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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:27 PM
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"Republican and Ashamed" photo


Jeb Eddy joins thousands of demonstrators to protest the war in Iraq on Saturday. Associated Press photo by Noah Berger

more photos at...

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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:29 PM
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1. If I was him, I'd consider...
CHANING MY PARTY AFFILIATION THEN!!!!!! HELLO!!!!!

Lu
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:31 PM
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2. Maybe he's not ALL the way to the left.
:shrug:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:29 PM
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82. The next Dem candidate needs to redefine our welfare program.
That is what moderates and some conservative Dems are skeptical about concerning Democratic policies. So the next Dem candidate needs to acknowledge that there were problems in the past with abuses to the welfare program and those problems will be addressed, but that we also must acknowledge that racism is a real problem in this country and that it is part of the reason why people just stop trying, and finally resort to living off handouts. There will always be people who are exceptions, but most people want to grow and succeed, and for those people, it's an investment in the future of this country to make them participants, rather than spectators.

This is a rare opportunity for Dems. Racism and Regulation are two issues which we had to hit rock bottom before we could get everyone's attention and get most Americans on the same page.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:52 PM
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16. Dunno
At least be an indie? :shrug:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:42 PM
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28. I disagree. REAL Republicans need to take back their party. I'm betting
he stands for the traditional Republican positions, which bear almost no resemblance to the insane, murderous greed of the neocon freaks. If he wants to work from within that party, then more power to him because it will not be easy. He will be talking to people whose minds need to be changed. Just because he remains a registered Repub doesn't mean he votes for neocons. Clearly, he has integrity and makes up his own mind about what to support. He may well be able to accomplish more within that party than he would if he switched to the Dems.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:49 AM
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34. Yep. I agree.
Good for him.

Peace.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:31 AM
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53. Many times i think REAL Democrats nee to take back their party.
We need to take it away from the wishy-washy, cowardly democrats that seem to be running too many things lately.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:48 AM
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55. Yes indeed. Let the REAL Democrats, the true leaders of integrity, heart,
wisdom and courage, step forward and the others will be left behind in the dust. Who needs them? What good are they?
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:00 AM
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61. The party of Eisenhower and Gerald Ford
is not the same as the party of Grover Norquist, Pat Robertson and Paul Wolfowitz. More and more Republicans are realizing that, I think.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:03 PM
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79. Rumsfeld would look dashing in a nazi uniform
He probably has one at home, complete with monocle, jackboots, riding pants and riding crop at home and goosesteps in front of the mirror when he feels especially content with life.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:13 PM
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76. Not only has the integrity to make up his own mind about what to...
support but also has the courage to go out and hold up the sign that he's holding up. Kudos to him!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:06 PM
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75. Or not vote. Or vote for the next repube that comes along.
He can be ashamed all he wants. It's not going to change a thing.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:31 PM
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3. Yay!
I've never agreed with Republican policies as a whole, but their party has been hijacked and is merely a shadow of what it was. Everything they do practically goes directly against their platform. Good to see those Republicans who have had enough and are fighting to take their party back from this regime.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:32 PM
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4. Well, at least he represented with a nice
expensive store bought sign. You know he must be pissed to spend money on that message. Good for him and even better for us.
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:34 PM
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8. That was me, prior to 2000, when I officially changed my party
affiliation! There is hope and it keeps coming, don't believe the MS shills. They know it, and are hoping to change the SC so when the crap hits the fan, they still have an in.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:16 PM
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21. Ah, your username takes on a new poignancy, hearing this story. I'm
very glad you're joining with us and everyone else who wants to take this country back to the rule of law. REAL Republicans and Dems (I prefer "Progressives") can resume their traditional arguments AFTER this crisis in the American Republic has passed. Indeed, I believe that the country is better for those traditional arguments--either party unopposed tends to drift toward complacency, corruption and mistakes.

I really feel sorry for the people who only recently have come to realize how their loyalty to the GOP has been betrayed. They have been lied to and duped in the worst possible way, their patriotism and love of their country misused by the neocon leadership, and the whole country is in a crisis because of it. I hope they can find a way to hold off bitterness and cynicism enough to turn to a positive road to build a coalition to take this country back.

