Please explain to me how US troops in Iraq are fighting for my freedom.

[iconoclastic cat]

Or anywhere, for that matter.

I'm dead serious: explain this argument to me as if I am a cognitively delayed two-year-old, because I don't understand it.

Of course I support the troops: I want to get them home ASAP, don't I? But I don't understand how my freedom is being defended by having troops fighting in Iraq.

Go ahead. Put on your fascist hat and have at it.

(Note: this was inspired by this thread:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4883746)

(Edit #2: Somebody brave needs to cut and paste my post, then post it on a reich-wing site. Report back before it gets locked.)

(Edit #3: Nobody's even going to try to explain this argument?)

(Edit #4: I posted at Redstate: http://dummie.redstate.org/story/2005/9/25/19121/5014 )

[understandinglife]

1. Nothing to explain. They are not there fighting for your freedom.

Those who say they are, are repeating a lie.

Nothing more.

Just repeating Bush and the neoconsters' big lie.


Peace.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Iraq's pending/present civil war, which will kill hundreds and

hundreds of thousands, will leave less people to vie (sp) over the earl there... in some small way this may make you freer to purchase a Hummer, or an SUV. As far as being safer though, you can totally forget about it.

PS: The only thing freer is our corporate hands on Iraq's economy.. and that's just about it.

[sellitman]

3. As I understand it..

Unless you back up GWB 100% you are a terrorist sympathizer, a traitor and menace to Freedom everywhere. :sarcasm:

If junior tells you we are fighting for our freedom who am I to disagree? :sarcasm:

[MindPilot]

4. Yeah, I wanna know too

There is absolutely nothing an Iraqi, or a terrorist, or anybody outside of the United States Government can do to affect my freedom.

If the soldiers were fighting for my freedom, they'd be occupying the white house.

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Exactly!

So far, nobody has even attempted to explain the argument.

[bonito]

6. War profiteers at the expense of your freedom.n/t

[sakabatou]

7. They're fighting for Dubya's freedom

As long as they fight he stays out of jail.

[meti57b]

Iraqis may come over here, take over WashDC, outlaw Christianity and

beer.

[sabra]

8. simple 9/11

There is still a decent percentage (~30%), who think Iraq is related to 9/11. Hence fighting dem terrarists "over there", is securing our freedom over here.

got it :-)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

14. sabra, that is the same % that still supports a shrub in orfice.

one might begin to think there is a connection of some sorts.

[damntexdem]

9. It's simple, they're fighting for your freedom to ...

drive an SUV while paying outrageous prices. Well, that's why they were sent, to steal Iraq's oil; but they're not proving very successful at it. So it all boils down to whether you think that despite Bushista incompetence, the troops are really still fighting for your right to pay outrageously for stolen oil.

Next weeK: we take up the topic of your freedom to shop only at WalMart.

;-)

[grytpype]

10. Here's why. Really.

This is my honest attempt to explain as convincingly as possible why the Iraq war is for our freedom. No foolin.

1. The terrorists attacked us on 9/11 because they hate our freedom. They are freedom-hating people.

2. We are now fighting terrorists in Iraq. And remember, terrorists hate freedom, so the people we are fighting in Iraq hate freedom too.

3. If we pull out now, the terrorists will have won. And they hate freedom. So their winning can't be good for freedom, right? Because they are freedom-haters.

Now what, exactly, losing our freedom to the terrorists would look like is a mystery to me. Are we supposed to believe they would take over and make us all wear beards? That's the big fat weak link in the chain.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

12. thee and me should combine posts. or thoughts.

we can't go on meeting like this. :)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. lemme try

First, our great nation suffered a surprise attack, without any warning, on our SOIL on 9/11, which changed the world. This world has an axis of evil, part of which attacked us, that has sought WMD and supports terror. Saddam is a bad man who used WMD on his own people. He started wars against our allies. He tortures prisoners. The world is safer without him. He has stockpiled WMD to be used in 45 minutes against the US, because of his Al Qaida connections, along with his yellowcake and aluminum tubes. His remote planes could have struck us in 45 minutes. He is an enemy to Israel so therefore, he had to go. And the whirled is a shaper place because of it.

Saddam is evil because he hates us for our freedoms. The terrorists hate us for our freedoms. Saddam hates democracy, and after we flattened Falujah, our efforts to allow them to pick their own constitution have been a total success. They now have a country they run democratically. Which would you rather have, an axis country under Saddam, or a freedom loving democracy that we now have in Iraq? Would you want that bad man back, Saddam, that evil terrorist guy, in power, ready to gather his WMD and invade the US? You traitor!

Oh by the way, to protect our freedoms that they hate so much, especially Saddam, we are seeking Patriot II which will protract our freedoms even more against thugs and evil bad men like Saddam - which he hates.

Oh, by the way, Saddam's neighbors are also complicit, including Syria, Iran, Jordan, and other countries.

Pakistan? naw. They did not spread WMD or nuke technology, other than what we know about, but that is under control because we are aware where it went.

But we are getting good news from Iraq, without that freedom hating Saddam. First, things are much better there now than ever before. The new elected leaders love us for our freedoms. They support our freedoms and they don't have WMD. And now we know that they have no yellow cake or centrifuges, so that is another success from our Iraqi invasion. Now that we know that those do not exist, we can take credit for them not being there. It is because we invaded now that Saddam never had those weapons before. It is matter of perspective. Neoconmanism is right, and all you foolish-librul, troop-hating, traitors just don't get it. That's ok. With our new freedoms, we will have new places for you. soon.

Trust us. We know more than you. Or anyone. So, just let us have our way, and everyone will be hippy. Really. We mean it. Ignore that man behind that curtain.

[izzie]

13. They are not fighting for me but for Bush and his ego

And it looks pretty bad. ben Laden has won this war and every one in the world knows it but the few Am. living in some never-never land.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. During one of his congressional debates, Paul Hackett said it, and I

washed my hands of him.