

I did the other day. My coworker's eyes got a vacuous look, and she repeated her mantra against abortion. :eyes:

[Nightwing]

4. Great question to pose

When I'm confronted by anti abortion extremists, I always ask them the following.

Let's say you get your way and Roe v Wade is overturned and all babies will be born the majority of which will be born into extreme poverty.

Are you as willing as I to pay more in taxes to support these children??

Trust me, you should see the looks I get when I ask that question which I already know the answer to.

[madeline_con]

17. Interesting situation where I work....

One (white) coworker is adopting a Chinese infant. Both coworkers are opposed to abortion.

I'm trying to formulate a comment that casually mentions the preference for white infants; that those available aren't "white" enough, and Chinese is.

:evilgrin:

[FreedomAngel82]

42. I'll have to remember that one!

[Child_Of_Isis]

6. I always ask them if they plan on adopting

or supporting them with "their tax dollars".

[Ian David]

21. The Republicans are The Party of Genocide. n/t

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

24. The support will come from the same magic purse that's paying

for the war and the hurricanes.

[blondeatlast]

25. Interesting tactic. One thing I've tried at the water cooler and the loung

is "what if it (unwanted pregnancy, hurricane and subsequent flooding, son enlisted for Iraq) happened to you?"

I have always gotten a similar reaction--they aren't able to function past the talking points.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

27. They're drones. Incapable of independent thought.

[Iris]

48. It's been my experience these sort of people think such things cannot

happen to them because they "play by the rules."

They have no empathy skills whatsoever, hence the vacuous looks.

[cquik18]

52. Ask a pro-lifer about unwanted children....

and he will start railing about the welfare state...."I ain't payin' for those niggers and wetbacks cranking out kid after kid with their gang-banger boyfriends!" Screw the fact that majority of people on welfare in America are white, and live in poor, mainly rural areas...the poor bastards think that that "W" sticker in their truck window is going to exempt them from paying $5 a gallon...or that their job won't get sent to Honduras...or that their kid or loved one won't get killed in Iraq or Afghanistan...

[5X]

2. Thats what they called me, just because of my bumper stickers

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[greekspeak]

5. Maybe you could have put up "republican zygote worshipper?"

They probably would not know what that means, would they?


Funny how Pukes want to be known as great followers of the great monotheistic God, isn't it? But they worship Shrub, the Bible, money, and zygotes instead.

[eallen]

9. That's more true than you might realize.

The moral axioms pressed by the anti-abortion crowd take them to some pretty extreme ends. They are starting to apply their rhetoric against everything that might prevent even implantation of a zygote. That includes the pill, the IUD, and other forms of birth control. They want to ban in vitro fertilization for fertility, because it requires the discarding of the embryos that aren't implanted. They really are zygote worshippers, and would implement their views in law, even though the results are insane.

[Aviation Pro]

13. This probably has something to do...

...with the fact that they abhor sex and find it dirty and disgusting. News flash to them, if God didn't want us to have sex why did He give us sexuality? Or are they defying the Almighty?

[eallen]

16. It's not that they hate sex, but that they love power.

Sex is fine, in their view, when it either reinforces the traditional family structure, or when it can be enjoyed illicitly with someone who is disempowered. They want law and society to enforce the madonna/whore dichotomy. That's not an opposition to sex per se, just a corraling of it.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

33. They don't HATE sex...

...they just hate sex when presidents have it with mutually consenting adults. But when Repug senators are running around shoving things up ladies' arses, it's all fine and dandy.

[FreedomAngel82]

43. Or the body parts and harmones

Eh?

[greekspeak]

18. What disgusting times we live in. Worshipping zygotes

Well, some zygotes. The ones in Iraq and New Orleans don't count.

[Ian David]

22. They need to outlaw abstinence. Every egg that goes to waste is murder

[blondeatlast]

26. You owe me a keyboard, fella!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[FlaGranny]

41. What about all those determined little

sperm? There must be something done for all those sad little sperm that never make it to the egg! Whatever was God thinking?