Seeing this sad but upstanding gentleman with his sign gives me more hope. He's a REAL Republican, and that means he loves his country, not the insane and corrupt agenda of the neocon cabal. All caring Americans must work together to take this country back. Dems and Repubs can get back to their traditional arguments and compromises AFTER the country has been saved.

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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:32 PM
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5. WOW powerful photo...what really gets me is that this is not a plant
by the dnc...if he was a dem with the same kind of message nobody would believe it because of all the dirty tricks by the rnc and co..
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:48 PM
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11. His eyes show a shell-shocked core
I'd bet he's for real.... he's one of the millions of REP's that are smart enough to see what is happening to their party. I'll bet he sometimes has trouble sleeping at night. He looks scared of the direction his country is heading in.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:55 PM
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17. Definitley
It's all in the eyes.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:57 AM
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66. Yes, his eyes are haunting, what are they saying??
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 09:58 AM by cassiepriam
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wrathofkahn Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:08 AM
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90. He may as well be
Unfortunately, he's a Democrat. Enter last name Eddy, first name Jeb. He's been donating to the Democratic Party since at least 1998.





Presented by the Federal Election Commission


Individual Contributions Arranged By Type, Giver, Then Recipient

Contributions to Political Committees

EDDY, JEB
PALO ALTO, CA 94301

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
09/25/1998 250.00 98033640606
03/17/1999 500.00 99034663104

EDDY, JEB
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
SELF/SOFTWARE AUTHOR

KERRY, JOHN F
VIA JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC
05/23/2004 250.00 24981229281

EDDY, JEB MRS.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FDN/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
02/25/2004 250.00 24961664882

EDDY, JEB MRS.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FOUNDATION/EXEC DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
11/15/2004 500.00 24981631280
05/25/2005 500.00 25970413096

EDDY, JEB MR.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
08/11/2003 500.00 24990777720

EDDY, JEB MR.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FDN/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
02/25/2004 250.00 24961664882

EDDY, JEB MR.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FOUNDATION/EXEC DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
11/15/2004 500.00 24981631280
05/25/2005 500.00 25970413096

EDDY, JEB MRS.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
08/11/2003 500.00 24990777720

Total Contributions: 4500.00
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:13 AM
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92. See post #91, oh repetitive one.
:popcorn:
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wrathofkahn Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:19 AM
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94. So, you're denying the evidence that he's a Democrat?
Are you also denying that Mrs. Jeb Eddy is the executive director of the Compton Foundation?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:24 AM
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96. I'm denying you're any part of "we."
I'm also denying that one has to be a Democrat to vote for or support a Democrat. There are intelligent repubs. I doubt you know any, though.
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wrathofkahn Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:26 AM
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97. Lemme get this straight...
He's given $4500 to Democrats over the last 7 years, and he and his wife work for a very, very progressive foundation that provides lots of grant money to progressive causes.

Because of that, he's a Republican?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:31 AM
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98. Why don't you check out post #56 as an example?
There are many ways of being a repub, yet voting Democrat. Not every repub is a brain-dead, morally bankrupt wingnut. Expand your world.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:33 PM
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6. Wow! Good!
:applause:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:34 PM
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7. Kudos to this guy...
Hell, as much as I'd like everyone to be a dem, the real republicans (fiscal and social conservatives) are nothing like this breed of fundie lovin, spendin like drunken sailors, corrupt as hell dickheads we have in DC nowadays.
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darkenedhalo Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:35 PM
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9. I love it!
I think their house of cards is tumbling.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:49 PM
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13. Welcome to DU darkenedhalo!
:hi:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:36 PM
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10. It will take Republicans to bring down the Neocons
Thay guy is on OUR side, at least for now.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:23 AM
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30. Exactly. He and people like him have a vitally important job to do in
showing the way forward to the other Repubs who either have not yet realized how they have been betrayed or who have realized it but do not know what to do next to make things better.

Look at the sadness, determination, fury and strength in his face and body language. He's a fighter for integrity and for all of us Americans. I hope he got some comfort from the support he must have received from other demonstrators today. I'm betting he's had a lonely road and I admire him for taking his courageous stand.

