(I suggest) March on DC police station!!!!!!!!!!

[Dying Eagle]

We need a Human chain across the doors! Make them arrest EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD I WISH I LIVED IN DC!!!!!!!!


Edit: confusion, I want it to happen, it is not happening yet.

[rosesaylavee]

1. What station are you getting this on? I don't have cable...

[applegrove]

2. I think this is playing into what the Rove WH wants. You do need

a permit for a demonstration. If you demonstrate w/out a permit - you are going to jail.

Come on guys.

[villager]

3. where does the 1st amendment say you "need a permit?"

n/t

[gatorboy]

9. *In my best German accent*

"May I see your papers, please!!"

[applegrove]

12. Law & order say you need a permit. Safety & security. The same

laws also state no private goons can attack you. But when you don't have a permit - you get arrested. That is normal.

[villager]

13. sorry, not normal. I didn't read Jefferson arguing for "permits."

If you support "permits," you support GOP "free speech" zones.

Simple as that.

[applegrove]

19. Sorry. Now permits that allow for demonstrations are actually illegal.

People get hurt when demonstration do not follow a plan. And people used to get hurt when there was no plan for permits. Any mayor or police force then had the right to yell "private property".

Seems we really are going back in time to the 19th Century.

[villager]

21. apples n ' oranges

We're not talking about demonstrations not following a plan or having a strategy -- just not kowtowing to what the authorities "allow" in terms of "permitted" "free" speech.

The 19th century? Yeah, unquestioning obedience to the "owners" of that public/"private" property will whisk us back there in a flash...

[Mabus]

15. Time, place, manner restrictions on 1st Amendment per court rulings

Sidewalk, streets, and parks are what are known as traditional forums and “have immemorially been held in trust for the use of the public, and time out of mind, have been used for purposes of assembly, communicating thoughts between citizens, and discussing public questions.” Hague v. CIO, 307 U.S. 496, 515 (1939). The government cannot deny the public access to a traditional public forum nor can it regulate use of the forum based on the content of one’s speech. Perry Education Ass’n v. Perry Local Educators’ Ass’n, 460 U.S. 37, 45 (1983). However, the government is permitted to impose “reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions” within a public forum so long as the regulations are “narrowly tailored to serve a significant government interest, and leave open ample alternative channels of communication.” Id. In short, the government may set reasonable rules in a public forum, those rules can be no more expansive than is necessary to accomplish the government’s purpose and such rules can not be used to completely deny access to the traditional public forum.

Thus, the government may be able to prevent protesters from completely blocking a thoroughfare to traffic, such as a street or sidewalk, but cannot curtail any more speech than is necessary to accomplish that goal. Similarly, government can regulate use of sound amplification equipment, such as limiting the decibel level and requiring a permit, but would normally not be able to bar use of amplification equipment entirely. Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 491 U.S. 781 (1989).

source: http://www.aclu-nj.org/downloads/RightToProtest.pdf ACLU "Right to Protest" pdf file. On edit: That's the New Jersey ACLU.

[tyedyeto]

4. Permits for 'We the People' to peacefully assemble?

What a load of crap!!

[thereismore]

5. Let me see...hmm...what would the ORIGINALIST interpretation of

the 1st amendment be...permit or no permit? That's a tough one!

[ken_g]

6. Read Gandhi, a peaceful protest whose goal IS to be arrested

reveals the brutality of the regime AND attracts media attention to that brutality. Remember, they represent +/-60% of the US population.

[Berserker]

8. Lets think about this

Saturday there were hundreds of thousands of protesters with a permit and the media did not cover it. Today Cindy was arrested and the media is all over it now others are getting arrested for protesting and the media will have to start paying attention to the protests. It's called civil Disobedience. Seems this is the only way to get the media to cover protesters.

[applegrove]

18. That may be true. It is also a way to cloud her message. I just think

she has done an excellent job in getting her case out. I worry that now she will be limited. That her message is now clouded to that group of Americans who believe "kill whitey" is on the agenda of the left.

The message has just gotten less clear. That is what I worry about.

[Webster Green]

16. Last thing Rove wants is Cindy taking over the media again...

Which she just did.

Heh!

[kansasblue]

7. are you saying there 'is' a march on the station.... or ...

are you suggestion one?

[derby378]

10. So, are we talking "jailbreak" here or something?

Whatever you guys do, don't be reckless. Please. Be safe. We want you back.

[txaslftist]

11. What we ought to do is go down there and sit on the sidewalk, sans permis

too bad I'm twelve states away.

[titoresque]

14. I'm with you!

My feelings exactly!

I had suggested this when Cindy first went to Crawford and that mothers everywhere should turn themselves in to their local police stations and demand to be arrested in the even that they arrested Cindy. This was early on, and I'm glad it didnt go down that way. But I agree! They have gone too far! And the world is watching! Maybe not right this second on MSM......but enough people were there and the stories and the photos are making it around the world!

[SlipperySlope]

17. A permit to protest is like a permit to buy a gun!

Both UN-CON-STIT-U-TION-AL !!!

[applegrove]

20. Both save lives. Oh - I bet the GOP want to repeal both laws. Didn't

you know that before it was written into law that people could have orderly demonstrations in public places - that goons used to beat up the demonstrators?