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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:45 PM Original message |
The REAL problem with A.N.S.W.E.R. is the U.S. public. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. There is an underlying core issue and that IS US and multi-national |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'm glad you found it worth reading. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Excedlent read. Glad to see you've gotten nomed up to greatest page. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. It's a first for me! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. kicked and nominated eom |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Thanks! |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree with you...I can't understand why some here get their panties |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. I have no problem with most of ANSWER's platform, but |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I agree. |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. There was NO bait and switch by ANSWER |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I've never seen that flier. |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. That's right, we were a captive audience. |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. All I'm saying is that it wasn't ANSWER that was pushing the Iraq message. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
75. Well, I have to say that anyone who traveled hundreds or thousands... |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Isn't today's short soundbite politics part of what got us into this mess |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. On the contrary, it was "Fund people's needs, not the war machine" |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. According to United For Peace and Justice, the co-sponsor, |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. They are not ANSWER though. |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. I watched CSPAN coverage, did not see what is painted here. Not a given |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
74. "nobody is stopping ANSWER..from having rallies that address their issues" |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. I admit I haven't read all the many long complaints about answer |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Here's A.N.S.W.E.R.s Coalition: |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
92. Read a bit about them... |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. As someone who was there |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
13. A.M.E.N. Zhade*** |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
77. And to think, we fought a few weeks back! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. great post |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Yes...Haiti is a disaster and I was glad to listen to the speaker on it |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
78. When even major Democratic leaders and candidates... |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. yeah, but ANSWER also shill for and defend North Korea |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. During part of the rally I was right by the group |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The problem is they are not anti-war |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Amnesty Intl on human rights in North Korea |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
80. The more I learn about A.N.S.W.E.R., the less I like. |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
21. Good post! |
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tlsmith1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
23. The Problem is Their Approach... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:19 PM Original message |
Blaming the organizers is just stupid. (Rant) |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
40. Yeah, what Rex said! And the OP |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
41. I agree, it was their show and the speeches were the price for admission, |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. If we could just energize our Dem leaders somehow. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Here's a link on a thread that I started |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Hell ya Howard would energize any rally! |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
71. Its about PR. and ANSWER is bad PR. |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
93. Actually, A.N.S.W.E.R.'s involvement IS one of the things that stopped |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. I don't even agree that ANSWERS issues are legitimate |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. What Do You Have Against Self Determination For Puerto Rico? |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Because Peurto Rico has voted on it many times |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I Was Being Sarcastic |
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Fenris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. How would cutting ties with the U.S. improve the lot of Puerto Rico? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. See Above |
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Fenris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I tell you, it's hard to distinguish anymore. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Walt, tell us, what are some of ANSWERS issues |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
37. Q: You want to win, or you want to make a point??? |
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tlsmith1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Exactly My Point |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 04:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
83. "They actually think people care!" |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. "Make-believe revolutionaries playing foolish games" |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
39. The problem with ANSWER is ANSWER |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I agree with your assessment... |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Bingo |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 09:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. You're right. It was the war in Iraq that got me looking other places. nt |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. just for perspective |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. But mainstream america doesnt have Link TV |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. not really all they saw |
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tlsmith1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. We Are Changing & They Aren't |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
45. Kick because of the good discussion. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. Well Put, Mr. Zhade |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Brilliant explaination, Sir. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 04:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
84. See, now you've taught me something. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #84 |
95. My Pleasure, Sir |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
55. In an otherwise worthy discussion and post, I wish you hadn't |
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Chi-Town Exile (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Good point |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Welcome, and who is Lerner? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. He Is A Rabbi, Ma'am |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Thank you, Magistrate. Did they explain their reasons? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 04:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
87. Their public reason was because he criticized one of the involved groups. |
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Chi-Town Exile (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Rabbi Michael Lerner |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I'll ask you too, in case you know. Did they say why exactly? |
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Chi-Town Exile (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. This link sheds some light on this |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. They support Milosevic? Zoinks! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Yea they do |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 03:35 AM Response to Reply #76 |
81. What they did to Lerner?? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 03:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
82. I'm sure that wasn't Zhade's intent... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 04:51 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Thanks for the backup, Violet. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 05:13 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. And thanks goes to you for this thread.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 05:15 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Wow, thanks! I'm very glad you and others found it worthwhile. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 04:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
85. It's the second one. |
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Chi-Town Exile (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. Great Discussion |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 04:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
88. Agreed, I'm getting a lot out of it. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
63. A thought about C-SPAN |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
66. Excellent Analysis and Very Important Suggestion.. |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
67. Very insightful, thank you. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-05 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
70. the US public is right on the fence as we speak |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 05:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
89. I don't agree with the approach, myself. |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
72. Great post, Nominated |
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ladylibertee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
79. Well put.. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
94. thank you for posting this.... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
96. So why didn't y'all just march with UFPJ like 'most everybody else? |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Unfortunately all rural America saw was the ANSWER rally |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Exactly! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. As I explained to my ancient mom and my brother |
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