"Brownie" hearing official thread #5

[ncrainbowgrrl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4901013&mesg_id=4901013

[Catchawave]

1. Just noticed it's back on !

I thought they took a lunch break ?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

3. on cspan or cbs? (n/t)

[Pirate Smile]

4. C-span

[Catchawave]

5. C-Span nt

[ncrainbowgrrl]

7. Thanks!!

:woohoo:

[lpbk2713]

8. All some of em had for lunch was a brownie and a glass of Kool-Aid.

:eyes:

[MissMarple]

71. Too funny! And probably more accurate than we want to know.

:crazy:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

2. kick.

:kick:

[VolcanoJen]

6. Woot!!! I'm poppin' popcorn for y'all!

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[rocktivity]

117. And I'll supply something to wash it down with, Volcano

:beer::beer::beer:

rocknation

[Pithy Cherub]

9. Was this the best that Brownie could be prepped....

His lawyer and former inept bosses should be hugely embarrassed. But hey, Loving the fact that this is on the record! :popcorn:

[Alizaryn]

10. Laure PackYourBags has a good point in this post

if you haven't seen it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4901436&mesg_id=4901436

[demo dutch]

11. I emailed NBC, CNN and NPR on that with link

[bee]

12. Kay Granger (R) "I dont know how you sleep at night...

you failed". :wow: anyone else hear that?!

[spuddonna]

14. Good for her! She's right... n/t

[blogslut]

110. She said that?

Maybe there's hope for Texas after all.

[bee]

140. it blew my mind...

The whole statement was...

youve been quoted as saying you sleep well knowing you handled this disaster.... but I dont know how you sleep at night. You failed.

total burn! :nuke: And from a Texas (R) no less!

[demo dutch]

13. What pisses me off is they let him get away with lies no corrections

They don't even have their facts straights.

[Pirate Smile]

15. I don't think I can take much more of this bull sh@t!

I can feel the tension in my shoulders. :mad:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. I know PS, It is desparately frustrating. I equate it to being held

in a jail in a southern town movie. You are innocent and no one believes you.

[demo dutch]

16. He's giving advise on how to run Fema ??? what a joke!

[Sydnie]

17. Good god, he has no shame at all

It shouldn't take two full days to realize something is not working.

[Skidmore]

18. Pickering (R-MI) asking about if local and state were not

told how to contact FEMA.

[demo dutch]

19. Such nonsense!

[TahitiNut]

58. That's "Pickering (R-MS)"

MI - Michigan
MS - Mississippi
MO - Missouri
MT - Montana

[mikelgb]

20. what is with all the repugs and no dems? anybody? n/t

[Oreo]

21. Pelosi didn't want to give this any legitimacy

She wants an independent commission
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050927/pl_nm/hurricanes_commission_dc_2;_ylt=Au3r8iniiehD9UFa4l41O8NH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--

[demo dutch]

24. Still think some should have gone, to set the lies straight

[Oreo]

22. Why is Tenet there?

Is he going to give Brownie his Medal of Freedom?

[Sydnie]

23. Is that the guy to Brownie's right .. behind his shoulder?

I have been wondering who that was. His faces have been priceless.

[SillyGoose]

29. That's not Tenet....here's a pic of Tenet

[Skidmore]

25. Probably tasked with coaching the little creep or

lose his medal.

[VolcanoJen]

28. The guy over his right shoulder isn't Tenet.

He's wearing an unfortunate tie, but he's not Tenet.

Was he spotted somewhere else?

[VolcanoJen]

26. Are any of these lackeys going to ask Drownie why...

... he didn't know, as late as Thursday, that people were stranded at the Convention Center?

Yeh, I didn't think so.

[demo dutch]

30. They already did earlier, he said he meant to say that he knew

about it 24 hrs before (wednesday) but was tired at the time. What a lier!

[VolcanoJen]

32. Well, that's definitely perjury.

They need to play the Paula Zahn and Ted Koppel interviews.

[cami715]

34. He was asked that and

his reply was that he had "misspoken" when he said he knew nothing of them until Thursday. He said he knew Wednesday.
To me, that makes it worse. That was another full day of inaction.

He also stated that he told Bush on SATURDAY that this was going to be a big disaster and that he needed help. Yet Bush did nothing until the following Thursday - except bike, play the guitar, eat birthday cake, party, go to a fundraiser, etc. As far as I am concerned, the buck stops with Bush.

[Sydnie]

31. He wanted them to service the shelters like they do 7-11's?

He obviously has no clue how food distribution really works in this country.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

39. They must be getting ready for a break. They are letting

Mikey drop back and blame the New Orleans' Mayor and the Governor of Louisiana has fault again. Always good to end on a lie.

