AL GORE / THE COMEBACK KID IN 2008

[peabody71]

AL GORE / THE COMEBACK KID IN 2008

A top Democratic strategist told Orin: "Americans love comebacks. "He could come back as the new Nixon – somebody who went into the wilderness and found himself."

Get ready, the one major Democrat who actually beat George W Bush in 2000, who voted against the war in Iraq and who is a strong environmentalist capable of solidifying the fragmented Democratic party is~ drum roll please ~Al Gore.

Gore rightfully has the fire in his belly and he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by coming out against the Cheney/Bush administration now ~ with both guns blazing .

58% of Americans have lost faith and trust in the Cheney/Bush administration ~ Bush and the Republicans are more than vulnerable. Gore has the name recognition and credibility to motivate the Democratic party to a decisive victory in the 2006 mid term elections and then on to victory in 2008.

Expect a major speech at a DNC fundraiser within a week in which he will take off the gloves ( ala George Galloway ) and give the growing anti-war movement a champion they can believe in ~ much to the chagrin of the Clintons.

Hillary and Bill had their moment and thank God ~ it has past.

It's time, Gore knows it ~ Gore will seize that moment and not a moment to soon.

Allen L Roland



GORE REPORTED READY TO TAKE ON CLINTON

NEWSMAX - Al Gore is poised to make a comeback and could pose a serious challenge to Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Democratic presidential race.

That’s the surprising news from "Inside Washington" columnist Deborah Orin of the New York Post, who writes that the former vice president "is suddenly re-emerging as a vocal and visible Bush-basher." A Democratic insider told Orin that Gore – who is slated to star at a Democratic National Committee fund-raiser next week – is "keeping a very strong public profile. He was the first major Democrat to oppose the Iraq war.

He’s keeping in touch around the country and doing a lot of speeches.

You don’t do all that if your goal is to play celebrity golf.

Why should Hillary worry? Iraq is the hot-button issue for the staunchly left-wing Democrats who have a major impact on the presidential primaries, and while Gore was loudly anti-war from the start, Clinton voted for the war. Orin writes: "It’s one thing for Clinton to contemplate a 2008 anti-war foe like little-known Sen. Russ Feingold (Wis.). It’s quite another to face the MoveOn darling who won the popular vote against George W. Bush."

A top Democratic strategist told Orin: "Americans love comebacks. "He could come back as the new Nixon – somebody who went into the wilderness and found himself."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/22/125909.shtml?et=y


The Review also reported tensions between Gore and Clinton going back as far as 1996. Of course, if Gore had distanced himself from Clinton early enough, he could have overcome the Clinton handicap and might have been president today.]


Allen Roland’s weblog: http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/
Website: www.allenroland.com
ONLY THE TRUTH IS REVOLUTIONARY

[jzodda]

1. I'll believe it when I see it

Gore is supposedly having a blast being out of politics for the most part from everything I have read. I would support him in a heartbeat, and over clinton or kerry or anybody else they put up but I kind of doubt he wants to run as of now. I would love your article to become true though.

[peabody71]

7. Quite possible he feels some sort of responsibility.

We are in desperate need of a true leader.
I welcome a man of honor.

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Same here

This is only 2005 for cryin out loud! Only one democrat for sure has said they were running in 2008 and that was Joe Biden on the Daily Show last time he was on. I think it's smart to concentrate on 2006. Why worry about 2008 before hand?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

69. Iow, a Dem has yet to announce. nt

[David Dunham]

2. Go Al Go! Gore in 2008!

[David Dunham]

3. Go Al Go! Gore in 2008!

[sniffa]

4. he voted against the war in iraq?

didn't know an unempLoyed officiaL couLd stiLL vote.

[drummo]

24. Unemployed official?

Gore is neither unemployed nor official.

[alittlelark]

64. LOL

not.

[BlueJac]

5. Gore em'

[lildreamer316]

42. GREAT slogan!

Keep that one in mind; we may be able to use it.

[w13rd0]

6. It would prove an interesting dynamic...

....Gore could even score points going up against Clinton in the primaries. Given a choice between Hillary and Al, I choose Al, hands down, no hesitation.