Note that he gave his name and allowed it to be printed. He knows he will be attacked by GOP "loyalists," but he intends to weather that storm and keep fighting.

I wish we could send him a letter of support, appreciation, and encouragement.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:38 AM
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59. Enemy of my enemy?
Or simply a good person who happens to disagree with the rest of us on governmental policy.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:10 AM
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65. The latter, I believe.
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:33 AM
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68. He is on OUR side
I can even remember a time when, at the core of politics, ALL Repubs and Dems were on the same side... the side that had the best interests of the Nation at heart. They simply had differences of opinion as to how to best achieve the same goal.

I'm afraid, under the iron fisted, corrupted rule of the current GOP, that time has long since passed, and so have many of the politicians who truly understood the value of compromise in good governance.

They have managed to make it acceptable for their voting base to tap into the lowest common denominator of their human nature, and demonize their fellow Americans, simply because they may hold a different view. For more than 200 years this government survived, and the nation flourished, absent that kind of divisiveness.

It's extremely encouraging, to me, to see people, like the man in the photo, who are still willing to hold onto the best of themselves, and continue to rise above simple political differences for the good of the country.

I would rather see one photo like that, than ten photos of Democrats holding up protest signs.

A photo like that tells me there is still hope for a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

-chef-
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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:49 PM
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12. great pic
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:50 PM
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14. Thank you, sir, thank you
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:52 PM
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15. Oh wow
There was another picture too that had a lady had a sign that said "republicans for impeachment". That one surprised me too.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:57 PM
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18. I am sending that pic to my Republican friend.
She is Republican to the marrow of her bones, but she looked me straight in the eye a few months ago and said, "I never thought I'd ever see the day when I would say this, but I'm ashamed to be a Republican."

She supported Dean, voted for Kerry, and wishes like hell that the GOP would find a way to regain some of its honor. But, she'll never change parties. She wants to stay in the GOP and change it from within.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:40 PM
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27. "She wants to stay GOP and change it from within."
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 11:41 PM by susanna
Yeah. That is about what I thought back in 1985. Then I wised up and moved on (Dem since).

Good grief, your friend is WAY late to understanding the scope of things. Hopefully she is quite young and does not yet understand how long her GOP has been infected by some profoundly terrible and self-serving elements.

on edit: clarity
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:34 AM
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31. She isn't young, except relatively speaking.
She comes from a long line of politicians, she's also held a respectable political office, and there's no way she's going to change parties.

She's a very strong environmentalist, too. Very savvy. She knows what's happening, we've had lots of long talks. With my friends, I usually come down to the position that it isn't the party they register with, it's who they vote for that matters. And all my friends, Dems, Indies and Repubs, voted for Kerry. So, I can't hold her party affiliation against her.

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:58 PM
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19. This is WONDERFUL!!! Bless his heart, you can see how deeply he feels
this. What it must have cost him to come out publicly like this! I can only admire his honesty and commitment and be glad he is joining us in this struggle. I hope he found some comfort from the support he received from other people at the protest today. We are all AMERICANS. He is one of us, not the neocon monster brigade.

The insane radicals in power are NOT true Republicans - a political movement with long-established traditions and stands - but a fringe extremist group who have seized power and hijacked the GOP leadership. When I see the traditional Republicans called "paleo-Republicans" here at DU or elsewhere, I don't like it. I think they should be referred to as the REAL Republicans. People who have always stood for fiscal responsibility and the right to privacy and are wary of international entanglements like the "nation-building" in Iraq, for example. There are many issues where Democrats and REAL Republicans have differing views, but compared with the insane freak ultra-hawk cabal that stole our country, the REAL Republicans and we Dems and Independents (I prefer "Progressives") have FAR more in common. We believe in the importance of the rule of law and we uphold the Constitution and basic integrity.