The questions are getting really "softbally" and Mikey must be feeling so much better. He'll still need to make a bathroom break to change his undies first chance he gets.

C-Span has now decided to break away again. Probably just as well, nothing to see, move along. See, aren't the repugs doing an excellent job of policing their lackey? :sarcasm:

[demo dutch]

33. Here we go again, start to blame the locals!!!

[rocktivity]

35. Bad news, Skinner--the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet

will be billing you for some MAJOR overtime today!

:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
rocknation

[babylonsister]

36. Brown: "We were prepared but overwhelmed."

That's just not good enough!!! Is that what will be said by DHS/FEMA if a terrorist attack, with WMDs, should ever occur?

[goclark]

40. Drownie was overwhelmed and now over payed again

Just said on CNN...


Drownie paid @ $145,000 for another month by FEMA

[demo dutch]

37. Only streaming on Cspan Radio now

[Emit]

38. Link here for CSPAN radio

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?code=csr

[Marie26]

42. CBS still has the live video

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

44. Yes! I switched to CBS when C-Span1 pulled away. It's better video

too.

[Pirate Smile]

55. Do you have the link?

[The Witch]

41. OMG they have the Governor's request!

Who's this person and can we send him chocolate chip cookies?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. He's Rep. Jefferson from New Orleans. How about with macadamia

nuts too????

[The Witch]

45. One of ours?

If so he gets godiva chocolate.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. Yes, he is. Godiva..yummmmmm He's in trouble though. He

used search and rescue for his personal use (to check up on his house) and there has been a stink about it.

[The Witch]

47. HE'S GONNA PLAY THE CONFERENCE CALLS

:popcorn:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

48. Please pass some! This should be cool! Godiva and Popcorn! Heaven!

[The Witch]

50. I really hope other DUers haven't tuned out.

this could be our watergate moment

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

54. I just posted on the board that it can be viewed at CBSNEWS.COM

Hopefully those who stopped watching will be able to view it again.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. It won't cue up??? Seems like Congress' communications is as good

as it was in Louisiana......

[VolcanoJen]

51. Please keep us updated!!!! I don't have access to the streams!

:popcorn:

Details, we want details! :-)

[The Witch]

53. Brown: "people get stressed out."

That's his excuse. HONESTLY.

[VolcanoJen]

57. So, he essentially admitted he was wrong/lied about the governor's...

... request?

If it weren't for Rep. Jefferson, they would have gotten away with that bold-faced lie.

[The Witch]

63. cookies to this man's office NOW.

I have time after work. I have no problem with bringing them down if they'd let me into the capital :D

[VolcanoJen]

65. He's in the Rayburn Building.

Can you get in without an appointment?

They'll swab your cookies for chemicals, but I think it'll be ok.

:-)

[The Witch]

86. I'll buy 'em for him

hallelujah.

[Marie26]

56. OK....

Jefferson puts up quote from Brown in 2003 - FEMA can have generators & supplies "anywhere in country" in 24 hours.

They play conference call - Jeff. Parish officials complaining STILL NO generators after 11 days. Why couldn't deliver?

Brown - Disaster, unforseeable, people stressed out, whine, whine.

[VolcanoJen]

60. They played the conference calls that were on NPR the other day?

Oh, that's beautiful. :popcorn:

Did Drownie admit he "misspoke"?

Thanks, Marie!

[onenote]

128. they can get generators anywhere in the country, if

its not rainy, or snowing, or too sunny, or too hot, or too cold, or they don't have a cold, or a bad hair day, or they can't find a clean pair of socks, or the dog doesn't eat their homework blah blah blah.....

onenote

[WI_DEM]

52. Brownie is a moral coward just like Bush

Can't take responsibility for anything. Loves the blame game.

[Spazito]

59. Whoo Hooo! Blanco sent an e-mail and it is being read now!

Brownie just had his ass bared by the Gov, go Gov!

[Sydnie]

61. I missed it damn!

What did she say? Who did she email?

[Spazito]

69. She, or her office, sent an e-mail to Jefferson stating that at least

77% of the population were evacuated BEFORE the manditory evacuation order and that the people left were those who could NOT get out like tourists whose flights had been cancelled, those without vehicles, etc. The e-mail refutes everything that Brownie said.

