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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:33 PM
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Who will be POTUS in January 06?


I never thought there would be a chance in hell to kick Bush out of the WH but I feel "a change is gonna come" real soon.

Don't flame me with reality, I just feel it in my bones.

:shrug:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:34 PM
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1. George W. Bush
No flames, but reality.

But things are getting really "interesting".
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:45 PM
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5. Yea, really interesting . Like a house of cards
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 11:45 PM by goclark
There was never a moment when his base ever wavered and now it is flip flopping all over the place.

Just look at the threads....

Greenspan is "worried" about the economy.

Georgie has been DRINKING again! --- for us surprise, surprise

Cindy is kicking his butt.

Katrina kicked his butt.

His vacation kicked his butt and the protection isn't there any more.

The Stop The War March may not have received MSM coverage but enough people were THERE to run his ass out of town!
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Chi-Town Exile Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:37 PM
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2. OMG, has something happened to Cheney?
Unfortunately, President Asshat will still be sitting in his high chair in the Oval Office.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:37 PM
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3. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
It would be nice if we could say, as we did in 2004, "ANYBODY BUT BUSH."
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:42 PM
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4. It wouldn't happen by January of 2006.
I think if we got a Democratic Congress to keep Bush in check in 2006 that it would almost be for the better to keep Bush in office until 2008 for the long term. I mean if everybody but the 25-30% of the Republican base knew Bush was a incompetent criminal by 2008 just think how hard that would make it for the GOP presidential nominee. The Party Faithful wouldn't be behind the new guy unless they felt the torch was being passed but the new guy (who ever this may be) would have to avoid Bush like the plague to even have a chance in 08.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:51 PM
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6. I hear you but I believe that the corporate chiefs


are sweating right now trying to figure how to have him take "an early retirement."

He is now embarrassing the hell out of them.

And, he is unpredictable since we KNOW by observation and leaks that he is as DRUNK as a skunk all the time.

That was OK with LBJ because he had a brain but Bush is an accident waiting to happen.



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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:16 AM
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7. at least LBJ was not a pretend "former drinker"--in addition to having one
hell of a brain.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:34 AM
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8. The debates should have told America that he has no brain

but those damn voting machines made up for his lack of grey matter.

Now, we are all suffering, so much.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:15 AM
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20. Is the Nat. Enq. leak a sympathy ploy in advance of a forced resignation?
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:04 AM
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9. BUSH Doesn't Need Bbooze Anymore -- he's on Drugs...
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OKJackson Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:18 AM
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10. NOT A REPUBLICAN! That's for DAMN SURE!
And you guys chattering about "reality" being Bush still in for 2006? Jeez, wake up. Look around you.

The house of cards *IS* falling and when it finishes collapsing, the Republicans would be lucky to be able to hold a few scant state level positions.

This is the Republican party's last stand.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:01 AM
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11. Get a Grip...
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 03:05 AM by Peter Frank
...on yourself. These guys (Bush et al) -- their days are certainly numbered. But don't launch into kind of feeding frenzy that can only give ammunition to his loyalists.

If you want *BUSH out -- do some homework and post specifics of your stand. Otherwise, you come across as just another rhetorical sheep (and there are too many of these on every side).

Please don't take what I just said personally. You seem like an intelligent person -- It's just that thoughtfulness always defeats rhetoric (for as long as people remain thoughtful).

There are very many genuine Conservatives who hate what this admin has done to our country. I for one (an Independent) used to enjoy the way Cons & Libs battled & balanced each other out. Those days are gone. One party controls all three branches of our Fed now.

Tempting as it is -- generic rhetoric is a waste of energy now. Energies must be focused on implementing change -- otherwise we're no different than the whiners we whine about.
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OKJackson Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:16 AM
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16. I do have quite a grip, have you looked at the big picture?
Zoom out for a moment.

Here we have Bush... who I could fill a solid paragraph with pronouns describing him but I won't start... who lies us into war, robs us blind, strums a guitar while people drown, etc.