Let's be very open and welcoming to the REAL Republicans like this courageous and caring man, including those who are only lately coming to realize how they have been lied to and duped by the leadership of their party. We need to stand together to take this country back. When the US democracy is safe again, then we can get back to our traditional arguments. That ongoing discourse is healthy and produces the best result; when either party is in power unopposed, corruption, lassitude, and mistakes fester. Right now, our shared priority has to be to save this country from the destruction engineered by the neocon cabal.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:09 AM
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35. Bless YOUR heart!
You are obviously very thoughtful, and your words are oh so true!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:51 AM
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43. Thank you, Syrinx.
Though I live in New England, I'm a native Texan, and "Bless your heart" is a very natural expression when Texans are feeling empathy. May sound a bit funny in some other parts of the country, but you clearly saw what I was trying to say.

It's very, very important that Dems and Independents are very open to REAL Republicans who are trying to take back their party. Insisting that they "convert" is counterproductive. On the other hand, openness to shared goals can make the difference. They have their own goal of taking back their party, and the proposed social programs will differ from ours, but right now in this time of crisis we need to gather the strength of ALL Americans of good heart and strong will to take back our country.

Now I'll step off my rant box :rant: and make my departure. :hi:
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:19 AM
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48. and some say Texas isn't the South :)
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 03:27 AM by Syrinx
But I saw the tableau you were painting of the REAL Republicans (the percieved "Christian" party) contrasted against the neocons who are, quite frankly, evil personified.

We need to join with people like the gentleman in the photo. Those people are not the enemy. And even the large majority of right-wingers who first criticize that photo are not the enemy. (And they are catching on.)

The REAL Republicans and the REAL Democrats and the REAL Independants are what are going to save our country and the world. The Neocons (also called fascists) are what is going to doom the world, and kill us all.

There is a band of evil people (the Bushes, Cheneys, etc.) that want to rule the world, and they don't care one whit for us.

This is the theme we need to stress. (I say "theme," because it means pretty much what "meme" does, and people understand it. ;) )

I'll try to get out before you step on that dynamite. :hi:

EDIT: Just to be clear. I've never been a Republican. I've never voted for a Republican for national or statewide office. But I realize there is a HUGE difference between the GOP of the past and of today.

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:37 AM
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54. I also question the identification of the REAL Republicans with Christians
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 04:44 AM by Nothing Without Hope
It was a political affiliation based primarily on social class and family traditions, NOT religion. Many of the lower and middle class were Christian and voted Democrat. Indeed, the country founders made it very, very clear that religion was NOT to intrude into governance, a point we should ALSO be making very, very clear:



No dynamite yet - I'm going to bed so maybe I'll avoid it. :hi:

Edited to add: I never voted Republican or registered Republican either, but that doesn't mean I automatically dismiss all Republicans as automatically being "eeeeevilllll."

And doesn't Jerry Falwell look like a puffed-up pink toad getting ready to croak? Except that real toads have the most remarkably beautiful eyes. His eyes are full of hate, greed and low cunning.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:11 AM
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87. I like the way you think
The far-right has corrupted and bastardized everything about this country, and successfully brainwashed so many Americans that I'm sometimes surprised to come across a reasonable voice. (But of course there are quite a few on this website.)

For the record, I think I've voted for a Republican exactly once. It was for a lower-than-statewide office, and it was for a relative. I soon realized that he was a nutcase, and have corrected that error in subsequent elections.

And yes, Falwell does bear a certain resemblance to a toad with less than appealing eyes. :)

By the way, I see your Atwood quote. That reminded me of my very first college essay. It was about her short story "Rape Fantasies." I got rave marks on it. Apropos of little. :hi:
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:13 PM
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20. this man has my respect
It's not easy to come out publically like this.




Cher
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:48 AM
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33. Yes. He's got guts and I am all for him and republicans like him taking
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 12:51 AM by glitch
their party back.
Nobody likes fascists but fascists.

edit: actually, fascists probably don't like fascists either. They seem to hate everybody, even themselves.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:20 AM
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51. me too!
Hey NJCher! Haven't come across you lately. :hi:

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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:49 AM
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64. Hi, Syrinx
:hi:

Been busy--first of the school year.




Cher
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:24 PM
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22. my immediate family are/were mostly republicans
they're decent people, NOT right-wing nut jobs. they're just into self reliance, small government and fiscal conservatism that *used* to represent the GOP. they're not too happy right now either.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:24 PM
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23. Woo hoo, good on him!
:woohoo: :applause:
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:28 PM
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24. Great pic.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:30 PM
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25. Woohoo!
:)
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:39 PM
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26. If we can get all the real Republicans...
...to realize that their GOP has hi-jacked by the criminal fundie right, we might be able to impeach shrub.

