My encounter w Fundie X-ians in DC on Sunday.

[mod mom]

I went to DC for the rally with my husband and children (ages 7 and 9). On Sunday we took the kids to the Smithsonian and National Gallery. On our way to the Smithsonian we saw these 4 men toking bibles and bullhorns ahead of us. Two men in black suits wearing yamulkas crossed path with these men. The 4 men stopped and started yelling hateful rhetoric about how only Jesus Christ was the true lord and how they worshipped satan through their bull horn. The two men shook their heads and continued on their way.

Our blood was boiling as we approached these despicable men. "How dare you insult those men. Jesus Christ would preach tolerance of others" I said. "You are nothing but a bunch of hateful, despicable miscreants" (probably not the best term but in a heated moment one does not ponder multiple meanings). My husband joined in and they started to insult us over the bull horn: "satan loving, blah blah blah..., can't control your wife, blah blah blah" and finally my husband said "FUCK YOU" to them. My children were actually cracking up at this encounter saying "those are bu$hbots, right?" Then men continued throwing insults to us over the bullhorn as we entered the Natural History Museum.

After our visit to the Smithsonian, we journeyed over to the National Gallery were we ecnountered the Pro War Protest. The backdrop was a huge American flag (a telltale sign). There were perhaps 200 pro war attendees (the above men must have been on their way to this rally) and probably more porta potties than pro-war people.

[Zuni]

1. I saw those guys

[mod mom]

5. They had that "deliverance" look, didn't they?

[marmar]

2. They showed their rally on the National Mall yesterday on CSPAN...

You could hear the birds and crickets there were so few people there.

[rwork]

3. Good one modmom

for having the courage to take them on.

[bleedingheart]

4. "can't control your wife"...ah...the Christian Taliban....

clearly they are illiterate cuz if they read those bibles they might have a better idea of what Jesus was talking about.

[Clark2008]

21. Wonder what they'd think if I started explaining

Mary Magdaline and the sacred feminine to them!

:rofl:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

48. They'd go

"OMG no! You lie! Magdalene was a slut! Stone her!"

Disgusting bastards.

[DoYouEverWonder]

92. Those Pauline Christians

haven't got a clue.

[displacedtexan]

6. I saw those guys, too.

They were yelling through that bullhorn and pumping their Bibles like free weights long before the march even began.

BTW, the National gallery is the best place to go to the restroom: no lines.

[flakey_foont]

7. I saw those wankers too

but, you are just wasting your breath trying to argue with them....
their version of Xtianity - anyone who disagrees with THEIR views is a tool of de debbil........will not change no matter what. I believe that they are in a bubble because of fear and insecurity - what if their beliefs turn out not to be true!!! yoicks! They have to reinforce that as much as possible, can't have their bubbles pricked

[shadowknows69]

71. If its the same two I'm thinking of

I interviewed them. They hung themselves as expected.

[sakabatou]

74. I bet if you made them lsiten to AAR

They'd go batshitcrazy. :evilgrin:

[havocmom]

8. While it must have been majorly annoying to have your Sunday field trip

pissed on by the clowns who confuse themselves with God, it was a very sound illustration for your kids and they got the message. THAT will serve them well in their futures. Take heart in that fact.

Not only did you and your husband stand up to bullies, you showed your kids what you are made of and that one SHOULD speak truth to lies, even if the lies are louder.

You and your family have done much to restore my hope for all our futures! Thank you for sharing your adventure with us!

nominated

[FreedomAngel82]

53. Phil Donahue said it best on O'Reilly's little show

Donahue said "loud isn't always right."

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Sounds exactly like a college campus in the Spring!

I grew up in a college town. Every Spring, Brother Jedd arrived on campus and stood in the center for two or three days shouting "Whores! Sinners! Jesus is the only truth, repent!" to students and staff walking past. He always drew a crowd that had a lot of fun taunting and ridiculing him.

