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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:39 PM
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Brownie hearing official thread #7
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:40 PM
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1. Thanks so much for providing these threads
:yourock:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:44 PM
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8. I concur!!
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 02:44 PM by VolcanoJen
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:49 PM
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13. you're welcome- glad to help! :)
this has been quite the fun hearing!
:popcorn:

:hi:
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:40 PM
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2. Oh, NOW he gives a rat's ass about tracking expenditures??!!?
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 02:41 PM by chalky
He's worried about tracking the pente-ante $2000.00 expenditures, huh?
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:44 PM
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7. Oh, so a "couple" of ice trucks were "commandeered", huh?
Lying sack of shit.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:45 PM
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9. Yeah, then sent to Maine n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:46 PM
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10. LOL, it must have been those trucks that went to Maine!
I just never knew hijackers paid the drivers and owners to sit there as well! Man, his lies are beyond laughable.
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butchcjg Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:41 PM
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3. Cool Brownie Tshirt
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:41 PM
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4. It's Back up again on CSPAN Live Now !!!!!
just for the heads up. :)
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:42 PM
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5. Here's the link
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:44 PM
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Thanks; CBS feed wasn't working for me!
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:44 PM
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Brownie's getting a little raspy. (n/t)
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:55 PM
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19. "I could use a break!"
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:44 PM
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6. I can only imagine what the Dems would have asked - even the Repugs
are making this hearing resemble shooting fish in a barrel

Pelosi made the right call
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:47 PM
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11. There is no logic to his testimony - he is an idiot
the better we respond to a natural disaster the better we will respond to a terrorist atteck

THAT IS WHAT FRIGHTENS US

YOU ARE CLUELESS so say I, so says Rep. Shays
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:49 PM
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12. "maybe we need to make a relook at that"
holy cripes, he's even starting to talk like * ...

:argh:

:kick:
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:56 PM
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20. Well the hearing has cleared up WHY Brownie got his job.
He is dumber than the prez and that has got to make Commander Über Loon happy.

Brownie can't keep his lies straight, his excuses untangled, his finger pointing in line, he misspeaks, mumbles, and is making a "hugh" ass of himself. Übie loves Brownie for making him look like a mental dot rather than a speck. Good boy, Brownie, good boy.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:57 PM
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22. Oh yeah.
well said.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:52 PM
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14. Seems to me this Brownie appearance is a disaster for the Coward.
Not just how incompetent he is personally.

But he is also talking about huge funding problems and FEMA being stripped down by the Coward.

Also he has talked about his contacting Chertoff, Card and the Coward long before Chertoff and co. have let on. He has contradicted statements by Chertoff and the Coward like "we could not have anticipated blah blah.

Am I wrong?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:54 PM
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15. No, I think you are right on target.
He will be cashing his last federal paycheck VERY soon, me thinks.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:54 PM
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16. Well, let's put it this way, Rove's kidney stones were a piece of
cake compared to the pain this must be causing him, roflmao!
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:55 PM
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17. Nice to see (R) house members praising Clinton's FEMA.
Makes this hearing even more enjoyable.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:03 PM
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24. He's a loose cannon
He's breathtaking in his arrogant incompetence - beyond belief. He's no even aware of his own incompetence, it seems. I can't think of a worse person to work for -- totally tone-deaf. He's as bad as Bolton ... maybe worse, if that's even conceivable.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:55 PM
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18. What I wish someone would ask
if they have not already. We were going under colored alerts every few days for several years with the W.H. scaring the bejeezuz out of everyone, what was FEMA doing to prepare for a catastrophic attack? IOW, why are we NOT prepared for something of this magnitude four years later?
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:57 PM
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21. C-span radio: took a break, replaying Slaughter kicking ass
:P
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political_invader Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 02:57 PM
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23. Will Jerk off be testifing to congress aswell?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:06 PM
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25. Let's hear Brown lay some turds at the feet of Chertoff, first.
There's no question that Chertoff interfered and added to the monstrous clusterfuck that was FEMA's "response" to Katrina. Brown is blaming anyone in sight, at this point, since he's completely beyond any approximation of competent.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:07 PM
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26. Oooh, Pickering not a happy camper...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:10 PM
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27. He's showing them up
because FEMA messed up the private volunteers with relief.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:10 PM
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28. "If the president is watching..."
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:11 PM
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29. If there's any sanity in MS, they'll hand him his walking papers in 2006.
While it's really impossible to underestimate the intelligence of the majority of Mississippi voters, it really strains imagination to think Republican incumbants are 'safe' in LA or MS next year.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:11 PM
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30. "Don't want boots or underwear when what we needs are double A batteries"?
Jeeeezus, what an ass.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:13 PM
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31. "if you watch what Jeb Bush does in Florida"- re: fuel
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:14 PM
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32. Watch what "Jeb" does if you want to know what to do!!!
unreal
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:18 PM
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35. He's reminding these Congresscritters that he's a "made man" ...
... in the Bushoilini Mafia. It's not "Governor Bush" - it's "Jeb." This guy is the epitome of Organized Crime Family behavior.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:21 PM
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39. Well put T.N.
He made sure at one point to say "jeb" to remind them that he's a "made man" as you say. Almost a threat.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:37 PM
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62. Yeah, look at how Jeb does it because he made me look good
but people in Florida are still in "temp housing", aren't they Brownie?
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:15 PM
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75. you mean like this?
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Sept05/Leopold0910.htm

