McCain just said polls he's seen, Americans support war

[spanone]

This was on the Stephanopolous show....What the fuck planet does this asshole live on?????? NO POLL has shown that Americans support this war. NONE. By the way, this remark went totally unchallenged.

[dorktv]

1. McCain is old and on his way out. Honestly.

[pinkpops]

kissin up as usual

[WritingIsMyReligion]

2. He lives in

Na-NA land, where all the delusional neocons go on "vacation" and end up staying for the rest of their lives... they live in a dream form of reality, like 1984--"War is Peace," etc...

God, Orwell was a flucking genius... bless him...

[applegrove]

3. Perhaps he is talking about polls of elected members. Many did

not support the war Bush chose. And they certainly didn't support being lied into it. They support it now - only because if they cannot get some semblance of stability - we will all be back there fighting a World War in 2 years.

[valerief]

4. Methinks he lies.

[spanone]

7. Ding, Ding, Ding!!!! We Have A Winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[valerief]

27. Whoopee! I win oppression in a fascist state!!!!!!

[spanone]

32. LOL

:toast:

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. Every chance he gets. nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. He is almost 70 years old

Maybe he is senile.

[madeline_con]

6. Maybe he saw a FREEKER poll...

and got confused.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

Maybe two bit deep red state newspaper polls?nt

[GoddessOfGuinness]

8. Just another out-of-touch rethug.

Nothing new about that.

[Greeby]

9. Maybe Bushco was right

Maybe he HAS gone insane? :crazy:

[Mr_Spock]

10. He must've seen that Freeped poll yesterday

The one here that we were unalble to de-Freep. I can't think of any other poll ever that showed support for the poll - at least within the past 9 months.

[BiggJawn]

11. A poll of members of PNAC?

Or the Hudson Institute? Or M-D or Raytheon employees?

Remember this, people, when you start hearing that bullshit about how far to the left McCain is in the next coupla years....

[Cocoa]

12. Mr. Straight Talk Express

cooking the poll numbers.

[Solly Mack]

13. It's McCain - of course he would say that

in between hugging Shrub - McCain carries the water.

[spanone]

Call me old fashioned, I expect the truth from elected assholes.

If they lie, I expect them to be challenged. McCain just smiled and Stephenopoulis let it slide. He could have named poll after poll that proved him wrong. But no.......

[Solly Mack]

23. I want truth - I'm just not going to get it from certain people

McCain is a liar was my point.I'd like to see him jailed for his lies ....and not just him.

Now, my ideal government would jail elected officials for lying...and throw them out of office. Bar them from ever holding office again and a hefty fine to top it off.


My ideal media would be to fire those "journalists" who don't challenge the lies or who spread lies themselves...and fine them as well.


I'm not one of those people who think lying is "politics as usual" - the only reason it is "usual" is because the people have tolerated it and they feel helpless ot change it.

[La Coliniere]

14. He'll never admit the truth.

Hawk that he is, and those like him, will NEVER admit that they were WRONG. NEVER! Me thinks he lies and prefers to exist in a world of make believe.

[More Than A Feeling]

15. If by "war", he means "peace", then he's right!

Paging Mr. Orwell...your table is ready.

[catmandu57]

16. McCain has lost it

he's getting as crazy as a shithouse rat, his day has came and went.

[oneighty]

17. McCain had the misfortune

of being shot down while performing duty to God and Country. He showed courage in surviving the years as a POW. Certainly he is honorable in that respect.

OTOH it is the best thing that ever happened to him as it launched him into the national spotlight.

As a war veteran myself I would never have dreamed of saying this until I saw the way in which Kerry was trashed.

180

[WA98296]

18. That poll is still up

Do you agree with the war in Iraq? It's still up at:
http://www.nbc4.com/news/5016005/detail.html

Choice Votes

Yes 1961 56%
No 1559 44%
Not Sure 12 0%

Percentage of 3532 Votes

[NNN0LHI]

19. Look close. That is a survey. Not a poll. Welcome to DU n/t

[spanone]

21. That is NOT a true poll. That is a question on a website.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

Here are some REAL polls.

[WA98296]

28. Point Taken... BUT...

Live survey, quick vote, whatever....
How many here are contacted by "legitimate" polls?

I get tapped by Zogby...unless it is about the president's performance, then they don't show up in my email. Coincidence? I doubt it, likely they are not sending out THAT poll to proclaimed democrats. I did test my suspicion and started claiming to be Independent in the past couple polls I've done for them..guess what, now I'm getting the Zogby polls asking how the president is doing. I don't know how or why they chose to send polls out, I just know I don't get to take a good many and am curious why. Random, selected? Only they know for sure.

Are we to actually TRUST polls? Especially those done by "the Media"?
Who owns them, what is their agenda? Who paid for the poll? Who interpreted the data? Who did they select to poll and why? And on and on.

I don't think controllling the media is enough, the "Right" also likes to manipulate the polls so that they can TELL us what WE think. It's all part of the package.

[NNN0LHI]

29. Great but McCain is still a snake in the grass. No polls/surveys needed nt

[blogslut]

31. I tick the Democratic box

..on Zogby polls each time I take one. I've participated in so many Zogby presidential performance polls, I can't count them all.

[blogslut]

34. cheating a website poll is easy

I won't say exactly how because I don't want to encourage anyone but it can be done very easily.

Note the disclaimer on those website polls: THIS IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC SURVEY

edit: i just can't spell today

[Zynx]

26. I could also probably find web polls where 90% oppose the war.

Look at any scientific poll on pollingreport.com and you will see that the war is very unpopular.

[cassiepriam]

20. Oh hell he is probably right,

The sheeple love the war. Freedom isn't free and
they hate us for our freedoms. Blah Blah Blah.

[zbdent]

22. Did "Kiss the Repukes asses" Stephanopolous bother to ask

McCain WHAT FUCKING POLLS? EVIDENCE!!!

[spanone]

24. Of course not. Ol' George just let it slide.

He knows where his toast is buttered.

[ktowntennesseedem]

25. He's just as bad as the rest on polls and public opinion.

You could present poll data from 50 polls, and 49 of them could show bad news for the Repugs. But throw in one poll, asked only of RNC leadership, incoming freshmen at Liberty University, and folks just exiting one of Shrub's pep rallies, and McCain et al will hold up no. 50 and declare "everyone loves us!"

That's why we're in the mess we're in. Instead of looking at evidence and intelligence data and then form an opinion and plan of action, this bunch will make a decision based solely on pre-conceived notions, then go look for data and info that supports them. Trumpet what you want to hear, ignore everything else.

[leftofthedial]

30. McCain is every bit as big a liar as any repuke

in addition to the obvious mental illness

[tgnyc]

33. He'll be 72 in '08. Too old and senile to run?

[samplegirl]

35. What do you expect???

From a WARHAWK

[spanone]

37. This will really sound silly...I expect the TRUTH from elected officials.

You can imagine how often I'm disappointed.

[texpatriot2004]

38. McCain is a LIAR just like the evil bastard he sucks up to. n/t