[annabanana]

10. they have a fetus fetish....n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

14. They are "pro birth". They love the fetus, hate the baby/person.

Their willingness to care for a fellow American (person?) ends when they start breathing air.

[madeline_con]

19. Very well said...

I get that from my Repug Mom. So totally "pro-life", but bitching out of the other side of her mouth about "welfare babies".

I honestly don't think they even see the hypocrisy. It's just not visible to them. (sigh)

[dorktv]

51. I always get this: But they should not be having sex!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

34. LOL n/t

[Pharlo]

15. No, sounds too distant -

'Republican Zygote Worshipper' does not carry the same weighted message as 'Democrat Baby Killer'.

Call them "Iraqi Baby Killers"

Then ask: "How many innocent Iraqi babies have your tax dollars killed today? Have you joined any anti-Iraqi baby killing protests?"

Then hit them with: "Save an innocent Iraqi baby's life today! Protest Bush's War of Lies in Iraq!"

Shove it so far down their throats they choke on it. I've found it to be very effective.


Edit: Used a plural when I needed a possessive. Got to be careful, wouldn't want to get blackballed as an ENEMY.

[Ian David]

23. Save White Fetuses, Kill Brown Babies. n/t

[SillyGoose]

28. I got an email from a RW relative about that penguin movie and

abortion. I responded with a question asking why the "pro-life" crowd supports the killing and maiming of innocent Iraqi kids in a shock and awe bombing campaign if they are "pro-life". The answer I got back was that Iraqi kids are "collateral damage" and you can't compare the 2. They just don't want to recognize the hypocrisy in their logic.

:banghead:

I also like to mention that the Vatican did not support the war in Iraq, called it an unjust war and said if you go to war in Iraq you go without God. They don't like to be confronted with that statement.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

29. Logic seems to make them angry.

[Pharlo]

30. Sure, you can compare the two....

If an Iraqi baby's death is collateral damage for war in Iraq, an abortion is collateral damage for an unplanned pregnancy. Then you point out the real difference. One abortion kills one, possibly two, zygotes. One bomb murders from one to 100 - or more - fully formed human babies, pregnant women, and young children, and leaves many more in a seriously injured and often times maimed state. (You can also have fun by accusing them of being racist. -Granted, while many privately may be, they don't want it to be publicly advertised: ruins their self-image of a 'Good God-fearin' Christian')

Then, add insult to injury - tell them you feel so sorry for someone so morally lacking they need to murder human beings in order to justify one man's lies (please mention Bush by name). Then tell them you'll be sure and pray for them and their ability to one day become a loving Christian.

(About this time they're usually hopping mad. Sort of fun to watch their face turn red.)

Use them for bait - Cheap entertainment.

As for the Catholic issue: I can seriously respect anyone, or institution, which states a principled opinion, adheres to it, and is willing to financially support that statement.

The Catholic pro-life view: anti-contraception, anti-abortion, anti-capital punishment, anti-war. There's a consistency. And, many times there will be religious relief agencies (not just Catholic) in areas where non-religious groups will not go.

I can respect a view like that - I may not agree with it, but I can respect it.

It's the hypocrites I have MAJOR problems with and go out of my way to annoy.

I suppose I should be ashamed of myself, but, with today's economy my entertainment budget is severely limited. So, I'm sure whichever deity I may ultimately wind up justifying myself to, it'll understand. Unless, of course, these 'morans' are right and GW IS THE deity....In which case, I'm screwed anyhow, so I may as well enjoy myself now....N'est pas?

[greekspeak]

32. Collateral Damage is any death involving a brownish person

And that is the way it is.

[genieroze]

38. Show them these WARNING not for the squeamish

http://www.einswine.com/atrocities/du/

[Tower]

31. There's no money in killing zygotes. 18 year olds- now there's the $$$.

[iconoclastic cat]

3. Why even bother with them? They're insane. Containment is the answer.

You won't "heal" them or cure this delusion. These people are addicts, and their addiction has lead to complete submission of the soul. They are pod people.

