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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:58 AM
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torture pictures. i havent heard the latest. wasnt aug 27th
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 11:58 AM by seabeyond
the handing over or court battle. does anyone know where we are on this. katrina came at that time, and it totally knocked it off my map
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:03 PM
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1. Last I heard, the judge is leaning towards NOT releasing them.
I guess he bought the government's contention that they are too inflammatory.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:07 PM
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2. Inflamatory = Guilty of Torture
If the pictures are that horrific, then they are in all probability evidence of contravention of the Geneva Accords.

All the more reason to release them, just release them slightly redacted to protect the identities of the tortured.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:41 PM
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3. I have been tracking this pretty closely over the last month and...
...the last news release was on or about August 31st when judge Hllerstein talked about being reluctant to release the pictures. There are a few threads where this has been posted- most notably one I wrote titled "What the hell is judge Hellerstein doing?" (search for Hellerstein), but I can't bring it up on an advanced search because its disabled currently.

However, there has been nothing out of Hellerstein's office since. I contacted his clerk via telephone and she gave me the impression that she couldn't end the call fast enough for her tastes- I'm probably not the only one more than curious about this matter. No information at all was gleaned from the call to his clerk, btw.

Interestingly, though, the day that the government rested it's arguments last month is the day that Hellerstein posted new rules for himself (judges each have different ways of doing things and usually post those rules outside the courtroom)- they appeared to greatly reduce the government's abilities to try to classify material as secret willy-nilly.

All these things are documented more thoroughly in the threads I posted. Search for Hellerstein when advanced search comes back and you'll find them.

PB
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:11 PM
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4. appreciate it poll blind
they havent left it in air like this in the past. it was always extended to another date. this time looks like they are just leaving it all together. guess we have to see what aclu? is going to do

thanks for the info
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