It was entertaining at times. But, it was also disconcerting to be a target of his when a large crowd wasn't present. I often wondered if he managed to pick up a few followers on those trips. I suspect he did.

There was a time when we looked at these people as the fanatical lunatics they are. We didn't have to worry about having them intrude on our daily lives, insisting compliance in the name of freedom and justice through Jayeeesus. Those were the good ole days though. *sigh*

[NiteOwll]

14. Same thing at my college...

Oh wait, we're from the same state. Maybe it was the same school. Our fanatic used to make me so mad. It's one thing to get up there to rant and rave about whatever topic you want, but to insult people was another. Unfortunately, you really couldn't avoid him if you had to get to class, since he stood right in the middle of the campus.

[Norquist Nemesis]

33. I often wondered why the campus' Keystone Cops

didn't kick him off campus when he started that crap. IIRC, he did get 'moved' one year to a street corner just outside the campus boundary. Then the locals complained. :rofl:

[WoodrowFan]

18. is he still around???

I saw him at three different schools in Ohio & Indiana in the late 70s and early 80s. At one school when he hit a girl who was ignoring him over the head with his Bible a bunch of jocks picked him up and tossed him in a shallow "moat" around the Student Building.

[Norquist Nemesis]

31. Not sure.

We moved upstate to the burbs about ten years ago. I haven't really had much contact with people from there since. :)

[WoodrowFan]

70. heck, he has a web site!

Wow, Brother Jed has a website even!

http://www.brojed.org/

[salin]

87. I must remember "Max" he was way older than this back in the late

eighties - but he did - at the least - the whole bigten circuit.

[YOY]

81. He was at Kent 10 years ago

I remember him. Watta hoser.

[jpak]

19. Brother Jed and Sister Cindy!!!! LOL!!!!

I swear the University hired those two for street theater comedy....

:)

[Norquist Nemesis]

30. Yes! Sister Cindy!

I couldn't recall her name, but that was it! I think he realized his act needed something new so he brought her out as a new twist. Probably gave him the companionship *wink wink* he yearned for all of those lonely days on the road, too! :rofl:

[wellstone_democrat]

57. U of New Mexico in c.1980 also

my, that was quite a show. We used to heckle him. What a bozo and she was something bizarre too

[Clark2008]

25. Was this at the University of Tennessee?

Because we ALSO had one of those types there on campus every year.

He'd call all of the women whores because they were seeking a higher education instead of being subservient to a husband and birthing 20 children.

I used to laugh in his face.

[Norquist Nemesis]

29. It was at Eastern Illinois University

Although Brother Jed might have shown up in TN as well. LOL!

[Gemini Cat]

36. They were at Ohio State too.

Jed, Cindy (we called her the Disco Queen) and some other ass who was older. We always had a lot of fun with them. }(

[MarsThe Cat]

38. "some other ass who was older" can only mean MAX!!!

University of Illinois, early 80's, afternoons on the quad.

[Gemini Cat]

39. That's it!

I couldn't remember his name. LOL!
BTW Welcome to DU!!

[BiggJawn]

73. We had "Brother Maxx"

"There was a time when we looked at these people as the fanatical lunatics they are. We didn't have to worry about having them intrude on our daily lives, insisting compliance in the name of freedom and justice through Jayeeesus. Those were the good ole days though."

Verily, for now we have to be "sensitive" to their belief, because you never know, they might wake up some morning with a burning fire to become a Democrat...:sarcasm:

[salin]

86. I just *had* to check to see if you were from the midwest

I think Jedd is the same guy who used to (still does?) come through IU on a preiodic basis. Yep - often a circle around him not quite agreeing with him.

But mostly I noticed that most folks just completely ignored him. Walked by as if he was invisible. Almost embarassed for him.

[AirmensMom]

10. The "Christians" in this country are so out of touch with the gospel.

Bad, bad preaching. We gave up our church membership because we couldn't stand all the crap that's going on in our churches. They preach from best-selling books instead of the Bible. All the sermons are about how to get God to give you more stuff ... oh yeah, that was before the "fight for our freedoms." Couldn't tell you what they're preaching now, but it apparently ain't a message of peace!