Pray that this feeling catches on !!!
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:57 PM
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29. That's a great picture
He looks sad, and he must really be angry at what happened to his party to come out and do this. I think there's another Republican sign to the right of him.

I love this from the article:

Jim Haber, 43, said the posters were designed to “show the human cost of the war.” At least a half dozen counter-protesters, including a group of college Republicans from San Francisco State University, turned out to the military effort in Iraq.

Just six of them? There must not have been any recruiters around!! I do hope there will be lots of recruiters at tomorrow's 'Support All War All The Time' rally ~
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:46 AM
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32. That is what we need.
Republicans will not listen to progressives, we are all a bunch of commie, America hating, pink-o, homosexuals. However, they will listen to other republicans. Vietnam was a farce that killed 52,000 Americans, we finally got out, in part, due to pressure at home. What we need is more marches, demonstrations, get the message out. Rove says the anti-war effort is non-existent. We need to drive the message home that it is alive and well and will continue until this unholy crusade is over. Faced with unyielding truth, GOPers will defect. :patriot:
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:21 AM
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39. Sir, unlike many party members, he puts his COUNTRY before his PARTY. He's
no pussy. He has my respect in a way, judging by your post, that you will never have.
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Micky Ficky Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:29 AM
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40. I knew it would be worthless...
..so I say g'night, and a better tomorrow to y'all :)

Sweet dreams.
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:31 AM
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42. Don't let the door hit you on the behind on your way out... nt
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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:17 AM
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37. I'm with him. While I left the Republican Party, I still have many
conservative views (something the Republican party currently does not have). However, like this man here, I am making common cause with the Left as I have found over the course of the past four years that I have more in common with, and MORE respect for, progressives than the current crop of Republican koolaid drinkers.

BTW, my conservative values do NOT EXTEND to the FUNDIE RW agenda. Never have, never will. I was raised in an abusive Fundamentalist home and I, more than many here, understand the fundie mentality and recognize the great danger they pose for our republic.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:19 AM
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38. Remember the days of "Liberal Guilt"?
Well, say hello to "Conservative Guilt".

Bless this man's heart and conscience. There are all kinds of strength in the world, and not all of them involve weapons and push-ups.

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artemisia1 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:30 AM
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41. Great post, Kurovski. Real Democrats and Real Republicans - not the
current crop of Koolaid drinking, Fundie nutjobs - have much in common. Both parties can and have bred party-line fanatics who put the party before their country, so it's nice to see a man who doesn't.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:53 AM
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44. he should be ashamed to be republican
republicans sucked long before GWB
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:57 AM
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46. As much as I hate to give Repubs a break....
... I don't think the whole of them are neocon.

And that is a different animal, entirely.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:21 AM
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63. HOW MANY of these 'Republicans with a conscience'...
were HAPPY to go along with the neo-cons until Iraq started looking more like Vietnam?

I hope these Repubs with buyers' remorse are looking at exactly HOW they were hoodwinked into supporting a band of criminals at top levels of the US government.

I hope these Repubs also realize how neo-con policies have led to the growth of Islamic terrorism, making us far LESS safer than ever.

Do they finally GET IT that neo-con policies are all about repressing democratic principles, not 'spreading Democracy?'

How much did these so-called 'moderate Republicans' support Neo-con imperialism out of sheer economic opportunism? Can they ACTUALLY look at that?

--------------
OK--I'm glad some former Repubs have become enlightened and I realize that some of them did not vote for GW, but obviously they were in the minority. I hope that these anti-Bush Repubs can now help influence others of their political persuasion to see the light.