[cynatnite]

10. I am hoping to see him in '08, too

I like Hillary, but I do not want her to run in '08. If she went as his running mate and VP, that I could do.

Gore would get my complete support all the way!

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Same here

I like Hillary too but she's too republican. We need someone who is a hard-core progressive in 2008 who will clean up all the mess Bush has done.

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. I find it exciting! *IF* he can maintain the level of discourse

that he's had the last couple of years, with forceful speaking, truth speaking, and as dynamic as he has been.

If we could have a president Gore who acts like the Gore we have today, I'd choose him over anyone else. THAT would be a fucking great president.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. I think he would

Go to cspan.org and watch his speeches from 2003 and up. He's a totally different guy in the public then he was before. I think he has probably been paying attention to everything and I think now that Dean is the party chairman we will have a lot better convention and campaign as well and I'm sure Gore has learned the mistakes of his 2000 campaign (even though he did win) and from Kerry (even though he won too). There was still some sloppyness but that's why you take note and learn. :)

[KG]

9. when did gore vote against the war in iraq?

[peabody71]

11. that was a wrong statement.

He wasn't in a position to make any votes.
He was very vocal against it though.

[wisteria]

12. Surely, people won't just vote for him because of his position

on the war. Al Gore was actually a moderate when he held office. And how many of us remember when his wife Tipper - with Gore's blessing- took on the music industry because of "lurid lyrics, and attempted to damping free expression and creative expression because it supposedly was influencing young Americans in negative ways.

[jaysunb]

13. Some people learn from their mistakes.

Quite often, others won't let them forget or live it down. :evilfrown:

[dalaigh lllama]

17. Ah, a moderate

Seems to me the moderate of six years ago is the radical leftist of today.

[FreedomAngel82]

33. It's a freakin sticker!

When I'm a parent someday and I'M buying my kids music I want to know what they are listening to. Eminem isn't proper for a five year old kid, don't you think? Just like with raitings on TV and the movies. I'm glad of her for doing that because parents deserve to know what their kids are listening to. Don't you want to know? Just because you slap a sticker on it doesn't mean anything. It's a sticker that you throw away once you open the disc! Duh! It's a pre-warning label for parents who buy their kids music. What about video games? Do you think they shouldn't have stickers on there too? Sorry hon but I'm with Tipper on this one as someone who wants to have kids someday. I don't want to pay $20 for a cd for a child where there is cursing and sex on it such as with rap music and artist's like Britney Spears.

[lildreamer316]

43. And besides

not to trivialize it, but it WILL be a good selling point to alot of on-the-fence RWingers/conservatives."Look! They care about the children!"(I have a 1 1/2yr old boy).

[MikeNY]

57. Sticker is not the problem

It's whose putting that sticker on it. And Uncle Sam shouldn't be it... but thats another debate all together.

[KoKo]

14. I don't trust Deborah Orrin or NewsMax. Is this a planted story from Rove

just to stir up trouble for Democrats?

[lancdem]

18. Yes

You're right to be highly skeptical.

(This is directed at the poster. BTW, how exactly has Hillary had her moment in the sun? When did she run for president? Gore already has twice - in 1988 and 2000.)

[lildreamer316]

44. Gloating about Hillary not getting the nom

I don't think THEY believe Gore is a serious threat. Their mistake....

[drummo]

53. I think Hillary thinks Gore will not run.

But you can be sure, if Gore announced he will run Hillary would be :scared:

[Clark2008]

74. Yeah, Orin is a shill

I love Al, but I don't trust this stupid bitch's reporting.

She lied all over the place during the 2004 Dem primaries.

[drummo]

80. Same here.

This is just speculation disguised as reporting.
The standard of current political journalism.

[UDenver20]

15. Anyone dumb enough ...

TO VOTE FOR GORE DESERVES TO CONTINUE TO LOSE.....

[cynatnite]

16. Why? n/t

[peabody71]

19. An uninformed statement.

Gore has been stirring things up with the help of Move On for awhile now.
I see a new man emeging who's not going to take any crap or tiptoe around.
You deserve it to yourself to get ahold of a transcript or something and inform yourself about where Gore's at now.
Oh yeah don't let the media frame your opinion like the smear campaigns of the 2000 race.
It's a new day.