I'm sorry you had to encounter those pseudo-Christians, although I'm very glad you could be there. Thank you!

:hi:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

26. co-opted by the Neocons, funded with Tax dollars, and brainwashed

by "Us or Them" crap.

Lenin had it right about religions.

[woodsprite]

11. I seriously think these people suffer

from either mental illness (dependency issues) or brain washing. My MIL and SIL are among them. When MIL gets vehement and really nasty, there is a glazed look which comes over her. I've known this woman for 30 years, and she only got like this over the last 5 years or so. My SIL made a queer statement to me when we went on our very first (and maybe last) extended family vacation this summer. She said "Oh, 10 days - we're gonna be in nowhere land for 10 days? I don't know if I can afford to miss church 2 weekends in a row." Nowhere land to her is heaven to me -- Rodanthe, NC. There are churches on the Outer Banks, just none she deemed appropriate. The campground had a non-denominational service and she went. DH, myself and our two kids locked our camper door and slept in.

My daughter said "Mom, when you get old you're not gonna get all wierd like grandmom, are you?"

I told her "Hell, no! And if I do, put me out of my misery because you know I'm not in touch with reality."

[FreedomAngel82]

54. I think it's brainwashing personally

They don't read their own Bible's but instead listen to people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson who wear the name Christian but in reality are nothing like what Jesus said.

[rbajai]

12. insulting people through a megaphone is certainly not an effective way

to get a message accross.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

13. Ah, the Mall on a Sunday

Believe me, those crackpots are there all the time, and they'll berate anyone. That's the beauty of free speech. I've been yelled at by them for wearing jeans, carrying a briefcase, giving them the finger, and standing too close to them while I explained what I was gonna do to a man when I got naked with him at home later that night.

They're just a bunch of frustrated virgins who think that might be the best way to meet really hot chicks..............

[zbdent]

15. Hey, they're infiltrating our territory!

Aren't we supposed to be the anti-Semitic party?

:sarcasm: :eyes:

[mod mom]

46. I don't get this comment even if it's sarcasm.

[zbdent]

91. According to reichwingers, Cindy Sheehan (and, by proxy, us) has been

making "anti-Semitic" statements - anti-Jewish.

Because she is associated with "the loony left", and because of them lying about what she says, we are now "haters of Jews" (which surprises me, since the KKK seems to be more in line with what the Repukes are all about).

Anyway, two men in yamulkas would appear to be Jewish - and the fundie freaks start wailing on them because they're "Jewish" - don't believe in Jesus. Big no-no in their idea of tolerance.

So, since "we on the left are the party who hates Jews" (mainly because we also believe that Palestinians are human, too), these people are "horning in on our territory" (:sarcasm:) because they hate the Jewish appearing people.

Better? Clearer?

[Village Idiot]

16. How the right manage to spin the perceived persecution...

of a national WHITE XIAN MAJORITY is very far beyond my ken...

[paineinthearse]

17. toking?

:rofl:

I think you mean "toating", but your flip is priceless! :hug:

[mod mom]

22. Oops, it was a funny mistake. I posted in haste cuz I had to pick up my

dogs after getting home. Maybe a little toking instead of toting would have served those guys well. I don't recall ever encountering anyone high spewing hatred.

[Ladyhawk]

23. "toating"?

I think you meant toting, but um...er...never mind. ;)

:hug:

[paineinthearse]

35. You are right, a misspell

You didn't catch the other one, entered "flip" when I meant "Freudian slip". Coined a new acronym.

[Ladyhawk]

24. I bet bible pages make good roaches. n/t

[Ladyhawk]

20. How old are your kids?

I'm just curious because my fundy mom nearly crammed a bible down my throat for saying the word "fuck" in front of my 12-year-old nephew (now 14). Yet, the war in Iraq is just fine by her.