This would be a good way to repent for giving us the most diabolical, corrupt, traitorous regime in American history.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:56 PM
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69. JUST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T NEOCON
DOESN'T MEAN THEY DIDN'T SUCK - the GOP has long pandered to the greedy, the racist, the misogynistic, the homophobic - you name it. THEY SUCK.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:01 PM
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74. I'm with you!
Experiencing the rabid and warped GOP of today tends to make one almost forget that they were still greedy, racists before. No offense, but that was my observation way before the nightmarish neocons came along to raise them to their crescendo.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:53 PM
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77. THANK YOU
OMG I am SICK of this notion that somehow the GOP was some kind of NOBLE PARTY before they installed GWB - for God's sake doesn't anyone remember that feeble, incomptent piece of shit REAGAN? The Decade of GREED? The CONTRACT ON AMERICA ? It's been coming for a looooong, looooooong time.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:56 AM
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45. Woot!! Now, that is a beautiful thing.
:thumbsup:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:57 AM
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47. Good for him! Poor guy, you can see the pain in his eyes.
His party has been taken over by neo-con wackos.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:23 AM
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49. I am glad to see this Republican I don't think he's alone. n/t
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:03 AM
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50. Great sign and picture! Poor guy--
I feel for him--he looks so sad.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:23 AM
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52. now that's brave.
thank you sir.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:07 AM
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56. I'm a Republican in Texas, but vote & support Democrat.......
You have a lot more rights in Texas as a Republican than a Democrat is the reason I don't switch parties. A lot easier to raise money as a Texas Republican than a Democrat also.

I live 3 block's from Papa Bush's home in Houston. A huge number of Reps in Texas now hate Bush. I've always hated the SOB's, both Papa and the boys.

I'm with a large "money group" that has been trying to drag down Tom DeLay for 3 years now. I ran the group last year trying to help John Kerry/John Edwards, and supply intel on the Swift Boat operations, which we had insiders in the organization. Unfortunately, Kerry beat himself in the election over not having a solid operating position on the Iraq/Middle East crisis. One of our members personally told John Edwards (face-to-face in a meeting with him) they would lose the Presidential Election if Kerry (and Senator Joe Biden) didn't come up with a better position on managing that disaster Iraq Holy War that BushCo started.

Anyway, The Grand Jury investigation in Austin finally indicted some of DeLays closest colleagues, and one of his PAC's, this month on corruption charges so we are getting closer. DeLay's "little buddies" could get up to 99 years in prison. Obviously the idea is to get these two guys to "rollover" to finally nail DeLay and other members of the Bush Texas Family Mafia. Unfortunately the Reps and the Bush Family Texas Mafia are EXTREMELY powerful AND very dangerous.

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:21 AM
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57. Interesting post, except for one factual error
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 05:23 AM by buddyhollysghost
Kerry didn't lose the election. Not on his Middle East policy, anyway.

He lost it due to fraud and Diebold and a great big voting conspiracy that will be revealed in its entirety many years from now when those involved want to come clean or no longer fear retaliation. And Gore won as well.

Let's face it. Most Americans know that Neo-Con policies are dead-end roads; most know that the church needs to stay out of the state and the state needs to stay out of the church. A handful of deluded wacko Fascists did not win. They lied, cheated and stole to appear to win.

They all call themselves Republicans.


Edit to add: Except ZigZag Zell Miller.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:33 AM
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58. That's BS. The Dems are Just as Dirty-Tricks As The Repubs - eom
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:57 AM
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60. Sorry, no they're not
Newt Gingrich got a lot of blowjobs that we Dems didn't give a damn about.

The death and murder and lies and coverup in this administration have NEVER been a facet of the Democratic party, even if we like sex more than Republicans do.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:14 AM
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62. Agree, BushCo as out of control now as the Nixon-Agnew Administration! eom
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:02 PM
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70. I am horrified at what we have lost under **
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 01:03 PM by buddyhollysghost
Thousands of soldiers and innocent Iraqis, the trust of the world, the WTC, New Orleans, our Constitution, personal liberty, right of free press, free speech, right to assemble.

This is the America that stern, sadistic Repukes envisioned. Lean and mean. They murder, cheat, lie and steal, they killed Jesus.

