Brownie hearing official thread #6

[Skidmore]

Sorry that thread was starting to kill my computer.

Thread #5 below

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4901675&mesg_id=4901675

[VolcanoJen]

1. Drownie to Rep. Shays: "You should come over and sit in this chair!"

OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!

Holy crap.

Drownie continues: "You don't know how it feels to be yanked out of somewhere you were trying to help, while the media lied about your resume."

Shays: "No, you were yanked out because you were doing a lousy job! You were clueless!!"

[Skidmore]

3. He's so clueless and arrogant.

[demo dutch]

6. He thinks he's god!

[goclark]

20. Drownie and Chimpie

Birds of a feather stick together.

[VolcanoJen]

23. Rep. Shays accused him of covering up for BushCo, too.

And that, coming from a Republican.

Hold on... monkeys are actually flying out of my ass right now!

[maxrandb]

66. He's a Mirror into the Soul of this mis-administration n/t

[Spazito]

73. Agree, he is the poster child for the bush admin

He has ALL the character flaws found in the bush cabal: liar, arrogance, belief in an alternate reality, lethal incompetence, total inability to take responsibility for their own actions.

[barbaraann]

4. Are you on c-span?

n/t

[VolcanoJen]

8. CNN now... for how long they'll carry it, I don't know.

You're in the Situation Room!

[demo dutch]

9. Yes link:

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

[blogslut]

11. CNN

is showing bits throughout that day, apparently. I hear CBS is play it as well. The whole country is watching. SWEEEEET!

[barbaraann]

15. Thanks everyone!

I've got it now. :-)

[Catchawave]

25. Cspan is covering naming a post office....errggghhhh! n/t

[Pirate Smile]

27. After he went after the other Congressman "Don't lecture me!"

Oh, no, it is Steve Buyer. A commercial for the WH.

[Pirate Smile]

28. Whoops - triple dupe.

[Pirate Smile]

29. Nevermind

[butchcjg]

80. Cool Brownie Tshirt

Buy it here! http://www.cafepress.com/butchcjg/785123

[blogslut]

2. bipartisan outrage?

From what bit's I'm seeing, Drownie is pissing all of them off!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

5. Here's the link for C-Span radio

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR

[merbex]

7. He is so angry at Shay's he appears to be shaking

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. How are you viewing it? I can't get CBS feed and am listening now

on C-Span radio.

[merbex]

19. it was on briefly on CNN

[onenote]

10. why Pelosi's move was the right move

If there were lots of Dems there, the Repugs would've been able to lay back and after the hearing the spin would be "those mean Dems" using the hearing for "partisan purposes". Instead, the Repugs are forced to attack Brownie for fear of looking like they are trying a whitewash. Meanwhile, the Dems arrange for two members with a direct interest -- Taylor of Mississippi and Jefferson of Louisiana -- to be there to express justified righteous indignation.

I think it was definitely the right move. Kills the chance for the admin and friends to spin this one.

onenote

[demo dutch]

12. You have a point!

[VolcanoJen]

17. I agree. This hearing is going to backfire on BushCo big time.

You just know they're going to pick out Drownie's most contentious, arrogant statements for tonight's nightly network news!

Also, he's being roughed up not just by the two Dems, but by a few of the Republicans, like Rep. Shays.

Good call, Pelosi. I wasn't sure at first, but now I am.

[xultar]

21. Agreed. Score one for Pelosi!

[Oreo]

22. Agreed

He's only digging a deeper grave... and it's all under oath.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. totally disagree. This is one=sided propaganda to the hilt.

I totally and utterly understand why Pelosi did what she did. But this is totally and utterly crazy to allow for this mostly unchallenged crap. She needs to reconsider. We can be there and respectfully ask questions, with facts. Shit 81% of the people think he's full of shit. No one will think there is political motivation by us, if we stay cool and collected and use the facts.

[xultar]

37. Nope. Know which battles to fight and which to let others fight.

Everything drownie is saying is on the record. Not to mention this is a prime time full time but kicking by his own party. No Dems really taking up time making it look like an all Dem frontline attack.

Pelosi played it right. Plus we'll still get our independent hearing. In the meantime Drownie looks like a grade A sleeze ball.

[RSchewe]

71. Sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. The way the committee was...

set up, there was no equal power on both sides. The Dems had nothing to gain from being on the handicapped side of a debate. She is 100% right. Stick it out and force the issue of the Independent commission.

The Republicans cannot win this investigating themselves. Everyone knows that these Republican led investigations are a farce. It will only make them look worse. I am glad they are going ahead with it.

[bee]

32. great point. I hadnt thought of it that way.