Fundies are weird. Their "morality" is all about sex and "swear" words: things that don't actually hurt anybody.

[mod mom]

27. My kids are 7 and 9. We never used to swear in front of them but they are

aware that certain words are inappropriate. They also are aware that using those words are nowhere as bad as spewing hatred, starting a war based on lies, leaving the poor to de-hydrate and starve in 100 degree heat, stealing an election, etc.

My children are veteran peace marchers, prior to the war and of course during the war. They also marched after the election theft in Ohio last fall. I do have a funny story about our march on Saturday. When we were in front of the White House among the huge mass of protestors, the crowd erupted en masse with a symbolic flipping off the president. Marek is aware that this is usually inappropriate but asked if he and his sister could join in. What could a mother do but explain that this administration was so evil that yes they could and we did a family middle finger salute to his evilness.

[Ladyhawk]

28. I think your priorities are lined up just fine. :) n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

55. You should show

her some pictures from the war. Babies and young kids and mothers.

[VolcanoJen]

32. Ahhhh, the American Taliban!

:eyes:

Nice work, modmom!!

[JHB]

34. What is it about these types any porta-potties?

Not that I don't value readily-available toilet facilities, but these freeper events always seem to have abnormally high potty-to-participant ratios.

Do they overestimate attandance that drastically (consistently), or do they get their bowels in an uproar in more ways that one?

[paineinthearse]

37. A valid question for the Congressional Budget Office!

They oversee federal expenditure, so why not ask them to study the issue.

Perhaps Rep Waxman, ranking member of the Government Reform Committee would be willing to commission the study.

Enquiring minds want to know!

[JHB]

40. They're not government potties, so what's yer point?

n/t

[paineinthearse]

43. Thought they were paid by the NPS

If freepers want to pay $ for portapotty rentals, I say "be my guest".

[katinmn]

63. They are well funded by the RNC.

Whereas we have to chip in and pay for ours, the Bushbots have all their expenses paid for. From airline tickets, to buses to porta-potties, they will spare no expense to promote war (because there's money in it).

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

76. When you are that full of shit like the freeps are.....

....it's a safety hazard not to have enough on hand.

[hootinholler]

41. "we saw these 4 men toking bibles and bullhorns"

What a mental image!

:rofl:

-Hoot

[BiggJawn]

89. One toke over the line, sweet Jeeebus, one toke over the line....

Sittin' downtown with my Bullhorn waitin', one toke over the line....
:rofl:

[kweerwolf]

42. I've had similar experiences locally with bullhorn-toting fundies.

The best one was with a couple of guys who were trading the bullhorn back and forth and "broadcasting" the usual hellfire and brimstone crap. I happened to walk by them as they were trading the bullhorn and asked in the swishiest voice I could manage, "So are you two lovers or what?" It enraged the one with the bullhorn so bad that he put it to his lips and let fly with an extremely loud "fuck you!" at which point the cops who were patroling the area promptly moved in and took the guys away.

Not sure what happened to them or whether they were charged (though I imagine they were cited for disorderly conduct at least) but the cops got a big hand from the people hanging around the area for removing the mini-scourge.

[paineinthearse]

44. Brilliant!

:applause:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

49. ROFL n/t

[Kali]

88. cough-bark-hahahaha

:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh that made my day - good one!

:woohoo: :toast: :rofl: :rofl:

[Thtwudbeme]

45. Oh I saw them....They were the ones I turned around

and asked "what the HELL they were even talking about?" I wasn't kidding, either...I just thought they were freaks-

You know, rallies bring out all types. I think your kids had the best response!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

47. "Can't control your wife..."

Oh, lord, you (quite literally) fucking misogynist asshats. Stop anally raping your own wives and get with the 21st century, you Stepford Bastards.

[mod mom]

50. Very eloquently said, WIMR! nt

[WritingIsMyReligion]

51. Meh; I'm a feminist, so I HATE

that part of fundie christianity. Makes me WILDLY pissed off...

