Who was that witch arguing for the war on The NewsHour?

[Ilsa]

At the end, Gwen Ifill let her get away with saying "Shame on you" to the anti-war protestors, saying they embolden the insurgency. All of her arguments were very bogus.

We need to be saying the same to them: "Shame on you for supporting a war of lies that is killing innocent men, women and children!"

[Beaverhausen]

1. Some witches might be offended by your subject line

me, for example. We do not support the war.

[Dervill Crow]

11. Thank you!

I have yet to see a car with "My Other Car is a Broom" (or other pagan bumpersticker) and a W sticker on it.

:applause:

[Ilsa]

19. My sincerest apologies. I really didn't mean to hurt the feelings of

witches and anyone that practices an ancient religion or craft. I meant no insult to real witches. I concede I need a good flogging for this one.

Most humbly,
Ilsa

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=262x928

[Dervill Crow]

28. It's okay, Ilsa, but thanks for the apology! n/t

[Ilsa]

18. My sincerest apologies. I really didn't mean to hurt the feelings of

witches and anyone that practices an ancient religion or craft. I meant no insult to real witches. I concede I need a good flogging for this one.

Most humbly,
Ilsa

[libnnc]

2. a very bitter, uninformed, angry woman

who gets her *news* from Rush, Sean and Faux. Sad, ugly debate. It won't get any prettier I'm afraid.

[rbajai]

14. Exactly!

She was a very nasty lady for sure. All hyped up like a bulldog and yapping away. Wonder if she got some cues from Ken Melhman and Karl Rove?

[cynatnite]

3. I'd say the insurgency has been emoboldened for quite some time....

like since the INVASION!

Ignorant woman :eyes:

[Big Kahuna]

4. Are you sure she wasn't a Baptist?

Most Witches are anti-war and anti-bush :)

[Tomee450]

5. I agree about Gwen Ifil.

Usually when such an inflammatory remark is made, the host who is fair will allow the person to whom the comment was directed to respond. Ifil failed to do this but then I am not surprised. That woman who defended the war reminded me of a little bully. She made no sense whatsoever and kept casting her eyes at the other woman as if she was ready for a fight. She came across as most unlikeable. To her credit, her opponent remained calm and dignified and got her point across very well.

[goclark]

7. Gwen Ifill is one of Condi's best friends -----

I wonder where she got that evil guests, huuuum?

[Tomee450]

10. Yes ,I had heard about

her friendship with Condi. I suspect Ifil leans republican. That's why I was not that surprised at her actions.

[Jim Warren]

13. got that right

this creature was a pug plant for sure

[YouthInAsia]

6. The other woman, the antiwar lady, looked like she wanted to punch

that little troll in the side of the head and knock her eyes silly. Did you see how that scary little woman would refer to the other woman as "those people" and instead of turning to LOOK at her (like a normal person) she would throw her eyes in her direction. This is what we're dealing with.

[Demit]

8. LOL! That's exactly how I felt watching her. She was so hostile.

The other woman was so dignified and quiet, while the little troll kept saying "these people..." with undisguised contempt. And when the dignified woman said that all the military families did have something in common, that they cared for their loved ones in harm's way, the little troglodyte just had to disagree, that they didn't have anything in common, because "these people" were endangering the soldiers who were still in Iraq. I wanted to shove her little piglet nose farther into her head. However, I was contented with how stupid and mean-spirited she showed herself to be.

[Prince of Peace]

17. This just cracks me up

"The other woman was so dignified and quiet, while the little troll kept saying "these people..." with undisguised contempt. And when the dignified woman said that all the military families did have something in common, that they cared for their loved ones in harm's way, the little troglodyte just had to disagree, that they didn't have anything in common, because "these people" were endangering the soldiers who were still in Iraq. I wanted to shove her little piglet nose farther into her head. However, I was contented with how stupid and mean-spirited she showed herself to be."


