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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:03 AM
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Rev. Moon--We know that he is allied with the * family, but how is he tied
to the Korean government, if he is. And if he is, which Korea? Does he have a large base in Korea, or is it just stupid Americans he pulls to his craziness?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:12 AM
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1. I don't have a link, but
Was he not involved in North Korea getting nuclear subs?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:39 AM
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4. The North Koreans do not have any Nuclear Submarines
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:19 AM
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6. Here is some info on ties to North Korea
Rev. Moon, North Korea & the Bushes
By Robert Parry

The Rev. Sun Myung Moon's business empire, which includes the conservative Washington Times, paid millions of dollars to North Korea's communist leaders in the early 1990s when the hard-line government needed foreign currency to finance its weapons programs, according to U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency documents.

The payments included a $3 million “birthday present” to current communist leader Kim Jong Il and offshore payments amounting to “several tens of million dollars” to the previous communist dictator, Kim Il Sung, the partially declassified documents said.

Moon apparently was seeking a business foothold in North Korea. But the transactions also raise legal questions for Moon and could cast a shadow on George W. Bush’s presidential campaign, given the Bush family’s longstanding financial and political ties to Moon and his organization.

Besides making alleged payments to North Korea’s communist leaders, the 80-year-old founder of the South Korean-based Unification Church has funneled large sums of money, possibly millions of dollars as well, to former President George H.W. Bush.

... more at
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101100a.html
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:17 AM
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2. The (South) Korean CIA was tied early to the Moonies
some history here: http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/m/moonies/moonhistory.htm (for example, others may be found with a google search on |sun-myung kcia|

It was only after the 1961 coup of Park Chung Hee, that the CIA helped to set up the KCIA. Colonel Bo Hi Pak was the CIA-KCIA liason man in the Washington embassy of the South Korean government and is Moon's chief translator and right hand man- on the board of many of the multi-million dollar operations. Reportedly, Moon's organization Victory Over Communism (VOC) was a primary tool of several South Korean dictators to politically "reeducate" South Korean dissidents who "foolishly" believed in democracy. Perhaps, Moon was just a way to try to counter North Korean brainwashing tactics during the cold war. It was proven that Moon owned a factory which manufactured M-16s, and other weapons of war which only the South Korean Ministry of Defense was licensed to make.

When the anti-Vietnam protest movement grew in the United States, the Moonies, under the front group "American Youth for a Just Peace" was set up with some additional money coming from Nixon's Committee to Re-Elect the President organization. Convicted Watergate conspirator Charles Colson gave some three thousand dollars to Allen Tate Wood, who was a Moonie leader at the time. Later, hundreds of Moonies were used in a three day fast for Nixon on the Capitol steps in an attempt to influence public opinion during the exposure of Watergate misdeeds.

Since that time, the Moon organization has continually tried to court and influence the conservative right. An August 1997 article in the Consortium reveals the involvement with Oliver North as well as Jerry Falwell.

It is interesting to note that with the fall of Russian communism, the Moonies have been actively recruiting there as well as throughout South America.


The Moonies were also involved with the APACL (Asian People's Anti-Communist League) - a right fringe organisation with heavy ties to the (US) CIA and the Kuo Min Tang opium running exiled Chinese nationalists among others, and then to the WACL (World Anti Communist League) a largely south American umbrella group for world-wide fascists with links to Nazi exiles in South America, El Salvadorean death squads, UK Conservative party fringe groups, etc., etc....

I think links to the BFEE are just a coninuation of this policy of Moonie support for neo-fascists - they can provide willing bodies for staged events (a bit like the freepers) as well as financial and probably intelligence support of a kind.

Their strategy is to make themselves valuable to neo-fascist governments and organisations in order to gain influence.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:27 AM
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3. The guy who seems to have kept closest tabs on Moon is...
... John Gorenfeld:

http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/

especially with regard to Moon's operations in this country.

Cheers.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:07 AM
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5. Moon has investments in North Korea including Pyonghwa Motors
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 08:11 AM by jody
$55-million auto assembly plant in Nampo.

That was done on * watch even though it probably violated executive orders barring trading with North Korea.

See: "Against all odds, auto factory to open in North Korea"
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