[Dark]

67. You mean there's a part you like?

Well, the bake sales can be nice, I suppose. . .

[WritingIsMyReligion]

79. LOL....

No, there most definitely isn't, but that part pisses me off more than most others.

Even the bake sales are shit... :D

[5thGenDemocrat]

65. "Can't control your wife (take two)"

Should've told 'em "Oh, we're not MARRIED!" Let 'em chew on that one for a while.
John
That is, if they had any teeth.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

78. ROFL n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

52. What an interesting experience

LOL on the porta-potties. Of course! I wonder too if those men went to the rally when Jesus was the Prince of Peace. :shrug:

[NMMNG]

56. Oooh, love those compassionate conservatives

:eyes: :puke:

Those sorts are why I'm BTFS.

[EstimatedProphet]

58. I saw those clowns Saturday too

All they did was embarras themselves.

[knitter4democracy]

59. Didn't I go to college with those guys?

They sound like so many at our college (Mount Vernon Nazarene--yeah, the one that got Kenyon's voting machines). People like that are even scarier when you get to know them.

[DistressedAmerican]

60. 5th Nomination! Great Story!

Your Kids kill me!

"those are bu$hbots, right?"

Got to know what they look and act like for your own good kids!

[barbtries]

61. good for you

for standing up to them and telling them the truth. how do they reconcile hate mongering with jesus christ?

[tomg]

62. Absolutely great role modeling

for your kids. And they know what bushbots are. Awesome.

[mod mom]

64. thank you. My son's tee shirt read:

FRONT:
My America has more colors than just red, white and blue

BACK:
America's diversity is America's strength. Don't just tolerate diversity. Defend it. Celebrate it. Contribute to it.

****
Sure beats corporate logos for a message to our kids, doesn't it?

[IndyOp]

66. Did you make it yourself? Is it for sale online?

Great, great sentiment!

[mod mom]

68. Cafe Press: Irregular Times (.com)

[IndyOp]

69. Thanks!

Here is the link to the T-shirt in case anyone else is interested...

<http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/store/irregulargoods.8076421>

I still want to make a shirt quoting the local Unitarian minister. He visited Israel/Palestine and he talked with dozens and dozens of people on all sides of the issues. When he talked to one conservative member of the Likkud that person told him that he had met only fringe elements, with loonies... Bill's retort:

So long as walls, weapons, and wars are considered the solution by the so-called 'sane' - I'll stand with the insane.

[tomg]

72. Great shirt, mod mom.

And it sure does beat corporate logos. Our 12 year-old was supposed to go with us, but he caught a stomach virus. He gave me his video camera, though, and I got a lot of it on tape for him.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

75. Good job....except......

....for the "F--- You" part. Yeah, I enjoy a good well placed f-word once in a great while, but it doesn't exactly put you on the debate team. Those idiots probably live to hear that.

I know it was hubby who did it, a perfect time for you to grin real big and say "I can't control him sometimes".

[donheld]

77. They are Whited Sepultures!

They may have wonderful appearances, full of dead men's bones.

[Pacifist Patriot]

80. "can't control your wife" sounds like the same misogynist crap

the freepers spewed at our local rally on Saturday. They kept harping on the fact that so many women were speakers.

Proof that Republicans hate vaginas.

[TankLV]

90. I don't know why they do. If it weren't for vaganis, we wouldn't be here

and I wouldn't have many of my best construction workers!

(Hard to imagine somebody that large came out of a little thing like that!)

[Az]

82. Hit them with Luke 6:30 and take their bullhorns away

If they refuse you get to call them hypocrits.

[sakabatou]

84. This it?

"Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back." Luke 6:30

[Az]

85. Thats the one

Simply have them look the verse up and then ask them for their bullhorns. Be prepared to be amazed at all the excuses and denials that follow.

[Vinnie From Indy]

83. self delete