[saltpoint]

21. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer a competent public servant

like Al Gore over a shitbrained oil-puppet like Bush.

Gore won the first time. Ain't nothin' dumb about it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

72. Gore didn't lose. Now who's dumb?

:eyes:

[saltpoint]

20. Speaking as a 2000 Bradley delegate...

...it wouldn't piss me off one bit to see Al in the White House. He rightfully won over Dubya in 2000 and is eminently qualified for the job.

I like the idea of U.S. foreign policy run by competent people likely to comprise a Gore administration as opposed to the incompetent assholes currently in charge.

If Al winds up as our nominee, the man has my vote.

[gulfcoastliberal]

22. Yes! The comeback kid a la Nixon.

Go Gore! Draft Gore for his 3rd (ok, maybe 2nd) term!

[milkyway]

23. I'm down with Gore/Clark '08. Two people who know how to think long-term,

and how to get things done. And they'll have the support of a Dem Senate and Dem House!

[drummo]

26. An Tennessee/Arkansas ticket

Gore would lose TN but Arkansas is not that fundy, it may vote for Clark even if he is pro-choice and what not.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. You never know with Tennessee though

We currently have a democratic governor who, I think, is a moderate and NOT in the DLC (thank goodness!). So if we have a democratic governor (who was twice mayor of Nashville) I think there could be a good chance for the now Gore in 2008 if he decides to run to win his state. Did he campaign much in 2000 here? Sorry, I was busy in high school then and didn't follow anything around. If I was able to vote then though I would've him.

[Autonomy]

46. No, he did not campaign much in Tennessee

Which is why a lot of people bashed him for losing his home state in the election.

[drummo]

81. I think he shouldn't have spent a single minute in Tennessee in 2000

It was a waste of time, energy and money since TN was a lost state from the beginning. It's a very retro place -- the Gores no longer go to church over there because it has been taken over by the fundies.
Horrible.

To hell with TN! Disloyal, dishonest, nationalist, coward fundy state.

(Of course I don't mean everyone in Tennessee is horrible just the majority.)

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

62. he can get WV, too

he would have in 2000, but he took it for granted as a dem stronghold

chimpy on the other hand, visited at least 6 times before al arrived. when a state dopesn't get a lot of attention, as is the case with WV, it makes an impression on the voters when one of two candidates starts courting it. unfortunately, it was the GOP who figured it out in 2000-but gore came close and really started closing in on on bush when he finally made it here

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Question from me

How did Gore vote against the war? He wasn't in the House or Senate....

[drummo]

29. He didn't vote against it, of course.

It was a mistake made by the poster.

Gore said he wouldn't have voted for that resolution.

[spindoctor]

28. FCOL Just STOP it!

Gore, Jackson, Clinton...is that all we can think about? Is that really the best we can bring?

Anybody who runs against Bush and does not get at least a 10% margin is done, over, out of the game.
Do we remember Gore? I don't mean in the sense of the 2000 election martyr, but as a politician with a speech delivery that is worse than Jeb Bush?
Do we remember that we had to use a fine tooth comb to find the differences between Al Gore and George W Bush?

[FreedomAngel82]

36. Watch his now speeches

There is a huge difference between the two. If you don't see it, then sorry but you're blind! Go to cspan.org and type in his name and look for the more recent speeches he made about Iraq and other issues.

[peabody71]

48. It truelly is a new day and a different world.

AL GORE IS WHO I SUPPORT FOR PRES!

[johnaries]

32. Whether you Love Al or hate him, you should read this story.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/7/164747/4155

Read this, and email it to everyone you know. Then, decide if you think he should be President or not.

[Senator]

35. Gore Must Come Clean First

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4880327&mesg_id=4886943

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4880327&mesg_id=4891807

You can't lead by denying the reality that you failed to lead in the past.

--

[alittlelark]

37. OOOKAY.... do you have anything more reputable than NEWSMAX?

The Salon story is a blog... and I don't know who allenroland is - but I now know he's into 'unified fields'.


I HOPE Gore enters the race.... but this reeks. I'd like to see Gore accept or refute this .