Brownie's response was then to blame the Mayor, rofl, his head is spinning and the lies are coming so furious he can't remember which lie he spewed before so lies about the lie.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

68. Darn! My internet connection died for a couple of minutes and I missed it!

[political_invader]

62. whats the link for the cbs video?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

66. Go to cbsnews.com

There will be a link there to view this live

[demo dutch]

67. link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml

[SillyGoose]

72. Try this...cspan.org.......click on the cspan radio live stream at the

bottom of the page.

[Sydnie]

64. They never used the cruise ships - the bus association said they

got a call back and were told they weren't needed. They were directed to the "Applying to work with FEMA" web site.

Just who does this asshat think he's fooling here?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

73. I just read somewhere that cruise ships are now being used for workers.

Probably Halliburton living it up.

[demo dutch]

75. YEAH love that comment, realizing why you're removed from that job!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

80. That was great! He is being so more aggressive now than he was

during the first round.

[The Witch]

70. Brownie snapped

"It's not the federal government's responsibility to give you ice!"

[Marie26]

76. "we're not in the ice business!"

[VolcanoJen]

78. Taylor's kickin' his ASS!!! "That's why you weren't qualified for the job

Taylor: "What else can you use ice for?"

Drownie: "Baby formula, keeping medicines fresh. But not hamburgers."

Taylor: "How about using ice to keep corpses from rotting?"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

88. This is Rep. Jefferson from New Orleans. nt

[VolcanoJen]

74. Drownie: It is not the Federal Govt's responsibility to provide ICE...

... just so you can keep your hamburgers cold.

Oh, yes, he did just say that.

[doublethink]

77. Did you catch tha last part of that statement ........?

he said Beer and Diet coke !!!!!! What an ass !!!!!!!!

[demo dutch]

81. Totally clueless!!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

85. There was a call-in trucker to Coast To Coast AM the week before last

who had a truckload of ice and he was waiting for a few days to get into NOLA and he was turned away, along with other trucks filled with provisions.

[demo dutch]

91. That was the order of the day pretty much!

[Marie26]

83. Taylor's response

No, we needed the ice to keep bodies from rotting.

[The Witch]

89. Wait, which congressman is this?

(I only have radio. I need to find the right office to send the cookies to!)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

92. Jefferson unless Taylor chimed in? I have the video on my desktop

but it's behind the screen as I'm working here.

[Marie26]

96. Nope, it was Taylor

I have the streaming video. Rep. Gene Taylor took over w/the question "what would you use ice for?" & also "I can see why you were let go, etc." He was pretty pissed!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

101. And yeah! He's questioning now! nt

[The Witch]

79. OMG. Jefferson is DESTROYING him.

I really hope we can get the transcript of this. He quizzes him on what ice is used for-- to keep bodies from rotting, for people to stay alive. "You are a fine attorney, but you are WAY OVER your head."

[Marie26]

Well...

No, it was REPUBLICAN Rep. Taylor - hard to believe. Maybe they can both get cookies!

[Sydnie]

82. Have you never been camping you moran?

You can't cook it? Of course you can.

He was trying to "get out of the ice business"? Then why did FEMA order extra shipments of it and send it all over the country instead of where it was needed? The company that supplies it did a story on CNN the other day about how they produced MORE ice for FEMA not less.

[berner59]

90. This so damning of this administration....

wow... This whole ice talk has been a window into Brown's head - what a moran!!! Wish I heard Blanco's response...is that posted somewhere???

Fineman on Al Franken said this will blow up again and put the pressure back on bush...oh yeah!!!

[political_invader]

84. WOOOOO HOOOOO WTG MR.SMITH

Just say it Mr. Brown you suck. :applause: :woohoo: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[demo dutch]

87. What an asskisser!

[demo dutch]

93. Who's the guy in the yellow tie? behind Brownie

[The Witch]

94. Send your cookies to:

2311 Rayburn Building
Washington, DC 20515-2405
202-225-5772

[political_invader]

95. Will someone please ask him why he dosn't have any info.

what did he think he was testifing on somebody nuke this asshat

[demo dutch]

97. "I don't recall" A tactic, he's an attorney he will never get back

to them with the info

[demo dutch]

98. Pic.Times said violence was overstated!

[Zinfandel]

99. Republicans investigating themselves, As if they will ever say Bush did

anything wrong. EVEN if Bush told the republicans personally, he didn't really give a shit about the people and he wanted the democrats to get blamed...the republicans would still not say Bush was responsible or did anything wrong.

These hearing are only for stupid people, idiots, if your watching them count yourself as one of them!!!

[The Witch]

100. "How much are the citizens of this country paying you?"

Who's this guy? NINJA!! Is this Jefferson again?

[demo dutch]

102. This guy I think is Taylor

[The Witch]

104. HE GETS MY COOKIES.

Brownie is trying to evoke tears.

