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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:10 PM
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Is America ready for a female president?
With Commander-and-Chief premiering tonight, I had to ask this question.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:13 PM
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1. So did 50,000 billboard signs.
:D

America might be... for TV.

But REAL life? They're as thick as the fools who go to city town hall meetings and bitch about gov't wasteful spending while not knowing how much their elected officials "earn" and what they do to get more once they leave office...
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:15 PM
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2. Don't Know
But I can tell you this, had a woman been elected in 2000, we wouldn't have sent troops to Iraq. We would have sent them to Ivory Coast.


OK - we all know we went to Iraq for oil. But, Ivory Coast has chocolate and there was a civil war there last year threatening to interrupt their chocolate exports.

Of course, any Republican lady president would talk of the need to reduce our dependence on foreign chocolate.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:15 PM
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3. I think the more important ? is
Is America ready for a President that puts social needs above corporate desires?
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:20 PM
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5. You betca
nt
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:25 PM
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9. There you go...
...that's the crux of it right there. Environment, too.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:31 PM
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12. I would definitely put the environment
near the top of the list of social needs.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:45 PM
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21. Exactly...
...otherwise we're just sawing off the limb we're perched on.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:18 PM
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4. NO.
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 09:26 PM by Triana
Still run by and for men - still too many mysogenists. Women can't even get into a boardroom still (except to serve coffee). No way can one get into the White House. Karl Rove could possibly put enough lipstick on one of the Repig females and Diebold could rig the machines enough again to get one of those in there maybe. But that kind of women is worse for women than mysogenist men. And, that elephant would still be a pig.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:21 PM
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6. What year is it?
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:21 PM
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7. America Is Ready For An Intelligent President of Either Sex!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:23 PM
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:27 PM
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10. You're kidding, right? nt
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:54 PM
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28. I sure hope he's kidding!!! n/t
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:27 PM
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11. Or maybe
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 09:28 PM by Scooter24
a man starting a war because of his inflated ego, revenge, greed, or power trip?
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:38 PM
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16. Rats..My (so-called) friends, sitting here DARED me to post that.
..and of course, as soon as I hit the "post" button I knew my Ass was Grass.

Actually, I think Women would be much better at NOT fucking everything up....They couldn't do any worse than what we Men have done,...
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:42 PM
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18. I hear when he invaded Poland
Hitler had PMS AND THERE WAS NO CHOCOLATE! :-)
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:46 PM
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22. looks like your friends owe you a drink
:toast:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:34 PM
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13. Rather than pointing out how misogynistic and bigoted your reply is
I will simply ask if you prefer a mentally ill, drug addicted alcoholic to your stereotype of a woman?

It is simply astonishing that some nations which we consider less "advanced" than the US have or have had women as head of state & do not have the same racial & gender inequities that are found here.


Unbelievable.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:36 PM
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15. I told my RW mother she'll go to a nursing home the next time I PMS...
you could be right.

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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:40 PM
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17. Ooh baby
You had best amend that comment post haste to include the sarcasm dripping thingie.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:44 PM
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20. You know what (sadly) is very Telling??.......The fact that a large..
...share of the Female population would actually BELIEVE that Men could be that stupid (What I posted)..
..Now, I think about it...it's scary that they might be right!...Brrr..
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:48 PM
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38. I figured you were kidding
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 10:50 PM by indigo32
but go read some of the discussion forums set up for this show... and decide for yourself how much these people are playing or being serious. And think back for a minute about perceptions voiced everywhere about assorted first ladies (or potential first ladies) be they Dem or Repub.
I think we have some work to do.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:49 PM
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23. HAHAHA... I almost issued a "castration by keyboard."
I'm glad you were kidding. :-)
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:52 PM
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26. Most women would be post-menopausal by the time they
could be POTUS. So PMS would not be a factor.