[CHestonsucks]

7. A zygote isn't a baby

any more than an acorn is an oak tree.

Reason and "belief" are not compatible.

[BlueEyedSon]

12. Welcome to DU, CHesty!

[madeline_con]

20. It has the "potential"....

so force the woman to have its "poitential", whether she wants to or not.

As for the oaks, you dare not let squirrels eat even one acorn, the little tree killers!!!

[greekspeak]

36. No...its ok for trees to die. They get in the way of roads, houses, cars

and, well STUFF. Thus, they must be eradicated. Zygotes, however, are God's gift to humans. Then the dreaded cycle wingnuts whine about incessantly begins. Even with the zygotes, precious zygotes, one day they are born and become babies, and the sinning begins. They become welfare babies, and crack babies, and they cry like little babies. Maligned Wingnuts are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes to buy formula/clothing/shelter for the welfare/crack babies whose mothers are out looking at new Caddilacs. The next thing you know, the maligned wingnuts at gunpoint have to shell out for free, librul indoctrination at the public schools for all the welfare/crack babies. And to boot, the wingnuts cannot even force the welfare/crack babies to pray to THEIR God. And it just keeps going down from there, until the welfare/ crack babies have welfare crack babies of their own at about age 13. But then, for a few precious months, there is a zygote to worship again. As long as it is white.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

37. A zygote is a symbiote. My reasoning:

if it can't live yet w/o the mother, abortion is no more murdering something than attacking a doll is.

[kool kitty streblin]

8. ...

THESE kind of thinkers make up the Republican base of today.

>>>> Yeah and there's no reasoning with them either.
>>>> they :freak: me out too...

[BlueEyedSon]

11. Condoms are murder. Oh, so is ABSTINENCE. If you feel horny, go

make a baby! What a tragic loss of every baby that might have been born when a couple choses NOT to have sex when they want to! Doesn't matter if you're 13 or dirt poor or have 7 kids already.... are physically infirm, psychotic, whatever! Go screw and have those kids, dammit!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

35. I know...

..and then you can't masturbate, either, 'cause that's just "unnatural." What the hell are you SUPPOSED to do?

:puke:

Go kiss my ass, Repug pro"life"ers.

[bobbieinok]

39. years ago my now ex had a 'conversation' with religious wrong

people in his college department

he was in shock that evening.....one of them had indeed stated that each sperm that did not join with an egg was a 'life lost'

[WritingIsMyReligion]

44. OMFG!

That is SO medieval thinking!

Henry VIII thought that...

"Sperm is the whole person, a seed...a woman is just the ground you plant the seed in..."

:puke::puke:

[bobbieinok]

46. a lot of people thot that.....think it wasn't until 1930s that science

was finally able to show that a child is 1/2 from father and 1/2 from mother

I used to wonder why many of the nobility etc in previous centuries did not think the children of their daughters were as much 'their' family as the children of their sons.......if the woman contributes nothing, then this makes sense

edited to add

it also explains in a weird way why women are not considered important......people only come from men; the women only incubate them

[WritingIsMyReligion]

47. Yes, exactly n/t

[Cha]

40. How many "babies" did bush

kill in Iraq? In New Orleans? And how many will he be killing when people don't have food when he bankrupts this country?

[WritingIsMyReligion]

45. What also pisses me off

is how MEN get so overworked about this... sorry, guys, but WHEN will any man be getting pregnant? How can these RW bastards--MALES, btw!--take away a woman's right to choose?

I generally like the male sex, but RW male misogynist fundies totally make me wanna :puke: and :banghead:.

[bvar22]

49. If you consider abortion to be murder,

would you demand the DEATH PENALITY for the criminal mothers, doctors, and co-conspiritorial family members and friends?

How do you want these people to pay for their crimes?

Please keep YOUR moral conumdrums and Religious beliefs
OUT OF THE US Judicial System
and IN your church where it belongs!!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

50. Very nice... :>)