Michael Brown, the embattled head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, approved payments in excess of $31 million in taxpayer money to thousands of Florida residents who were unaffected by Hurricane Frances and three other hurricanes last year in an effort to help President Bush win a majority of votes in that state during his reelection campaign, according to published reports.

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 05:16 PM
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84. yeah, exactly like that
and it never gets much press that some of the poorer people are now getting bills from FEMA, saying they were over compensated.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:17 PM
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33. I guess he means those tankers that had the WRONG NOZZLE SIZE?
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 03:17 PM by chalky
Is THAT what he's praising here?
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:17 PM
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34. And Mr.Taylor gets one last jab!
Sweet.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:20 PM
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37. "Disaster victims tend to move quickly."
:rofl:
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:21 PM
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41. Moved quickly from one curb at the Superdome to another.
n/t
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:19 PM
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36. One more reaming by Taylor coming up.
Now Brownie is saying there was no infrastructure in MS, therefore communications were not necessary. WTF???

Has this idiot said anything today that makes sense?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:23 PM
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44. No
Why does he keep repeating "we can't do it all the same time". Taylor's just asking about why FEMA sent brochures w/phone numbers to an area w/o power. What does that have to do with anything else? He keeps spinning off the topic because he doesn't have an answer.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:25 PM
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47. One more jab from Pickering too...
Bipartisan jabbing. I like it. :-)
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:20 PM
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38. "Congressman, you can laugh about it..."????
Oh, NO HE DI'INT.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:21 PM
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40. I'm Laughing.
OMG.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:29 PM
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51. He said this to whom?
context?? tell tell!
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:30 PM
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54. he said that to Taylor
re: how quickly the hurricane victims move.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:22 PM
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42. LOL, I loved the reminder of his 146 THOUSAND dollar consultant
paycheque! Taylor is awesome!
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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:23 PM
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43. No FEMA office yet in Iberia Parish
One month and counting.........
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:23 PM
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45. "Now if it didn't happen fast enough to satisfy YOU..."
My GOD this man is an ARROGANT ASS.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:26 PM
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49. "I RESENT the implication": FEMA wasn't doing their job
Just cause half the Mississipi victims still can't reach FEMA 28 days after the storm.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:25 PM
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46. Uh oh....he's falling back on the old Condi "I resent your implication"
defense.

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:26 PM
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50. "don't impugn my integrity"
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 03:35 PM by Sydnie
:rofl:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:30 PM
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53. If anyone could FIND his 'integrity' they'd have no trouble impugning it.
This cockroach wouldn't know 'integrity' if it flew up his ass.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:39 PM
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65. Hey now- don't be so mean to cockroaches.
After all, while they may be annoying, they have integrity.
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ender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:30 PM
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55. what effing integrity, horse-boy?
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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:25 PM
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48. Did he just say they have a FEMA call center in Puerto Rico?
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 03:27 PM by erinlough
Outsourcing Disaster help? Can you imagine that language barrier? This is just stupid.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:30 PM
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56. That was my thought when he said that!!
Outsourcing a FEMA call center!! And they do BACKGROUND checks there too??
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political_invader Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:30 PM
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52. Is it just me or has every time a Rep. starts to ask real questions
that Rep. Chip pickering(R) steps in and cools it off?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:32 PM
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58. That's a standard practice in committee hearings.
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 03:33 PM by TahitiNut
Davis and Pickering are both running interference for Brown. They've got entire sack-fulls of soft balls -- a corner on the Nerf market.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:36 PM
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61. Donno- Pickering's not being as partisan as normal...some zingers...
Perhaps someone's a little worried about being seen as being a little too close to the FEMA screw ups come next election cycle...
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:32 PM
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57. Perhaps the leadership involved should be trained BEFORE the disaster?
Gee, ya think, Brownie?