This just cracks me up. Maybe its just the hypocrisy of it all. The Pro-War woman's self-righteous indignance that others disagree with her unexplicable dogma: that peace & freedom are somehow spread through pre-emptive bombing & invasion; that lost lives are somehow vindicated by sending more to the same fate; that unjust invasions are somehow whitewashed clean by killing longer than the invaded; that keeping freedom alive here at home somehow endangers our uniformed, volunteer warriors who entered a foreign country, live weapons in hand. Doesn't it dawn on her that they put themselves in harm's way when they volunteered themselves and entered a foreign country with loaded guns? The Pro-War (shrill minority) crowd might as well go ahead and chant to signs that read,

"GIVE THEM LIBERTY OR GIVE THEM DEATH!"
and
"DEMOCRACY OR DIE!"

Doesn't it dawn on them that their, "Democracy by the Sword!" mentality is little different than the "Islam by the Sword!" ideology they profess to ward against? What happened to "The Pen is Mightier than the Sword" methodology America's Founders espoused?


Then, entertaining for similar reason, comes the above cited peacenik's demonizing remarks, relishing the thought of personally engaging the war-filled woman with hands-on violence: "I wanted to shove her little piglet nose farther into her head. However, I was contented with how stupid and mean-spirited she showed herself to be."

Isn't it ironic how we can find ourselves unwittingly emulating the very people we abhor?

(I found myself speaking with a southern drawl after many years of making fun of my neighbors... My mockery turned out to be practice!)

Romans 2:1
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
NIV

Maybe our indignation is better focused against the abhorrent behaviors themselves rather than the people who succumb to them.

[erinlough]

22. You realize of course that your Romans quote could be

used as a response to your own thread.

[Demit]

24. Welcome to DU

We're all looking forward to your deconstruction of offhand metaphorical remarks.

[newyawker99]

27. Hi Prince of Peace!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Karenina]

30. The accompanying graphic...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. The academic really slammed her on polls and gave an opening to our side.

[Jim Warren]

12. skin too tight

My son, 16, says of people like her, they got skin too tight, as in they don't seem to have enough skin covering themselves. I think he kinda got the idea from from the alien impersonator cockroach in men in black.

[wurzel]

15. Called herself a "Vietnam Era Vet"! Was she actually ever in Vietnam?

[Algorem]

16. some b. yotch named Carol Phillips,"Vietnam veteran"

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iraq/index.html

September 26, 2005, 5:20pm EDT
Iraq War Activists Converge on D.C.
Over the weekend, people for and against the Iraq war came to Washington, D.C. to try to boost their cause. Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a slain soldier in Iraq whose vigils at President Bush's Texas ranch drew national attention, was arrested Monday in front of the White House.

Tonight on the NewsHour: Nancy Lessin, co-founder of Military Families Speak Out; Vietnam veteran Carol Phillips; and author and professor Alexander Bloom discuss the war and the call by some to pull American troops out now.

[Ilsa]

20. Thanks, I looked for that on the website, but it wasn't available

on my link with Houston PBS.

[RepublicanElephant]

21. notice the pro-war woman's son was still alive...

....she doesn't even qualify to be a gold-star mom.

and certainly didn't have the moral high ground.


and remember gwen's unbalanced performance at last year's prez debates?






...and don adams has passed away.

[Nikki Stone 1]

23. I was glad you asked about this piece of work. She basically said that

the Gold Star families working for the peace movement were going to get her son killed in Iraq.

Charming critter.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. So they were recycling the SAME cannards from the 1960s?

WOW, there it is our womderful Liberal Media...

:sarcasm:

[AussieDave]

26. And Carol Phillips had no answer to the fact this war started on a lie

she totally skirted around the issue and kept right on the Republican "talking points" - especially that if you criticize the pResident you're helping Al Qaeda and putting "the troops in harm's way" (Bush's favorite phrase).

[never cry wolf]

29. Video here

If anyone's interested:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/airdates.html?title_id=MLNH&display_format=ep_description&display_feed=548&display_date=2005-09-27&display_time=18:00&feeds=&station=WTTW&zipcode=60004&transport=&provider=&channelsuppress=f#