And the (R)'s are dropping the hammer a lot harder then I expected.
I love it. :popcorn:

[myrna minx]

99. I agree with you. n/t

[xultar]

14. Skidmore please paste this link in your OP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4901675&mesg_id=4901675

[Skidmore]

24. Thanks, xultar.

Where'd you get your name?

[xultar]

31. No, thank you. I wanna read these threads again in detail cuz I

can't stream @ my client site. Hopefully they will replay the hearings tonite and I can reread the threads while watching the replay.

I got the name from a DJ in Chicago.

[merbex]

16. Shays is relentless;you saw a void filled with liability and just let it

exist

[rodeodance]

50. that was a good one from Shays!!

[OneGrassRoot]

18. WTF?

Please let us know when/if anyone mentions that he had to learn about the Convention Center fiasco from the friggin media.

This is THE MOST UNFRIGGINBELIEVABLE roadshow of this UNFRIGGINBELIEVABLE administration.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Actually, earlier I think he reneged on that - or at least said he

mispoke and found out about it earlier than he orginally said. Can't wait to see the whole thing re-run on C-SPAN

[ncrainbowgrrl]

36. it's still going on?!

Yay!
I thought for sure when I had to run to a meeting about an hour ago, I'd miss the end of this hearing... :bounce: Glad I didn't!

[VolcanoJen]

30. CNN: Mayor Nagin on.... said "I feel sorry for Drownie."

Excellent.... Blanco and Nagin are already going on the defense, and they're taking an opportunity to correct Drownie's false statements.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

I hope someone gets it on video. I can't watch CNN now. nt

[OneGrassRoot]

43. It's about time! Did Nagin really say "Drownie?" lol n/t

[VolcanoJen]

62. No, he called him "Mr. Brown."

I just took a little editorial license. }(

[Sydnie]

44. NO Police Superintendent just resigned? n/t

[xultar]

51. The cops looting story is about to get some serious legs. I talked to my

Ex who is in NOLA. House an kitties are o.k. But the situation with the cops looting is gonna go big because the residents who stayed are talking. It doesn't really matter. NOLA cops were pretty bad anywaze. They were investigated by the FBI not to long ago for some serious stuff.

[moobu2]

34. I just got home and found out about this. Has

Brown testilying gone well for the Bush administration or no?

[Spazito]

40. It has been a disaster for the bush admin, imo!

'Brownie' has proven beyond any and all doubt that he is: clueless, arrogant, immature, lethally incompetent and is still being paid 146 THOUSAND dollars by the bush admin.

He is being hammered by the repubs and they haven't been kind to the bush admin either.

[Rick Myers]

42. A BIG NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's been a stubborn. pompous asshat!!! And it's all 'R's asking the questions!!!

[political_invader]

48. A BIG NO is a understatement ROFLMAO

Drownie is clearly showing his incompetence.

[Oreo]

35. Freepers already attacking Shays on congress.org

God these people are idiots.

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?id=692&letter_id=480730646
FEMa
To:
Rep. Christopher Shays

September 27, 2005

PLease learn how FEMA works before you start asking idiotic questions. You are an embarrassment to the Republican party. I have been a staunch republican for 46 years, but the bunch of you up there now, I may have to rethink things. as General Honore would say Don't get stuck on stupid.

Louisville , KY

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?id=692&letter_id=480713066&content_dir=y
Subject:
shame on u

To:
Rep. Christopher Shays

September 27, 2005

you are the poster child for everything wrtong with this great country.... You make me sick by your condemnation of Brown and FEMA... You should be kicked out of office on your ass... You are not seeking the truth about anything. You don't listen before you speak so that makes you a second rate fool

san diego , CA

[Marie26]

41. Who's speaking now? (eom)

[Spazito]

53. I think it is Boyers (sp) but don't quote me, lol

[merbex]

38. The question is better left to the Gov and Mayor

He is horrifying the panel

You can just tell

[Marie26]

46. Dead silence

Yeah, there's just a dead silence after that. Then the Congressman slowly says - "I don't think... you can say that."

[merbex]

56. He really thinks he is above these questions

His arrogance is literally breathtaking

They haven't seen a witness like this in decades

[Pirate Smile]

96. What was the question? I was away from my computer for a few

minutes.

[speedoo]

84. What was the question? Who asked it?

Thanks!!

[political_invader]

39. who is asking questions now?

took me forever to connect to a link.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. I believe it's a Republican from Indiana. He's being tough too.

I wonder if they are fighting here for their re-election???

