Was accused of "outing" David Drier by liberal friends

[SCDem]

and was told it was in bad taste.

I sent this email back but still feel a bit stung by the harshness that was thrown at me. Feel like more effort is put on bellyaching about what fellow dems do then the trash legislation that is being freely presented and passed on the Hill.

What do you guys think?

Oh yeah here is the email I sent back:
I could care less if he is gay. But to be gay and then be very vocal about anti-gay rights because that is the base of your political party is hypocracy. That is why I do not like him and furthermore he was my Rep in CA for 12 years.
I was just giving out the info that was currently out.

But lucky for us an equally horrid republican, Roy Blunt, who by some accounts could be worse than Blunt.

GOP Whip Quietly Tried to Aid Big Donor
Provision Was Meant To Help Philip Morris
Wednesday, June 11, 2003; Page A01

Only hours after Rep. Roy Blunt was named to the House's third-highest leadership job in November, he surprised his fellow top Republicans by trying to quietly insert a provision benefiting Philip Morris USA into the 475-page bill creating a Department of Homeland Security, according to several people familiar with the effort.

The new majority whip, who has close personal and political ties to the company, instructed congressional aides to add the tobacco provision to the bill -- then within hours of a final House vote --even though no one else in leadership supported it or knew he was
trying to squeeze it in.

Once alerted to the provision, Speaker J. Dennis Hastert's chief of staff, Scott Palmer, quickly had it pulled out, said a senior GOP leader who requested anonymity. Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) also opposed what Blunt (Mo.) was trying to do, the member said, and "worked against it" when he learned of it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn ?
pagename=article&contentId=A41839-2003Jun10¬Found=true


Group labels Blunt corrupt

U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri's 7th District is being called one of the most corrupt members of Congress in a report released Monday.

The report criticized Blunt for what the group called the "misuse of his position for the benefit of his family."

http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=207129&c=...

Sorry to any I offended. But on the bright side now we have lovely Roy Blunt

[ourbluenation]

1. you didn't out him - the LA weekly did...eom

[SCDem]

2. Yes but by posting it on our liberal forum

I was attacked

I think I might just back out of the forum for a while.

[Rowdyboy]

5. That just makes no sense.....Do these people realize what Republicans

have been doing to us for the last 5 years? Hell, I read that Drier was gay quite awhile ago-this isn't news.

I think the people on this liberal board over-reacted badly.

[Carni]

16. If the man is gay and votes anti-gay what the hell are YOU outing?

That's not in bad taste...it's reality!

If the dumb son of a bitch wants to be gay that's his affair...but he had better not do it and be for anti-gay type legislation, or people should and are going to call him on it!

It's just that simple--he's a hypocrite!

Drier doesn't get a get out of jail free card just because he's gay pandering to an anti-gay party.

I don't think i would consider those tsk tsker's my friends in the future...they have no right to lecture you.

[Dulcinea]

22. If he's gay...

...that's his business. But if he's a hypocrite, then it becomes the business of his constituents.

[Ganja Ninja]

3. If you're gay and you support the GOP agenda against gays ...

then you're a hypocrite and you should be outed. I don't see the problem. If you want to support the institutionalized harassment and discrimination of a certain segment of society and you're a part of that segment then you shouldn't complain. If a black person supports slavery then then that person shouldn't have a problem when he's chained and put up for auction.

[Mend]

4. and if a woman who opposes choice gets an abortion

for herself or her kin, I will shout her name from the rooftop.

[SCDem]

6. I would too

but it is as if we can yell hypocracy in this matter - that is what I got out of the other posters angst with me.

[Ganja Ninja]

7. Damn right! n/t

[tomg]

8. There was an interesting discussion

on DU about this the other day that dealt with this in a theoretical was: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4905242

Originally, I was against me outing anyone. I'm straight and I felt yaddah yaddah. What surprised ( in a very cool way) was how many gay and lesbian Du ers said to do it. Still, check out the thread.

edit: typo

[jonnyblitz]

9. i don't understand why "liberals" are against outing hypocritics..

I am gay and I APPLAUD it. geesh. these closeted right wing gay assholes are HURTING us. they deserve more than just "outing" IMHO..

[Not Me]

11. WWRD?

What would Rove do?
You can bet your ass he would dig up and put out anything (true or otherwise) to damage an opponent.

In this case, the line has been drawn...your closet door is ripped open if you use your power and influence to continue second-class status on gay people.

I have absolutely no issue with it.

[jonnyblitz]

13. many on the left still take issue with it ....many straight folks.

:shrug:

[SCDem]

14. That is who responded to me - a straight person

and then she said someone gay in our local party (as if I didn't know who this someone is) said that he privately thanked her for her posting what she did. So then what am I supposed to do say that x, y, and z gay people think the same way I did which they do.... no because then it would look tacky and we are not supposed to talk aloud about homosexuality. How are Equal Rights supposed to be supported and taken seriously if even our side is afraid to talk about it.

[jonnyblitz]

20. I always find the "privately thanking me" thing to be bullshit...

for some reason. :shrug:

i understand what you mean though. I felt the same when criticizing the pope from a gay perspective and other gay DUers were coming to his defense. that was truly bizarre, to me, but it happens, the "licking the boot that kicks you" thing. :shrug:

[tanyev]

10. Well, it's not the liberals that need to know.

Tell all your fundie friends that he's gay. Urge them to express their outrage with phone calls and letter-writing campaigns.

[realFedUp]

15. at the least his constituents should know that he and his partner

have taken at the least 25 overseas trips on taxpayer
dole although Dreier is on no international or foreign
relations committee. They should know at the least
that Brad is David's chief of staff and has access
to many of the same Congressional documents that
David sees. They should know that Dreier doesn't vote
for the civil rights of the gay and lesbian community.
He may represent a conservative district, but not
telling his voters who he really is, is lying by
omission and the newspapers in his area cover it up.

This is a story

[0007]

12. Roy Blunt looks like he could be John Ashcroft's cousin,

or that swift boat liar's brother.

[gratuitous]

17. I would say . . .

It's not your fault that you're paying closer attention to what's going on than your friends are. Dreier's sexual orientation has been an open secret in political circles for years. You weren't sworn to secrecy on Dreier's behalf, and the story that he's gay has been in the public domain for years.

Tell your friends that you're sorry they haven't been very well informed, but that's the wonder of the internet: You can find out things you didn't know before.

Further, since the Republican caucus torpedoed Dreier for DeLay's position, are you seriously supposed to believe that they didn't know anything about Dreier's sexual orientation? You don't have to be insulting, but these Pollyannas could stand a little wake-up call, methinks.

[libnnc]

18. If he's gay and he's responsible for

hurtful legislation that directly affects my life and the life of my partner it's not "outing". It's a small taste of justice.

Personally, I think Drier should be tarred and feathered and run outta town backwards on an ass but I'm old fashioned that way. :D

[jonnyblitz]

23. i criticized gay, right wing. pope loving, blogger Andrew Sullivan

on here once and another gay DUer called me a homophobe(amusing since i am gay, too) and told me I should never criticize a fellow gay along with the straight folks no matter what his politics. :crazy:

[kestrel91316]

19. Dreier's "gayness" isn't the problem. His sexual PROMISCUITY and

HYPOCRICY are a problem.

He expended a great deal of energy trying to pick up a straight friend of mine recently who he (Dreier) thought was gay. At a Republican fundraiser, no less. So he apparently has a problem being faithful to his live-in boyfriend.

[NNN0LHI]

21. The habit of killing the messenger has gotten out of hand lately

Its like a new fad or something.

Don