[AlGore-08.com]

38. Nobody (with any brains) who's planning a run would admit it this early

The best that you would get from anybody (with any brains) this far out is a statement that doesn't rule out a run.

[Spurt]

39. He won't win...

...nor will any other Dem if Diebold count the votes.

President is selected, not elected.

Spurt

[drummo]

55. That's true. And I think Diebold is the reason why Gore will

not even try. Why should he? Even if he wins he will "lose".
USA is no longer a democracy.

[AntiFascist]

40. The next president needs to ....

stress our independence from Middle Eastern oil and, for the future, our independence from oil altogether. If Gore will run with that as his highest priority then he has my vote and support.

[peabody71]

49. That's what he's always stood for.

And noone was ready to hear it I might add.
This is the type of insight we need in our next Pres.

[opihimoimoi]

41. What has he learned in the last 5 years to enhance his odds??

Did he bone up on Leadership skills?

Did he keep up with FOREIGN AFFAIRS?

Hire a new Speech Coach? Writer? Researcher?

What has he done in terms of becoming a BIG THINKER? The SOLVER?

Where is his Plan, his book, on America and what She can be...and when... and how...? Where is his VISION...we want to know...

cause if convinces us...he will win....

America is searching for a reality based solution to the Bush mess.

Gore must step up to bat...and if he doesn't, or falls short, then someone else will come forward ...

America needs a SHINE, we want to look good

The Tarnish BushCo has reaped/revealed can be removed...one vote at a time....

[Admiral Loinpresser]

50. The gospel of Gore...

There is another side to this moral challenge. Where there is vision, the people prosper and flourish, and the natural world recovers, and our communities recover. The good news is we know what to do. The good news is, we have everything we need now to respond to the challenge of global warming. We have all the technologies we need, more are being developed, and as they become available and become more affordable when produced in scale, they will make it easier to respond. But we should not wait, we cannot wait, we must not wait, we have every thing we need - save perhaps political will. And in our democracy, political will is a renewable resource.

http://algore-08.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=289&Itemid=84

[opihimoimoi]

65. Well, Gore better get a Team that can CRANK it UP like NOW

and be effective to counter the Pub Tripe...

[malaise]

51. He is the best candidate in the race

Despite his unwillingness to fight in 2000.

[opihimoimoi]

67. The Best can Lose to the LIE CHEAT STEAL Mode...as we witnessed

Gore must overcome the shit the Pubs heaped on him...He had 5 years to prepare...what are the results? Can he attract the TEAM to Overcome the Perception of awkwardness as confirmed by the 5 minute kiss...?

[AlGore-08.com]

56. "What has he done in terms of becoming a BIG THINKER?"

Gore's always been the "big thinker". Read "Earth In The Balance" or his recent speeches to get a taste:

http://www.algore.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=6&id=71&Itemid=84

And to answer this:

Where is his Plan, his book, on America and what She can be...and when... and how...? Where is his VISION...we want to know...


I was at a taping last week of his documentary on global warming. Your answer is coming.

[opihimoimoi]

68. Most of us who delve into the subject of GW/Evirons/Poli Sci

are aware of the Status and foreboding consequences....I am hoping for the SOLUTIONs needed for Humanity to avoid a premature extinction.

Where is the EXTINCTION PREVENTION DEPT?

Carl Sagan was worried for us...for good reason....If he was alive...he would be pissed that we not only didn't LISTEN to COSMOS,
we are continuing to make it GW WORSE

Come, we go drink....

[kentuck]

45. Don't compare him to fucking Nixon!

Bad comparison. "new Nixon"? No way.

[On the Road]

47. Al's My First Choice

If he wants me, I'm there.

And growing dissatifaction with Bush should result in a second look at Bush's opposing candidate.

[DefenseLawyer]

52. I want to see who he puts on his exploratory team

If it is Donna Brazil, Bob "0 for 9" Shrum and the same old cast of hacks, the I will know he is really the same old cautious, measured calculating Al Gore. But if he has really been to the mountaintop, if he really tells the clueless handlers to walk and comes out swinging, I'm ready to go into battle with him.

[stlsaxman]

54. Me thinks this Allen L Roland guys been asleep for a few years now...

"Expect a major speech... within a week in which he will take off the gloves..."