That's their leader.

Then there's Cheney.
Then there's Karl Rove.
Bill Frist.
Haster.
Freeh.
Delay.
Safavian.
Abramoff.

It's a long list when you get into who is going to be removed from office shortly.

After screaming at everyone to stop asking questions, blind loyalty and refusing to question anything... there's no way in hell the Republican party is going to survive this blow.

At best they will be a marginalized party.

Their voters and those who were aspiring to run under the packaderm flag are going to move to another party out of sheer embarrassment.

The Republican party can no longer be defended.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:24 AM
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12. Who I like.
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 03:26 AM by longship
I've been a Wes Clark fan for some time. He's conservative, but I don't mind that if he can get things straightened out.

I can imagine somebody else coming out of the woodwork here, though. I'd really like to see a liberal with spine and guts take on the Repugs with--as JFK would say it--great vigor. I would love to see an African-American as President. I would love to see a woman as President. I don't see either happening in 06 at this point. (Yes, if she runs and gets the nomination, Hillary will lose. She's about the only prominent Dem who cannot win.)

But there is one person who could get me on the bandwagon very quickly. I'm very close to jumping on without his candidacy being declared. He's the most presidential of any of the prospects right now. He's sharp as a tack. He has plenty of guts. He delivers speeches without teleprompters or notes. He has an encyclopedic memory. He is competent beyond any question. And he has all the necessary experience. Who is that?

It's this guy:

He's very Presidential in this picture. Maybe not his image, but what he's doing. He's taking charge. A concept that Chimpster does not understand.

I could support Gore with no qualifications in 2008. He's probably the only prospective candidate at this point for whom I could make that statement.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:08 AM
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14. Vise-President Gore sure did sound good
President Gore Damn sure sounds good. He is a proven leader and leaders are born, not made. Al Gore is probably the only man to have what it takes to turn this country around. True LEADERSHIP
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:51 AM
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13. Yeah, it's a gut feeling...change gonna come, sooner than later.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:10 AM
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15. Colin Powell and/or John McCain
I don't think this is going to happen, but it's fun to speculate. Unfortunately it will be a republican, because the most likely constitutional way forward is the Nixon/Ford strategy. First the ultra corrupt vp (Agnew/Cheney) is forced to resign, and the outgoing president gets to appoint a new vp. Nixon appointed Ford. If this scenario plays out today, part of it will involve establishment republicans retaking control of their party. The two most popular establishment, non-crazy republicans are Powell and McCain.

I think it will be Powell because of his greater experience, and because the establishment republicans want to break the Democratic monopoly on the African American vote.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:21 AM
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17. GWB
Don't see ANY other choice at all.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:31 AM
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18. Meet The New Boss...Same As The Old Boss
Ready for a change? Then there's a local Democratic party office that could use some help.

The change needed in retaking the House of Representatives. That's where the investigations begin...where the funding goes through and the greatest source of our pain. Life in this country turned for the worse when the Repugnicans took control of the House in '94...everything else has been piling on.

Wish I could feel anything other than numb when it comes to this regime.

Peace...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:41 AM
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19. Whomever our corporate masters choose
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:17 AM
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21. You sound like you've given up. If you haven't, you need to write more.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:31 AM
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22. Take it for what it's worth: Sarcasm with grain of truth.
I haven't given up, but until we start demanding, en masse, accountability in the voting process, an independent media, a genuine opposition party, then the corporate rulers hold all the cards.

Like Mark Twain and FDR said, it's time for a new deal from a deck of cards that aren't stacked against us. That's what I'm working on.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:04 AM
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23. Thank you for writing more.
Without the extra, all we are left with is the resignation. Sarcasm is great. "Difficile est saturam non scribere." (It is difficult not to write satire) Juvenal (60-130). But if it is just left there, then that's all there is. Thank you for appending a call to action.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:26 AM
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24. Ted Stevens
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 09:27 AM by Independent_Liberal
Hastert is going down for Turkeygate.
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