[Skidmore]

60. Some things are just indefensible.

Maybe they've found a way to quit covering for *. Let's hope so.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

From your fingers to the Universe's eyes! eom

[coyote]

45. Anybody have a live video link? N/T

[ncrainbowgrrl]

54. Cbsnews

www.cbsnews.com

[coyote]

64. got it thanks

[chalky]

47. "I wish I could find a record of those emails..."

Darn, I had them right here! They showed how much we tried! We really, really tried! :sarcasm:

[political_invader]

59. Are these Emails public record?

[chalky]

67. I suspect those emails are "vapor" record.

n/t

[Oreo]

52. Brown just said FEMA convinced Blanco to open contraflow.

This guy is going to need a miner's light soon he's digging such a big hole

Now he's talking about their dress code being important.

[xultar]

58. Yup cuz based on Houston, they asked for Contra Flow that Thursday

morning and didn't get it until late in the evening. I think the NTSB is involved with contraflow as well.

He's hanging himself.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

69. ohhh... that's what the tank top conversation was about!

I tuned in just as that was starting, and didn't quite get what was happening.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

55. Live link back up on cbs.com

[coyote]

61. do you have the link...don't find it N/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

70. Coyote -- Here's the link

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. Thank you! Reconnected! eom

[The Witch]

57. I just missed 20 minutes

reading to catch up. Anything explosive since "you should come sit in this chair"?

[xultar]

65. When is the replay of this masterpiece. I gotta see it with my own eyes!

:crazy:

[VolcanoJen]

87. C-SPAN promised it later tonight.

They said they would show the hearing in its entirety this evening... I have no idea what time, unfortunately.

[Marie26]

68. I can't believe how patronizing he's being - to Rep. Congressmen no less!

[merbex]

72. Can you imagine what it was like dealing with this shithead

during the actual crisis??

The Gov and Mayor deserve a fucking medal for putting up with this pompous ass AND dealing with Hurricane and aftermath

[coyote]

76. Unfuckinbelievable

my mouth is on the floor. a ham sandwich has more competence than this guy.

[merbex]

74. He needs a list from ? Why didn't HE take notes while TALKING to the MAYOR

unfuckingbelievable

[ncrainbowgrrl]

77. I guess the pens didn't work without the copy machines, eh?

:evilgrin:

[Sydnie]

79. because then he would have to actually follow up on something

He didn't follow up on anything it appears.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

75. "No, he just gave me the list."

:eyes:

[CabalPowered]

78. Did anyone catch something about top secret files

Right before the discussion on weapons caches.. anyone? I only heard it in passing...

[Sydnie]

82. Yes, he was asked if any top secret information was lost

replied he hadn't heard of any.

[CabalPowered]

92. thank you

[The Witch]

81. Who's this shill

:puke:

[merbex]

83. Oh,now the PEOPLE FAIL TO REMEMBER

that the Coast Guard responded within hours

FEMA isn't the Coast Guard

Where was FEMA?

[Marie26]

93. Brown - "Preparedness is the key"

Not referring to FEMA, of course. People & hospitals should have PREPARED for a disaster; they should've had fuel & food for a disaster! Brown seems to think FEMA has no responsibility at all for emergency preparedness. Then when someone asks him about failures - he's all "but it was a disaster! How can a disaster agency prepare for that??"

[Marie26]

94. Sorry, double post

[Sydnie]

85. We haven't forgotten it was catastophic you ass hat

We watched it on tv. We saw what you didn't see for days and days. Just like you won't let us forget 9/11 ... we will NEVER let you forget NOLA!

[The Witch]

86. Taylor speaks up

"You did a very, very poor job."

Truth to shitheads, erm, I mean power.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

97. Awwww c'mon Brownie thought he did a good job except for a couple

of things. I guess it's a matter of perception, and his perception is for shit.

[political_invader]

88. From what I have seen Congress is doing a fine job both sides of the aisle

The questions asked have been for the most part are the right ones. I just don't understand why Drownie doesn't have the the documents he needs to back up his testimony.

[xultar]

95. I'm sure he thought or was told they would go easy on him since

no Dems would be in the hearing.

[Sydnie]

89. Didn't he say before that giving them fuel before would do no good

because it would get washed away?

Can't have it both ways dirtball!

[Sydnie]

90. Didn't he say before that giving them fuel before would do no good

because it would get washed away?

Can't have it both ways dirtball!

[doublethink]

91. IT'S BACK ON CSPAN NOW !!!!! Live ..... n/t

[Oreo]

100. Thanks

it's much more enjoyable to see this weasel squirm and to know who's asking the questions.

[merbex]

98. Please, "all the good things you've done in your carreer?"

are undone by this?

His career was pretty thin to begin with

[ncrainbowgrrl]

101. Locking- Time for thread #7

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