Actually, PMS would not be a factor anyway. If a particular woman has a harmone cycle so bad that it made her unstable, she would not be able to be elected anyway. The instability would have limited that individual woman earlier.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:57 PM
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31. Plenty of women haven't hit menopause until in their fifties...
But if a woman had to take prescribed meds for the symptoms it would already be an indication of the strong severity. Thing is, would a man go under the same kind of scrutiny? Say they had depression or something else that would need medication.

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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:04 PM
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34. I think it would come out in a campaign.
Remember Tom Eagleton?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:29 PM
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36. Oh, yeah...forgot about him n/t
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:36 PM
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14. Is anyone expecting any man go get us out of the mess * has got us into?
Maybe there is a women who could actually come up with a new and real ideas because I really haven't seen much from men in the last 150 years.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:44 PM
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19. I am.
I'm ready for any capable, decent president that isn't a friggin' Bush.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:49 PM
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24. Can't speak for America
but this tired old man thinks it's overdue. I think we all know that sex is the least important qualification for choosing a public servant.

I want the person with the best background and skills to do the job.

I want the person who has the strength of conviction to present their ideas on their merit. Without the guidance of million dollar PR representation.

I want the person who can recognize talent and make the most of it.

I want a competent, honest, and functional government.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I want.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:51 PM
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25. I think so
Women senators and congresscritters get reelected at the same percentages that men do.

I don't think there's a big advantage today one over the other.

So how about some women running?

I think Hillary runs and easily wins the nomination. Good chance to win the presidency too.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:52 PM
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27. No, esp during wartime. Our society is still too sexist.
Just consider the disparities in pay and glass ceilings. Women are not considered equal.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:54 PM
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29. I think she would have to be a Republican.
Sort of like, "Only Nixon can go to China." Just like Margaret Thatcher was a British conservative.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:56 PM
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30. What? A girl president? Next thing you'll say is that women should
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 09:57 PM by brainshrub
be allowed to drive cars.

:rofl:
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:59 PM
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32. of course we are
there are no good reasons to not have a woman president ... any uproar over it is just made up, bluster and anger based on prejudice and ignorance.

If people would quit making such a damn big deal about it, it would happen sooner.

Stop asking if we're ready, and just do it. We're just as ready for our first woman president as were for our first man president.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:00 PM
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33. 40% of America supposedly believes the Bible's account of Creation
is LITERALLY TRUE.

To me, that means a good chunk of "America" isn't even ready for a brisk afternoon walk without a safety helmet.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:14 PM
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35. ((( YAWN )))...
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 10:25 PM by marions ghost
same old debate from 25 years ago, and I guess we'll be debating it 25 years from now... :boring:

Everybody can see that women CAN run things...DUH -- it's so obvious... but men don't want to let go of the power. The only way a woman can run for president is if American men are finally ready to let that happen. As for Hillary, the Right would be ecstatic if she got the nomination and then they'd proceed to crucify her to the bone. If you thought swiftboating was bad, you ain't seen nothin. The only woman who'd have a hope of being elected in the current climate would be some rightwing tool like Condi, and we don't want that I assume.

Things are so retrograde now that I don't even think our daughters will ever see a woman president in this country. Meanwhile this whole question "are we ready for a woman president" is getting so old it's just plain boring. I'm ready to give up on it and just settle for a man who has a clue about women.
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ridgerunner Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:44 PM
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37. I'd vote for Jocelyn Elders in a heartbeat
I've always liked her. She'd make a great president.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:53 PM
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39. Well, the real question is: Is Amerika ready for a female Emperor?
And since the Imperial Subjects of Amerika DO NOT select their Emperor, that decision rests with the Diebold-Bushevik Axis.

I don't see it happening for the same reasons a Negro will not be allowed, even as a placeholder between Bush Emperors (got to maintain the lie that Imperial Amerika is still free).

Because women, Jews and Negroes, while they can serve the Imperials, they can never truly BE Imperials.

The Bush Family is like the Mafia in this regard, as it is in so many regards.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:01 PM
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40. See The White House Project
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