Gore has been giving "major speeches" two or three times a year for the LAST FIVE YEARS!

Where have you been, Mr. Roland?

[MikeNY]

58. Gore/Kerry ticket would win the election n/t

[gorekerrydreamticket]

78. Agree...more electable than Clinton/Obama...n/t

[raysr]

59. That would the

best thing I've heard in 6 years. Go Al!!

[tom_paine]

60. If Al FIGHTS and STANDS UP to the LIES, then I am with him

100%!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

61. i voted for nader in 2000, but i'd be psyched for an al run in '08

i think he really did find himself in the years offstage. losing in the way he did (theft) really clued him in to the sham of the coporate system and he's been going steadily left ever since. hopefully, he'll take on globalization and out-sourcing and he'll have redeemed himself for all of the bad traits he inherited from clinton the yuppie

and for the last time, he's not wooden. the man can be fuckin' hilarious when he wants to be.

[drummo]

83. I actually prefer the wooden version.

What's your problem with wooden people? I don't get it.

[LittleClarkie]

63. Like having a used car salesman trying to sell you a car

three years before you actually need the thing.

Oye.

[Junkdrawer]

66. I'd work for Al...

he's the strongest voice for the issues I'm concerned about...

:thumbsup:

[Q]

70. Gore can count on my support and vote...

...if he chooses to run for president in 2008.

But frankly...the way the party bigwigs (and the DLC) has treated him...I wouldn't blame him if he didn't run.

[GOPAgainstGW]

71. Never Happen - Gore Can't Get DNC Nomination. Old News - eom

[drummo]

84. Older than Hillary?

Actually Hillary is older than Gore.

[Clark2008]

73. Excuse me, but when COULD Al have voted against the

war in Iraq?

He wasn't in the Senate in 2002 and, when he WAS in the Senate in 1992, he voted in favor of the first Iraqi war.

What is this person talking about?

[Clark2008]

75. Something just occurred to me...

This is NewsMaxx - not known for reliable reporting.

I'm thinking that their little ploy to foist Hillary on the Democrats has backfired (if you read any Dem blog, there are less than a handful who like her), so now, they're starting the horserace bullshit of pushing Al Gore, thinking they can play some of his most feroucious speeches to the swing voters and pushing HIM as some sort of "wild-eyed looney."

As a Tennessean, I adore Al Gore. He was my first political crush. I also know that the truth is that he's fairly moderate (not DLC corporate moderate, mind you - but I separate moderate Dem voters from DLC shills). His biggest "liberal" issue is the environment, but MOST people want to protect the environment, so that's not a huge issue to turn swing voters against him.

However, I do know how the Reich-wing media splices a tape to make it look like someone is a flaming weirdo (Dean scream, anyone?) and watch for them to start up with the ranting Gore speeches.

We didn't want Hillary - so reads the Reich-wing media - so how's about we take your hero, Al, and turn him into a caricature again?

Does this make sense?

[Triana]

76. Hillary isn't staunchly Left...

...neither was Bill. I wish they'd stop trying to paint them as such. It's not the case. That's probably why the tension between Gore and Clinton. Gore is further Left than the Clintons are. Quite a bit more.

Of course, that's part of the propaganda though, so they'll still keep the 'staunch Liberal' label on the Clintons.

[Clark2008]

77. Gore isnt't really further left.

I don't think it's necessarily "liberal" to think that the Iraqi War was a bad idea - I know paelo-conservatives who do.

I also don't think Gore's very leftist on any issue, save the environment, and polls show most Americans ARE left on that issue. No one wants to die or be harmed by a polluted environment (unless you're the rich polluter who can move away from your pollution).

[drummo]

82. Agree.

It think it's silly to say that Gore somehow shifted to the left just because he opposed the Iraq war and can't stand Bush. On every issue he has held the same position since 2000 as he held in 2000.

[derby378]

79. I don't know...

I mean, Gore couldn't even take his home state of Tennessee back in 2000. If he could, then Florida wouldn't have mattered, and we probably wouldn't even be in Iraq right now.

He's got some great ideas, but his salesmanship leaves something to be desired. If he thinks he's got a chance at 2008, he'll have to start working on it.