Lynndie England: 'Poor, Mixed-Up Kid'

[SoDesuKa]

Lynndie's lawyer is portraying her as a poor, mixed-up kid. She was so eager to please her boyfriend that she joined in the humiliation of prisoners. I can't agree. She may have been mixed-up, but that only mitigates her guilt; it doesn't absolve her.


Lynndie England

Lynndie is 22 in this picture. She looks like she's close to 40.

[Blue-Jay]

1. Poor kid.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,376510,00.jpg



Go to hell, kid.

[Poll_Blind]

2. WELL said! n/t

PB

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Oh yes

The pictures show she really is a poor kid. :eyes: She knew what she was doing according to these photos and pictures don't lie.

[jody]

3. That's the excuse * will give at his trial. n/t

[nonconformist]

5. We should hold the commanders responsible for this

The people in charge that gave her the orders to torture and looked the other way while it was being done.

This doesn't absolve her of her actions, but I have no doubt that she was impressionable and troubled. She will pay the price for the calls of her superiors on this and it's just wrong.

[slay]

8. I agree

Far too often the regular soldier takes the hit for bad calls made by those in charge. This poor girl has been royally screwed up and set up as a sacrificial lamb by men smarter, meaner, and more devious than her. I'm not saying she doesn't merit some blame, but lets put the real blame on those in charge who approved the torture. :(

[Garbo 2004]

9. My recollection from info long ago was that she was in administration and

her job was not guarding prisoners. She was hanging out, visiting in the cellblock with her boyfriend and joined in the "fun."

Ah, found some info on that:

In off-camera conversation, she did say she felt like she had been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Technically, she did not work full time in those cell blocks at Abu Ghraib. She was in prisoner processing. But at the end of her shifts, at 10 at night, she would go over to those cell blocks to hang out with her pals, watching movies, shooting the breeze. So technically, she was not a full time prison guard. She would kind of pitch in sometimes when they were shorthanded and was just hanging around a lot, jumping into the fray when needed.
http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=65771

[saltpoint]

6. I would like to see Ms. England's jury chosen to comprise --

-- all Iraqi citizens, several of whom had kin or companions or neighbors or friends etc. of the men which our government pointlessly detained and mercilessly taunted and tortured.

If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, he would barge into the White House and punch Dubya in the goddam nose. Whether Bush or Rumsfeld or some sick general along the chain of command put England in this position is not the point -- ONE of them did -- and justice ought to reach to the source of the order.

[billbuckhead]

7. It speaks volumes that this young woman has become a scapegoat

But it's left me speechless.