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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:16 AM
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NRA has all of their members mobilized against mayor Nagin
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 10:19 AM by bushmeat
This is being used as "they want to take all our guns again" propaganda against the Democrats. This is a local decision and the police support it.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050922-111326-6278r.htm

Two national gun rights groups yesterday joined individual Louisiana gun owners in a federal lawsuit to stop authorities from confiscating firearms from private citizens in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
The National Rifle Association (NRA) and the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana, seeking a temporary restraining order to halt the seizures of guns from law-abiding citizens. They described the confiscations as "arbitrary," "without warrant or probable cause" and thus "illegal."
New Orleans Police Superintendent P. Edwin Compass III "completely overstepped his bounds ... when he announced two weeks ago in the New York Times that only law-enforcement personnel are allowed to have weapons," Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the 3-million member NRA said in an interview yesterday.
The police superintendent's comments were echoed by the city's Deputy Police Chief Warren Riley, who told ABC News: "No one will be able to be armed. We are going to take all the weapons."

~snip~
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:28 AM
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1. Are you sure it's Nagin who wants those guns confiscated?
Or is it homeland Security?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:33 AM
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2. How can I put this bluntly....FUCK THE NRA.
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yankeeinlouisiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:34 AM
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3. The City was under Marshall law
would the Second Amendment apply?
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:54 AM
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9. Two points:
1: Martial law was never declared.
2: Martial law would not supercede the constitution.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:36 AM
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4. Nagin said he did not order that guns be confiscated, see DU thread
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:45 AM
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5. When snipers are shooting at rescue operations and 'bad' anarchy.....
prevails throughout a major city, what the HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO?? Ask everyone who has a gun what their intentions are to determine who should and who should not retain their firearms??? Sometimes you have to get real!!!! I absolutely support the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment but if I am a cop trying to save and rescue peoples lives, I'll do whatever I have to do to NOT BE SHOT while I am doing IT.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:56 AM
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10. Thus spoke the tyrants...
I'll do whatever I have to do to NOT BE SHOT while I am doing IT.

That quote could come in handy in a lot of places...

While commiting holocaust against jews.
While bulldozing houses in palestine.

The police do not have the authority, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, to disarm the population.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:02 AM
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11. If you have got to be with your guns during a crises of humanity......
then you and your guns will have to go outside the NOLA City Limits.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:00 AM
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14. By what authority?
N/T
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:48 AM
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6. THE FEDS WANTED THEM CONFISCATED SO * WOULD BE SAFE
when he visited!!

Sorry for screaming, but it was obvious to me why they suddenly cracked down on the guns when I saw Idiot Son riding around in an OPEN humvee through the streets of NO. Does anyone think I'm wrong about this?
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:49 AM
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7. This is what they do
When they have nothing to nail someone on, they start making things up.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:53 AM
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8. This is an ILLEGAL decision
Anybody involved in ordering these illegal actions needs to be kicked out of office immediately. Thank God the NRA and the SAF are willing to step forward to protect the right to bear arms.

Confiscation in America cannot be allowed under any circumstances, at any place, at any time.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:07 AM
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15. While I agree that gun ownership is legal, I'm not ready to praise the NRA
and SAF. They aren't exactly looking out for the best interest of the American people. They're just looking to blame Democrats for something we didn't do and use it as a wedge issue in red areas that may go blue du to *'s incompetency.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:11 AM
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16. Where's the information that Nagin is to blame?
"God bless the NRA"--a good laugh!
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:03 PM
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12. The problem is the NRA and other groups are now falsly accusing Nagin
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 01:04 PM by bushmeat
I am seeing them blaming him all over the net.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:06 PM
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13. There was plenty of outrage on DU over those confiscations
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 04:10 PM by benEzra
as a visit to the Gungeon would have shown.

Barging into people's homes without a warrant, handcuffing the homeowners in the street, and ransacking the house for lawfully owned firearms. Is that your vision of how America works??

If they were kicking in people's doors, handcuffing the occupants, and stealing their newspapers instead, would you be the slightest bit bothered?

What the officers did was blatantly illegal, at LEAST a 10-year Federal felony, plus too many violations of Lousiana state law to count. In many states (possibly Lousiana), the occupants of the home would have been legally justified in using deadly force in self-defense; THAT's how illegal it was.

The ACLU should be all over this. A Federal court has already issued a restraining order against the police, and I hope all the stolen firearms are returned and the perpetrators prosecuted.

Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin should press for prosecution of those involved, and condemn the confiscations in the STRONGEST possible terms. Remember that the majority of Democrats in Lousiana own guns; if Nagin turns out to have been part of this, he's in a heap of trouble. As far as Mayor Nagin, I have no idea if he was involved or not. The guy on ABC news saying "we're going to confiscate all the guns" was the deputy police chief, not the mayor. The officers doing the confiscation were reportedly some NOPD, DEA (seen in one video), CHP, and reportedly a few Oklahoma National Guard troops who should have known better.
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