[VolcanoJen]

120. Rep. Taylor is kinda hot.

:-)

[Spazito]

103. It's now Taylor asking

prior to that it was Jefferson

[demo dutch]

107. Oh oh Brownie is getting mad!!!

[Pirate Smile]

108. Listen to how pissy he is - "Don't lecture me, Congressman" whooaaa!

[berner59]

111. Boy is he arrogant or what????

He's talking about knowing about death & destruction are and yelling at Taylor not to lecture him about death... oh really Brownie??? Tell that to the poor people who died WAITING for FEMA's help you asshole!!!!!

[demo dutch]

127. Arrogance is putting it nicely, he thinks he's GOD!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

105. No! It's Taylor of Mississippi. Good looking except it looks like his hair

has been cultivated like lettuce.

[Marie26]

109. Woo! Taylor is my new hero

"Maybe if you came down for more than a photo-op, you would understand how overwhelmed we were"
"the nation let us done"
"meeting Wal-Mart shouldn't be first response"
"no lame assurances - help is on the way."
"what assurance this won't happen again?"

Brown - "DON'T LECTURE ME!"

[demo dutch]

114. It's his state MS

[Marie26]

118. Good questions

He's really exposing Brown's arrogance & stupidity.
"If state & local are dead, who responds?"
Brown - Sept. 11 firefighters come from everywhere, (Not FEMA, god forbid)
"Do you know the name of head of National Guard?"
Of course not

[demo dutch]

Brownie thinks he's GOD that's the problem!

[Pirate Smile]

121. It was looting Walmart shouldn't be the first response. The first

responders in Mississippi also had to loot for everything - food, water, clothes, etc.

Whaaatt?? But I thought the problem was just LA, Blanco and Naggin.

I can't believe what a dumbass this guy is!

[VolcanoJen]

116. According to CNN, he's being paid $145,600.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4902578

CNN just brought this up again as they went to the live feed.

Chair: "Are you currently on the federal payroll?"

Drownie: "I don't know... I assume I'm a federal employee, yes."

He seriously looks like he's going to cry.

[sabra]

106. Brownie: "Don't lecture me" to Rep Taylor

it's crying time

[merbex]

126. When you tell a Congressman "Don't lecture me" you are basically

saying TO HIS CONSTITUENTS shut up,I don't want to hear you

Brownie is symptomatic on what is wrong with the Repug Party

They are flipping all of us the bird

Big time, as Cheney would say

[The Witch]

112. Ok as though I needed more reason to like this Taylor lad

http://www.house.gov/genetaylor/index.shtm

The very first thing on his Web site is:
"FEMA HIRING TEMPORARY WORKERS: click here for job listings."

A true public servant!

[Spazito]

113. Man, asshole doesn't come close to describing 'Brownie'!

He doesn't even have even the basic understanding that, no matter what, you DO NOT lecture congressmen, especially someone of his lack of character!

[demo dutch]

115. He's getting mad!!! it's almost funny watching him backtrack!

[political_invader]

119. Im going to need a COLD shower after this ROFLMAO

[demo dutch]

123. Taylor is killing him!

[berner59]

131. Between his grilling and his looks...

Cold shower is certainly in order...

Wow - he was GREAT...maybe a cigarette is needed too...

[Marie26]

133. Oh My God

Taylor: After Texas, seeing people w/o gas, stalled on highways, have you rethought your position that FEMA should not supply fuel?

Brown: No. We shouldn't be giving gas to every man, woman, & child. It's not FEMA's responsibility. (Bleck)

Taylor: FEMA shouldn't help give gas so that people are able to evacuate from a disaster?!

[VolcanoJen]

124. This hearing is gonna backfire big-time on BushCo.

Go, Taylor, Go!!!

I swear, Drownie's about to cry.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

130. He's backtracking on what he told reporters about the WH. nt

[Spazito]

135. The way he's going, by the time he testifies in front of the Senate

and, hopefully, before an INDEPENDENT inquiry, he will have to spend four hours saying "I misspoke at the House hearing, I missspoke in front of the media, I misspoke ,,,".

[VolcanoJen]

He'll probably say he was "tired."

Here ya go, Brownie:

[Spazito]

122. He had to have been one pathetic lawyer, he doesn't seem to

understand lying under oath is a felony offence. I would hate to have that man as my lawyer, I would be guaranteed to lose!

[demo dutch]

125. The arrogance is beyond belief!

[maxrandb]

132. Just a Stupid Question

but can you actually be prosecuted for lying to Congress? I've heard that you can't because it's not a court of law, and that any oath you take is about as worthless as this pricks resume.