Nixon's cabal was nothing compared to this diabolical crew. I am ashamed that more Republicans aren't leaving such an evil party. But it just goes to show that all that Right Wing, Falwell-style posturing about "morality" was a bunch of hoohaw that didn't mean jack shit, it just sounded good at the time.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:12 PM
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81. I'm very interested
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 06:12 PM by blogslut
In what you might know about T. Boone Pickens. Aside from the fact that he's an opportunist scumbag. :)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:49 PM
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86. You're doing good work, then, and if nobody else
appreciates it, be advised that I do. Making change from within is damned difficult, and I salute you.

Redstone
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:47 AM
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67. Surely a rare emotion still. Did he lose his meds?
Clip some coupons and look through your tax returns Mr. Eddy. You'll see what you bought.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:32 PM
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71. good on him!
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Toasted_Halo Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:51 PM
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72. If they were honest...
there would be a lot more people walking around with those signs.
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MissAmber Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:48 PM
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73. Amen!
Maybe this means there is a chance that some of them will wake up and realize what this moran is doing to our country! :toast: :woohoo:
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:53 PM
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78. I'm not a fan of Republicans....but
this man gets my respect, because I would rather have somebody like him as my foe, than those who currently are in control of the GOP, like the Neo-cons and Fundies. Plus also it takes alot of guts to come out aganist one's own party.:applause:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:08 PM
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80. Anybody who votes for war mongering cheap labor cons, should
be ashamed!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:53 PM
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83. Off topic
but doesn't that guy look like James Garner?
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:57 PM
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84. He is Why We Can't Let ANSWER Speak For Us
Republicans are starting to wake up. Groups like ANSWER are too radical & turn them off. We need more Republicans to come to our side, or the war will just go on & on. The Vietnam War ended because even Republicans were disgusted by it.

Tammy
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:38 PM
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85. Saving that one for my Mother-In-Law!!!!
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:12 AM
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88. LOL Can we forward that to the White House?
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wrathofkahn Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:08 AM
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89. We don't really need to resort to these tactics
Unfortunately, he's a Democrat. Enter last name Eddy, first name Jeb. He's been donating to the Democratic Party since at least 1998.





Presented by the Federal Election Commission


Individual Contributions Arranged By Type, Giver, Then Recipient

Contributions to Political Committees

EDDY, JEB
PALO ALTO, CA 94301

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
09/25/1998 250.00 98033640606
03/17/1999 500.00 99034663104

EDDY, JEB
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
SELF/SOFTWARE AUTHOR

KERRY, JOHN F
VIA JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC
05/23/2004 250.00 24981229281

EDDY, JEB MRS.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FDN/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
02/25/2004 250.00 24961664882

EDDY, JEB MRS.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FOUNDATION/EXEC DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
11/15/2004 500.00 24981631280
05/25/2005 500.00 25970413096

EDDY, JEB MR.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
08/11/2003 500.00 24990777720

EDDY, JEB MR.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FDN/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
02/25/2004 250.00 24961664882

EDDY, JEB MR.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
COMPTON FOUNDATION/EXEC DIRECTOR

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
11/15/2004 500.00 24981631280
05/25/2005 500.00 25970413096

EDDY, JEB MRS.
PALO ALTO, CA 94301

DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
08/11/2003 500.00 24990777720

Total Contributions: 4500.00
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:12 AM
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91. "We," huh?
So,... He had the sense to see the looming threat in 1998 and donated to the DNC to try and stop it. Does that mean he's not a repub or that he doesn't vote repub on issues or in local elections? He's already said he's ashamed of this GOP. Obviously, he put his money where his mouth is, which is a lot more than can be said about any other repub.

:popcorn:
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:04 PM
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101. Next up, repuke circle firing squad
This picture is causing a flame war on the internet. Don't ya just love the dwindling slime pool of Kool-aid drinkers and their sock puppets desperately posting over and over again in a panic to stop the freefall of the neo-con agenda. Pass the popcorn.

:popcorn:

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:14 AM
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93. Is it just me or does this guy bear a little resemblance to GW Bush?


Hmmm, I wonder where the Shrub was this weekend?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:22 AM
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95. Not just you!
The same thing occured to me. This guy seems to display genuine sadness, though.
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:33 AM
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99. he looks like the love-child of James Garner & G.H.W. "poppy" Bush.
nt
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:26 PM
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100. He's a conservative with a conscience
I saw him at the march I said, "Yey Republicans against the war!"
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