idiot.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:34 PM
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59. Replay of morning testimony on C-Span
in about 20 minutes!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:36 PM
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60. Well, that was satisfying.
I really didn't see any whitewashing. The Congress asked very tough questions & seemed uniformly pretty horrified by Brownie's answers. While it would be good if more Democrats were there, I really think the Republican members did a pretty good job of exposing Brown's ineptitude.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:37 PM
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63. Anyone watching Menendez (D) press conference on Cspan
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 03:38 PM by demo dutch
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:38 PM
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64. I am
Waiting for the "best of" clips to come up on C-SPAN. :evilgrin:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:51 PM
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66. "The Horse fellow."
That says it all. :rofl:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:52 PM
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67. C-SPAN airing part 1 again
:bounce:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:58 PM
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68. Jumping up and down with you! LOL
:bounce:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:59 PM
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69. Thread needs 3 more votes to get to greatest page please
for those that might have missed it today.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:01 PM
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70. Done - 'cuz this is makin' my workday ROCK!
;-)
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:05 PM
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71. Me too!
Though I think I should probably be fired for wasting all day listening to this thing. Oh well, I can multi-task.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:18 PM
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77. thanks! n/t
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:18 PM
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76. thanks! n/t
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:11 PM
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72. .......
:kick:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:11 PM
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73. Why the replay so effin early? I can't leave for another hour!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:13 PM
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74. I have the impression that it is just highlights for now.
The house is due back for votes by 6:30 eastern for any business from earlier today. Full replay should be much later.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:50 PM
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79. Thanks for the heads up! I feel much better. I'll have time to shower
break out the :popcorn: and jammies!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:50 PM
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78. right now Randi Rhodes is covering Drownie's testimony today and
clearly pointing out how he has perjured himself and consequently has implicated the President with dereliction of duty. She is really hammering it home. I just wrote and told her to get all of the evidence to Olbermann. Somebody's got to catch this liar out immediately on the television. I think KO is the only one with the set to do it. I fear the pirannha press has returned to being the poodle press again. We shall see.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:52 PM
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80. Rep. Jefferson introduced Gov. Blanco's request into record today and
talked about it. Brownie should be prosecuted for perjury, or unbelievable ignorance of what Blanco asked for in writing.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:54 PM
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81. It also leads straight to Bush no. The questioner from Iowa mentioned
that the President left out Orleans county in his directive to FEMA.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 05:00 PM
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83. Yes, directly to *. Blanco had all her i's dotted and t's crossed. nt
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 05:00 PM
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82. Seems the spinning machine has pined down the blame on Blanco
I heard a couple of people talking about this at the store. She didn't order evacuations on time...Who have you heard reporting this?
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 05:17 PM
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85. Wow, brownie did nothing wrong
All systems were working, they did all things right.
Mayors, govs and people who didn't evacuate and troublemakers were to blame.
Wow.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 05:28 PM
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86. Earlier ... Harold Rogers (R) Kentucky ....
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 05:31 PM by doublethink
made the point of stressing why N.O. wasn't evacuated like the prior Wednesday (aug 24) trying to stress the incompetence of the local officials. Fact: That Wednesday Katrina was just becoming a storm in the Bahamas. Then Rogers goes on to ask Brown if the local officials did anything Friday (aug 26th) to evacuate? Brown says not to his knowledge, again stressing as if the Local N.O. government were incompetent ..... Fact: That Friday (aug 26) Katrina was hitting south Florida as a Cat 1 hurricane, and no-one knew if it was going to grow or just where the f...k it was going to go. So this shifting blame of the evacuation b.s. of Brown and co. is more slight of hand trying to take the lack of FEMA response off subject.
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