Anyway, just thought I'd ask.

[onenote]

144. most hearing witnesses are not sworn in

Didn't see the beginning of the hearing, so I don't know if Brownie is testifying under oath. In theory, lying to Congress is a crime, whether you are under oath or not. Its just that it is considered to be a more difficult case to bring where the witness isn't sworn in.

onenote

[Spazito]

169. He was reminded by one of the Congressmen that he WAS under

oath earlier so he was sworn in.

[Spazito]

166. Yes, it is under the US Code Title 18,

§ 1001. Statements or entries generally


Release date: 2005-08-03

(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001001----000-.html

[VolcanoJen]

129. DAMN!!! Taylor went through a laundry list of Drownie's statements...

... in particular, he said, "So, you feel that even if you're 80 years old and incapacitated, you are responsible for your own food and water, even after two or three days."

Then, with disgust on his face, Rep. Taylor said, "Thank you. I think it's a good thing you came to this hearing. The American people needed to hear your true feelings on these matters."

[VolcanoJen]

134. Rep. Shays (R-CT) is up now... he gave him an ass-kicking in the earlier..

.. session!

[Marie26]

139. Shays smackdown

"This administration values loyalty more than the truth! You are an example of that..."

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

136. Goodie! Shays! He's uncomfortable that Brown is still on FEMA's payroll.

[demo dutch]

137. Surprised to hear statement about loyalty and the administration

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

143. A Republican Congressman from CT is less of a lapdog to * than one

of their Democratic Senators.

[political_invader]

DID I hear right $146,000 he is being pd?

[VolcanoJen]

146. I posted that here in GD...

... got that number from CNN.

I'm still trying to discover if that's his annual salary at FEMA, or if it's a seperate disbursement for his new "consulting" role.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

138. Shays...this administration values loyalty over the truth!!!! I love him!

[VolcanoJen]

142. And he's a REPUBLICAN!

The wheels are falling off, aren't they?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

145. Remember that during Watergate, Lowell Weicker was a Republican too. eom

[barbaraann]

141. Shays! I've come to the conclusion that this administration values

loyalty more than competence and truth!

paraphrased

wow!

[barbaraann]

147. They cut Shays off!

Jesus.

[Marie26]

150. Oh no

Did anyone else's video disappear? What happened?

[VolcanoJen]

148. CBS Feed just went down!! Anyone else?

Where else can we find this?

[VolcanoJen]

152. CNN's got it live now... for how long, I don't know.

You're in the Situation Room! :-)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

155. just listening now - cspan radio. frustrating. I can't hear the cbs

feed even with my volume maxed.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

149. Lost the feed for CBS!!!! nt

[demo dutch]

151. Cspan radio is the only one streaming

[Skidmore]

154. Time for a new thread

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

164. Here's the link

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR

[political_invader]

Shit I lost the feed just when Rep. Shays was asking Drownie

are you telling the truth? what was the question.??

[barbaraann]

157. We all lost the CBS feed.

n/t

[demo dutch]

161. Cspan radio link:

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

[Marie26]

167. I don't know

Mine went out right after he said Congress needs officials to be honest & tell them the truth - "Can you tell me the truth - " Cut. Frustrating.

[The Witch]

153. Pelosi has got to be eating crow now

This is the most explosive thing EVER.

And C-SPAN radio still has the hearing.

[onenote]

156. i've attended a lot of Congressional Hearings over the years

and I've seen witnesses get pounded, but never like this...and I've never seen one tell a member of Congress "don't lecture me"...

wow..Brownie really is a piece of work.

onenote

[Laura PourMeADrink]

162. OMG - "You were clueless that is why you got fired" Shays.

[barbaraann]

163. Didn't Howard Hughes pull something like that.

At least he did in the movie The Aviator.

[merbex]

165. Oh yes you are clueless Brownie

Shays is basically REINTERVIEWING HIM as if he was applying for the job

Shays said he was clueless

[merbex]

158. Shays is nailing him

[VolcanoJen]

159. Drownie to Shays: You should come over and sit in this chair.

OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!

Holy crap.

"You don't know how it feels to be yanked out of somewhere you were trying to help, while the media lied about your resume."

Shays: "No, you were yanked out because you were doing a lousy job! You were clueless!!"

[Skidmore]

160. New thread here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4903306

[xultar]

168. Mods please lock -x-

[goclark]

170. His name is Drownie!

[proud patriot]

171. thread 6 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4903306&mesg_id=4903306

I'm locking this one