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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:39 PM
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Remember Pastor Martin Niemöller TODAY
Cindy Sheehan arrested TODAY in front of White House,
Sylvia Hardy, 73, from Exeter, England,jailed TODAY for protesting
Frida Berrigan, who is at the Pentagon, where she has just been arrested TODAY along with roughly 40 others while demonstrating.

When are they coming FOR YOU?

'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.' Pastor Martin Niemöller
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:09 PM
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1. Amen and Amen
O8) :patriot:
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:48 PM
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2. info about MNiemoeller from www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
Martin Niemoeller
(1892-1984)

Martin Niemoeller was a Protestant pastor born January 14, 1892, in Lippstadt, Westphalia. He was a submarine commander in World War I. He was anti-communist and initially supported the Nazis until the church was made subordinate to state authority.

In 1934, he started the Pastors’ Emergency League to defend the church. Hitler became angered by Niemoeller’s rebellious sermons and popularity and had him arrested on July 1, 1937. He was tried the following year and sentenced to seven months in prison and fined.

After his release, Hitler ordered him arrested again. he spent the next seven years in concentration camps in “protective custody.“ He was liberated in 1945 and was elected President of the Protestant church in Hesse and Nassau in 1947. He held the title until 1964. He was also a President of the World Council of Churches in the 1960’s.

Niemoeller was a pacifist who spoke out against nuclear weapons. He is best known for his powerful statement about the failure of Germans to speak out against the Nazis:

“First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”

He died in Wiesbaden on March 6, 1984.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:42 PM
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3. Thanks for the data about Martin Niemöller

The quote I use the bottom of my web blog:

http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com

is very slightly different. It may be because of the translation:

'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.' Pastor Martin Niemöller
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:49 PM
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4. info about the Confessing Church founded by Niemoeller, KBarth, + DBonhoef
DBonhoeffer

http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/node/3

....

Bonhoeffer's theologically rooted opposition to National Socialism first made him a leader, along with Martin Niemueller and Karl Barth, in the Confessing Church (bekennende Kirche), and an advocate on behalf of the Jews. Indeed, his efforts to help a group of Jews escape to Switzerland were what first led to his arrest and imprisonment in the spring 1943. His leadership in the anti-Nazi Confessing Church and his participation in the Abwehr resistance circle (beginning in February 1938) make his works a unique source for understanding the interaction of religion, politics, and culture among those few Christians who actively opposed National Socialism, as is particularly evident in his drafts for a posthumously published Ethics.

His thought provides not only an example of intellectual preparation for the reconstruction of German society after the war but also a rare insight into the vanishing social and academic world that had preceded it. Bonhoeffer was also a spiritual writer, a musician and an author of fiction and poetry. The integrity of his Christian faith and life, and the international appeal of his writings, have led to a broad consensus that he is the one theologian of his time to lead future generations of Christians into the new millenium.

He was hanged in the concentration camp at Flossenbürg on April 9, 1945, one of four members of his immediate family to die at the hands of the Nazi regime for their participation in the small Protestant resistance movement. The letters he wrote during these final two years of his life were posthumously published by his student and friend, Eberhard Bethge, as Letters and Papers from Prison. His correspondence with his fiance, Maria von Wedermeyer, has been published as Love Letters from Cell 92.


(his twin sister was married to a U of Goettingen professor whose father was Jewish---I don't know if the sister's husband was Jewish or Christian or whatever in belief, but of course it was biology not theology that was important to the Nazis)

(Bethge was not just Bohoeffer's student and friend; he was married to one of Bonhoeffer's nieces)
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